On Saturday 16 January 2010 12:33:32 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> This has been solved by Ben Hutchings and was reported as
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=534324
>
> The solution was to put ums-cypress in /etc/initramfs/modules and rerun
> update-initramfs -u for that kernel. Linux
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Hi,
I have 2 internal ATA HDD's and 2 disks in external USB enclosures.
When you boot (this is Sid) the 2 USB disks report their presence
between the messages:
'Loading, please wait...'
and
'Init 2.86 booting'
in the very beginning of the boot process.
Now the funny p
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:53:55 -0600
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
...
> Have you tried pressing "H" for Help, on each feature or feature class? Note
> what help tells you. In many/most cases Help will assist you in figuring out
> whether you need a given feature or not.
Many - certainly. Most, perhaps
On Sun December 27 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> > I do have ecryptfs & a Private filesystem, but ecryptfs was under file
> > systems ( I think..) I did find that.
>
> Have you tried pressing "H" for Help, on each feature or feature class?
> Note what help tells you. In many/most cases Help will a
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/26/2009 5:32 AM:
> this DELL box is my first PC with SATA. When I opened it up a while back to
> add a 2nd HD, THAT is when I found out it was SATA, and my old drives
> wouldn't work! but I don't remember looking at the CDROM cables..
Sounds like the perfect time
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/26/2009 6:47 AM:
> On Fri December 25 2009, Celejar wrote:
>> Absolutely. I'm just warning you to be prepared for a lot of very
>> frustrating "why can't the kernel find my root filesystem?" and "why
>> has this piece of HW / SW suddenly stopped working".
>>
>
> ok
On Fri December 25 2009, Celejar wrote:
> Absolutely. I'm just warning you to be prepared for a lot of very
> frustrating "why can't the kernel find my root filesystem?" and "why
> has this piece of HW / SW suddenly stopped working".
yeah, found that one... something about can't boot from (0,0)..
On Sat December 26 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > kernel hacking??
>
> Various options that control the behavior of the kernel, for debugging,
> testing, troubleshooting, etc. You can generally ignore this section
> and turn things off, although there are some useful things there (Magic
> SysRq, various
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:47:10 -0500
Paul Cartwright wrote:
...
[Warning: I'm no expert, so take everything I write with a grain of
salt.]
> kernel hacking??
Various options that control the behavior of the kernel, for debugging,
testing, troubleshooting, etc. You can generally ignore this sect
On Fri December 25 2009, Celejar wrote:
> Absolutely. I'm just warning you to be prepared for a lot of very
> frustrating "why can't the kernel find my root filesystem?" and "why
> has this piece of HW / SW suddenly stopped working".
>
ok, so it gets deep in those menus...
network, device drivers
On Fri December 25 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> 18MB? Yikes! Am I reading that correctly? My latest custom kernel is:
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root src 1.5M Dec 8 13:29
> linux-image-2.6.31.1_custom.greer.sata.1.3_i386.deb
ok, so I go through and delete stuff ( make menuconfig). When I get to an
en
On Fri December 25 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18548960 2009-12-25 05:58
> > linux-image-2.6.31.9_custom.1.0_i386.deb
>
> 18MB? Yikes! Am I reading that correctly? My latest custom kernel is:
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root src 1.5M Dec 8 13:29
> linux-image-2.6.31.1_custom.g
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/25/2009 6:56 PM:
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18548960 2009-12-25 05:58
> linux-image-2.6.31.9_custom.1.0_i386.deb
18MB? Yikes! Am I reading that correctly? My latest custom kernel is:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root src 1.5M Dec 8 13:29
linux-image-2.6.31.1_custom.greer.sa
On Fri December 25 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > How about: build a kernel with everything as modules, boot it, look at
> > the output of lsmod, then build a kernel with (at least) those modules?
>
> Probably a good idea, but note that connecting kernel module names with
> the relevant kernel config opt
On Fri December 25 2009, Celejar wrote:
> Absolutely. I'm just warning you to be prepared for a lot of very
> frustrating "why can't the kernel find my root filesystem?" and "why
> has this piece of HW / SW suddenly stopped working".
right.. I get it..
>
> One thing I'd recommend, although I've
On Fri December 25 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> You've just passed the first milestone, and seem to be continuing down the
> right path in your kernel building journey. :)
after editing that file, and doing the steps, I now have my first custom
kernel:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18548960 2009-12-25
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:35:59 -0500
Tony Nelson wrote:
> On 09-12-25 09:04:42, Celejar wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:07:55 -0500
> ...
> > > this is the "learning" part.. knowing what you need, what you MIGHT
> > > need, and what you don't have to have to make it work..
> >
> > Absolutely.
On 09-12-25 09:04:42, Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:07:55 -0500
...
> > this is the "learning" part.. knowing what you need, what you MIGHT
> > need, and what you don't have to have to make it work..
>
> Absolutely. I'm just warning you to be prepared for a lot of very
> frustrating "w
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:07:55 -0500
Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Thu December 24 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > > relating to doing so. When compiling one's first custom kernel one
> > > should start with _ONLY_ the functionality one needs. Then build things
> > > up from there as you need more abiliti
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/25/2009 4:07 AM:
> this is the "learning" part.. knowing what you need, what you MIGHT need, and
> what you don't have to have to make it work..
You've just passed the first milestone, and seem to be continuing down the right
path in your kernel building journey.
On Thu December 24 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > relating to doing so. When compiling one's first custom kernel one
> > should start with _ONLY_ the functionality one needs. Then build things
> > up from there as you need more abilities from you kernel. ;)
>
> But I'd add that it's very easy to disabl
On Thu December 24 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> > make[1]: Leaving directory
> > `/home/pbc/Documents/software/linux-2.6.31.9/linux-2.6.31.9/Documentation
> >/lguest' make: *** [debian/stamp/build/kernel] Error 2
>
> http://cakebox.homeunix.net/wordpress/?p=100
THAT I can follow!
my googling didn'
On Thu December 24 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Remember what many of us have said: "Building a custom kernel is as much
> about learning as it is about accomplishing". Becoming proficient at
> building a custom kernel can take a while, sometimes months, sometimes
> years, depending on one's apti
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:53:31 -0600
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
...
> relating to doing so. When compiling one's first custom kernel one should
> start
> with _ONLY_ the functionality one needs. Then build things up from there as
> you
> need more abilities from you kernel. ;)
But I'd add that it's
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/24/2009 12:04 PM:
> On Tue December 22 2009, Celejar wrote:
>> Exactly. And you can turn off all the sound card and video drivers
>> except the one(s) you actually need, and the same for networking hw,
>> etc.
>
> so I was reading this:
> http://www.wowway.com/~zli
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/23/2009 7:47 PM:
> On Wed December 23 2009, Celejar wrote:
>> I'm not sure exactly what you've tried, but if you're building the
>> kernel itself from source, you shouldn't be installing any header
>> packages - they're only for when you need to build stuff against a
On Tue December 22 2009, Celejar wrote:
> Exactly. And you can turn off all the sound card and video drivers
> except the one(s) you actually need, and the same for networking hw,
> etc.
so I was reading this:
http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm
which is about the same..
I ran these comm
On Wed December 23 2009, Celejar wrote:
> I'm not sure exactly what you've tried, but if you're building the
> kernel itself from source, you shouldn't be installing any header
> packages - they're only for when you need to build stuff against a
> kernel for which you don't have the source.
I thin
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:18:44 -0500
Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Wed December 23 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> > Back in the day I was exclusively using Debian kernel sources. At one
> > point I wanted a newer kernel version than was available via the Debian
> > mirrors, so after reading in this do
On Wed December 23 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Back in the day I was exclusively using Debian kernel sources. At one
> point I wanted a newer kernel version than was available via the Debian
> mirrors, so after reading in this document that it was possible, I started
> getting my source from kern
On Wed December 23 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> I get my source from kernel.org also. But there are instructions in that
> document that tell you how to install from kernel.org sources "The Debian
> Way".
I see that, but I'm still having problems..
>
> Back in the day I was exclusively using Debi
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/23/2009 3:46 PM:
> On Wed December 23 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> Paul, have you read this yet? It will be very helpful.
>>
>> http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html
>
> I was doing it a different way, getting the kernel from kernel.org. Th
On Wed December 23 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Paul, have you read this yet? It will be very helpful.
>
> http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html
I was doing it a different way, getting the kernel from kernel.org. This looks
a little different.. I'll take a look, thanks!
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/22/2009 4:36 PM:
> On Tue December 22 2009, Celejar wrote:
>>> I think I have done this before, I think I tried it for a 64bit kernel,
>>> for my Duo-Core processor, but it didn't turn out well. Seems to me the
>>> "configure' part takes 2 days, or way too many optio
On Tuesday 22 December 2009 07:48:05 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Andrew Reid wrote:
> > It's likely the devices aren't being recognized in the initramfs --
> > possibly they require kernel modules which are not present by default.
>
> But I would think that to be the case of the custom kernel, not
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:38:12 -0500
Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Tue December 22 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > Unfortunately, there's no easy answer to this one. Read, read, read,
> > and learn from your mistakes (you *will* make them). To be safe,
> > always err on the side of caution and enable anyt
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:36:29 -0500
Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Tue December 22 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > > I think I have done this before, I think I tried it for a 64bit kernel,
> > > for my Duo-Core processor, but it didn't turn out well. Seems to me the
> > > "configure' part takes 2 days, or w
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:26:20 -0500
Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Tue December 22 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > Try 'make menuconfig', or copy over a config file from a running kernel
> > of the same version.
>
> I downloaded 2.6.32.2 from kernel.org
> config file from my kernel? 2.6.26.2 ?
> would tha
Check the apropriate config from
http://merkel.debian.org/~jurij/
before doing make menuconfig do:
make oldconfig
then
make menuconfig
And I suppose to use tool like make-kpkg
See for example:
http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/kernel2.6.htm
Robert.
Dne Út 22. prosince 2009 23:36:29 Paul Cartw
On Tue December 22 2009, Celejar wrote:
> Unfortunately, there's no easy answer to this one. Read, read, read,
> and learn from your mistakes (you *will* make them). To be safe,
> always err on the side of caution and enable anything not marked
> 'experimental' unless you're pretty sure that you
On Tue December 22 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > I think I have done this before, I think I tried it for a 64bit kernel,
> > for my Duo-Core processor, but it didn't turn out well. Seems to me the
> > "configure' part takes 2 days, or way too many options. I seem to
> > remember it asked whether i wante
On Tue December 22 2009, Celejar wrote:
> Try 'make menuconfig', or copy over a config file from a running kernel
> of the same version.
I downloaded 2.6.32.2 from kernel.org
config file from my kernel? 2.6.26.2 ?
would that work, and what is the config file?
--
Paul Cartwright
Registered Linux
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:46:27 -0500
Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Mon December 21 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > > Yes and no WRT flexibility. Yes because you an choose exactly what does
> > > and does not go into your kernel. No, because once it's built, if you
> > > want to add a new hardware device l
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:41:22 -0500
Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Mon December 21 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > 1) Faster booting, since irrelevant drivers aren't loaded and won't
> > spend time probing.
> just faster booting, or doesn't it also run faster, since it isn't loaded
> with
> a bunch of PO
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:36:42 -0500
Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Mon December 21 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > 2) From the appropriate directory, run make menuconfig (or xconfig or
> > whatever you prefer) and configure appropriately
>
> I think I have done this before, I think I tried it for a 64bit
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:02:53 -0600
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Celejar put forth on 12/21/2009 9:13 PM:
>
> > I run desktops / laptops, and I always build netfilter - I run
> > shorewall on all my boxes.
>
> For me, the firewall is always going to be upstream of desktops in a properly
> configured i
Andrew Reid wrote:
On Monday 21 December 2009 15:52:29 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Hi,
I have 2 internal ATA HDD's and 2 disks in external USB enclosures.
When you boot (this is Sid) the 2 USB disks report their presence
between the messages:
'Loading, please wait...'
and
'Init 2.86 booting'
in th
Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Mon December 21 2009, Celejar wrote:
2) From the appropriate directory, run make menuconfig (or xconfig or
whatever you prefer) and configure appropriately
I think I have done this before, I think I tried it for a 64bit kernel, for my
Duo-Core processor, but it did
On Mon December 21 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > Yes and no WRT flexibility. Yes because you an choose exactly what does
> > and does not go into your kernel. No, because once it's built, if you
> > want to add a new hardware device later, you might have to build a new
> > kernel. With the modular pr
On Mon December 21 2009, Celejar wrote:
> 1) Faster booting, since irrelevant drivers aren't loaded and won't
> spend time probing.
just faster booting, or doesn't it also run faster, since it isn't loaded with
a bunch of PORK?
>
> 2) Security - one of these null pointer dereferences that they
On Mon December 21 2009, Celejar wrote:
> 2) From the appropriate directory, run make menuconfig (or xconfig or
> whatever you prefer) and configure appropriately
I think I have done this before, I think I tried it for a 64bit kernel, for my
Duo-Core processor, but it didn't turn out well. Seems
Celejar put forth on 12/21/2009 9:13 PM:
> I run desktops / laptops, and I always build netfilter - I run
> shorewall on all my boxes.
For me, the firewall is always going to be upstream of desktops in a properly
configured infrastructure. WRT laptops, I guess it couldn't hurt to run a local
pac
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:50:15 -0600
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Celejar put forth on 12/21/2009 8:22 PM:
>
> > 1) Faster booting, since irrelevant drivers aren't loaded and won't
> > spend time probing.
>
> Correct. And not just drivers. Prebuilt kernels usually include netfilter
> support (for ip
Celejar put forth on 12/21/2009 8:22 PM:
> 1) Faster booting, since irrelevant drivers aren't loaded and won't
> spend time probing.
Correct. And not just drivers. Prebuilt kernels usually include netfilter
support (for iptables), which increases the size of the kernel substantially,
along wit
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:07:08 -0500
Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Mon December 21 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> > I do: stick with your homegrown kernel.
> >
> > (From the guy who only uses custom kernels)
>
> what would I gain from using a custom kernel, what would it take to
> make/install one,
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:07:08 -0500
Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Mon December 21 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> > I do: stick with your homegrown kernel.
> >
> > (From the guy who only uses custom kernels)
>
> what would I gain from using a custom kernel, what would it take to
> make/install one,
On Mon December 21 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> I do: stick with your homegrown kernel.
>
> (From the guy who only uses custom kernels)
what would I gain from using a custom kernel, what would it take to
make/install one, ( a how-to?).
for a "regular" desktop user, web, email... what advantage i
On Monday 21 December 2009 15:52:29 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have 2 internal ATA HDD's and 2 disks in external USB enclosures.
>
> When you boot (this is Sid) the 2 USB disks report their presence
> between the messages:
>
> 'Loading, please wait...'
> and
> 'Init 2.86 booting'
> in the v
Hugo Vanwoerkom put forth on 12/21/2009 2:52 PM:
> This isn't the first time I've asked this, but nobody seems to have an
> answer.
I do: stick with your homegrown kernel.
(From the guy who only uses custom kernels)
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Hi,
I have 2 internal ATA HDD's and 2 disks in external USB enclosures.
When you boot (this is Sid) the 2 USB disks report their presence
between the messages:
'Loading, please wait...'
and
'Init 2.86 booting'
in the very beginning of the boot process.
Now the funny part: in my homegrown ker
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