On Lu, 12 iul 21, 06:08:27, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> That said, AFAIR it was never necessary to have a daemon like that in
> order for my user to wind up being a member of group video (and having
> access to the GPU via GLX), so for such a daemon to be necessary in
> order for my user to be a membe
On 2021-07-12 at 05:36, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Le 11/07/2021 à 20:25, The Wanderer a écrit :
>> Mere minutes after filing a bug report with the Mesa tracker, I thought
>> of something new (of course), and checked it.
>>
>> Sure enough: if I run vulkaninfo as root, it detects the GPU j
On 2021-07-12 at 03:49, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 11 iul 21, 14:25:31, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> The issue turns out to have been that /dev/dri/renderD128 is owned
>> by group render, and my user was not a member of that group. I
>> don't know of anything which should have told me that it nee
Le 11/07/2021 à 20:25, The Wanderer a écrit :
[...]cut
Mere minutes after filing a bug report with the Mesa tracker, I thought
of something new (of course), and checked it.
Sure enough: if I run vulkaninfo as root, it detects the GPU just fine.
The issue turns out to have been that /dev/dr
On Du, 11 iul 21, 14:25:31, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> The issue turns out to have been that /dev/dri/renderD128 is owned by
> group render, and my user was not a member of that group. I don't know
> of anything which should have told me that it needed to be.
As far as I understand, this should be t
On Du, 11 iul 21, 06:54:31, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-07-11 at 03:31, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > While your testing + stable as needed mix is pretty simple[1] the
> > reverse mix stable + select packages from testing requires adequate
> > pinning and can quickly become problematic for any
On 2021-07-11 at 13:20, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-07-10 at 17:36, idiotei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Le 10/07/2021 à 17:41, The Wanderer a écrit :
>>> That's excellent news; it means that, at least in principle, this
>>> can work in (relatively-)clean Debian as currently constituted.
>>> (It a
On 2021-07-10 at 17:36, idiotei...@gmail.com wrote:
> Le 10/07/2021 à 17:41, The Wanderer a écrit :
>
>> On 2021-07-10 at 07:43, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
>>> Hi, Debian unstable with bits of experimental here (because of the
>>> freeze I pull some newer packages from experimental). Same g
On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 9:53 AM Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE wrote:
> On Samstag, 10. Juli 2021 09:13:57 -04 Brian Thompson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 14:57 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > > This is not the point of the OP message, so let's not derail
> >
> > I apologize for accidentally d
On 2021-07-11 at 03:31, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 10 iul 21, 14:38:39, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2021-07-10 at 14:18, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>> It depends :)
>>>
>>> In my opinion I'd say the order from less to more dangerous
>>> would be:
>>>
>>> 1. stable + select packages from stable
On 2021-07-11 at 04:45, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
> On 10.07.2021 20:54, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> I had enough times when I couldn't launch X (at least not with any
>> acceleration at all, even 2D acceleration) because an updated
>> NVIDIA driver which was compatible with the new X or kernel
Le 11/07/2021 à 01:10, The Wanderer a écrit :
On 2021-07-10 at 19:08, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2021-07-10 at 17:36, idiotei...@gmail.com wrote:
There you go, some packages are at the same version in Testing and
Unstable, so you will see them in both.
(Just to confirm, are you the person wh
On 10.07.2021 20:54, The Wanderer wrote:
I had enough times when I couldn't launch X (at least not with any
acceleration at all, even 2D acceleration) because an updated NVIDIA
driver which was compatible with the new X or kernel version hadn't been
released yet, and enough troubles trying to swi
On Sb, 10 iul 21, 14:38:39, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-07-10 at 14:18, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > On Sb, 10 iul 21, 06:51:43, Brian Thompson wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 13:43 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi, Debian unstable with bits of experimental here
> >>
On 2021-07-10 at 21:30, Geoff wrote:
> The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> (Warning, this is fairly long, and the situation involved includes
>> a fair number of potentially-moving pieces.)
>>
>>
>> I've recently built a new computer, installed Debian, configured it
>> to largely match my previous setup,
The Wanderer wrote:
(Warning, this is fairly long, and the situation involved includes a
fair number of potentially-moving pieces.)
I've recently built a new computer, installed Debian, configured it to
largely match my previous setup, and migrated my data across.
Now, I'm trying to take advan
On 2021-07-10 at 19:08, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-07-10 at 17:36, idiotei...@gmail.com wrote:
>> There you go, some packages are at the same version in Testing and
>> Unstable, so you will see them in both.
>
> (Just to confirm, are you the person who responded above under the
> name Brian
On 2021-07-10 at 17:36, idiotei...@gmail.com wrote:
> Le 10/07/2021 à 17:41, The Wanderer a écrit :
>
>> On 2021-07-10 at 07:43, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
>>> Hi, Debian unstable with bits of experimental here (because of the
>>> freeze I pull some newer packages from experimental). Same gr
Le 10/07/2021 à 17:41, The Wanderer a écrit :
On 2021-07-10 at 07:43, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
Le 09/07/2021 à 23:44, The Wanderer a écrit :
(Warning, this is fairly long, and the situation involved includes
a fair number of potentially-moving pieces.)
I've recently built a new compu
On Sat 10 Jul 2021 at 13:48:12 -0500, Brian Thompson wrote:
> On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 21:18 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > Testing doesn't have any direct security support
>
> Is that 100% true? I was originally referring to
Almost, for most of the time and in normal circumstances.. It depen
On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 01:48:12PM -0500, Brian Thompson wrote:
> Thank you for the detailed response, Andrei.
>
> On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 21:18 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > Testing doesn't have any direct security support
>
> Is that 100% true? I was originally referring to
> http://securi
Thank you for the detailed response, Andrei.
On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 21:18 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Testing doesn't have any direct security support
Is that 100% true? I was originally referring to
http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/testing-security
when I was talking about
On Sat 10 Jul 2021 at 14:38:39 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> I'm a little surprised to see that you don't even mention the mix which
> I've been running for the last decade-plus: stable + testing, which
Most likely an oversight.
--
Brian.
On 2021-07-10 at 14:18, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 10 iul 21, 06:51:43, Brian Thompson wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 13:43 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Debian unstable with bits of experimental here
>>
>> Is it (usually) wise to intermix different suites?
>
> It de
On Sb, 10 iul 21, 06:51:43, Brian Thompson wrote:
> On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 13:43 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > Hi, Debian unstable with bits of experimental here
>
> Is it (usually) wise to intermix different suites?
It depends :)
In my opinion I'd say the order from less to more da
On 2021-07-10 at 11:14, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
> On 10.07.2021 02:44, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have experience with using Vulkan with AMD graphics on
>> vaguely current Debian, using an even vaguely recent GPU? (Where
>> "vaguely current Debian" means Debian testing more rece
On 2021-07-10 at 07:43, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Le 09/07/2021 à 23:44, The Wanderer a écrit :
>
>> (Warning, this is fairly long, and the situation involved includes
>> a fair number of potentially-moving pieces.)
>>
>>
>> I've recently built a new computer, installed Debian, configur
On 10.07.2021 02:44, The Wanderer wrote:
Does anyone have experience with using Vulkan with AMD graphics on
vaguely current Debian, using an even vaguely recent GPU? (Where
"vaguely current Debian" means Debian testing more recently than the
release of current stable, and a "vaguely recent GPU" m
On Samstag, 10. Juli 2021 09:13:57 -04 Brian Thompson wrote:
> On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 14:57 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > This is not the point of the OP message, so let's not derail
>
> I apologize for accidentally derailing. I should have started a new
> thread. I'm still relatively
Le 10/07/2021 à 15:13, Brian Thompson a écrit :
On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 14:57 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
This is not the point of the OP message, so let's not derail
I apologize for accidentally derailing. I should have started a new thread.
I'm still relatively new to the Debian c
On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 14:57 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> This is not the point of the OP message, so let's not derail
I apologize for accidentally derailing. I should have started a new thread.
I'm still relatively new to the Debian community.
--
Best regards,
Brian
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Le 10/07/2021 à 13:51, Brian Thompson a écrit :
On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 13:43 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi, Debian unstable with bits of experimental here
Is it (usually) wise to intermix different suites? I guess it wouldn't matter
that much for bits and pieces of experimental in
On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 13:43 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Hi, Debian unstable with bits of experimental here
Is it (usually) wise to intermix different suites? I guess it wouldn't matter
that much for bits and pieces of experimental in unstable since you are already
in agreeance with
Le 09/07/2021 à 23:44, The Wanderer a écrit :
(Warning, this is fairly long, and the situation involved includes a
fair number of potentially-moving pieces.)
I've recently built a new computer, installed Debian, configured it to
largely match my previous setup, and migrated my data across.
Now
(Warning, this is fairly long, and the situation involved includes a
fair number of potentially-moving pieces.)
I've recently built a new computer, installed Debian, configured it to
largely match my previous setup, and migrated my data across.
Now, I'm trying to take advantage of one of the har
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