On Sun 24 Aug 2014 at 10:38:02 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> >On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 10:46:56 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> >[Snip}
> >
> >>What should I be reading to understand:
> >> 1. what would be minimal set of programs to install?
> >
> >"minimal" can mean different th
Brian wrote:
On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 10:46:56 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
[Snip}
What should I be reading to understand:
1. what would be minimal set of programs to install?
"minimal" can mean different things to different people and different
things to the same person at different times.
* THANK YOU *
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 10 aug 14, 10:46:56, Richard Owlett wrote:
My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up
Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment
Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally isolated from
i
*THANK YOU*
I spent several productive days reading. Following links to links
was good also.
Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Richard Owlett wrote:
My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up
Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment
Res
On Wed 13 Aug 2014 at 00:03:54 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> >
> > A "correctly" set up X on Debian uses ~/.xsession and not ~/.xinitrc.
> > (I kept the quotes because you said they are significant).
>
> Brian, I can't tell if you are joking or not. :-) But obviously a
> correctly
Bob Proulx writes:
> And so there is the explanation. If the .xinitrc script exits then
> that indicates to xinit that the user is done and that xinit should
> exit, ending the X windows session. Therefore we put the window
> manager at the end and run it in the foreground not the background.
Brian wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
> > It would more resemble "Who pulls which string when?"
> > In one iteration of my experiments I had been burned by not adding
> > "exec openbox" as last line of xinitrc.
The man page for xinit says:
An important point is that programs which are run b
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 12 Aug 2014 at 09:15:59 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Brian wrote:
> >
> > > xserver-xorg-core and xinit are insufficient by themselves. To
> > > have startx bring up X you need /usr/bin/X, which is in the
> > > xserver-xorg pa
On Tue 12 Aug 2014 at 09:15:59 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Brian wrote:
>
> > xserver-xorg-core and xinit are insufficient by themselves. To have
> > startx bring up X you need /usr/bin/X, which is in the xserver-xorg
> > package. But xserver-org depends on one of xserver-
On Sunday 10 August 2014 18:44:28 Steve Litt wrote:
> 1) Make yourself a network install boot disk.
His Linux computer has no Internet connection.
Lisi
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 11 Aug 2014 at 18:47:40 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > > On Du, 10 aug 14, 17:30:20, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > >
> > > > III. INSTALL X
> > > >
> > > > A. Quick & Dirty, but bloated: 'apt
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 11 aug 14, 18:47:40, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > IIRC, the base install (terminal only) installed the default video
> > driver for my nVidia-based card -- nouveau. That was before I did
>
> There's a 'nouveau' kernel module and a 'nouveau' X
On Mon 11 Aug 2014 at 18:47:40 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > On Du, 10 aug 14, 17:30:20, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > > III. INSTALL X
> > >
> > > A. Quick & Dirty, but bloated: 'apt-get install xorg'
> > > B. Lean & Mean: 'apt-get instal
On Lu, 11 aug 14, 18:47:40, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> IIRC, the base install (terminal only) installed the default video
> driver for my nVidia-based card -- nouveau. That was before I did
There's a 'nouveau' kernel module and a 'nouveau' X driver, installed
with package xserver-xorg-video-nouv
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 10 aug 14, 17:30:20, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > I'm posting to the list instead of privately sending it to you, so
> > others can comment or correct errors.
>
> You asked for it :p
>
> > III. INSTALL X
> >
> > A. Quick & Dirty, but bl
On Du, 10 aug 14, 10:46:56, Richard Owlett wrote:
> My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up
> Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment
> Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally isolated from
> internet ;)
...
> What should I
On Du, 10 aug 14, 17:30:20, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> I'm posting to the list instead of privately sending it to you, so
> others can comment or correct errors.
You asked for it :p
> III. INSTALL X
>
> A. Quick & Dirty, but bloated: 'apt-get install xorg'
> B. Lean & Mean: 'apt-g
On Mon 11 Aug 2014 at 09:29:33 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> It would more resemble "Who pulls which string when?"
> In one iteration of my experiments I had been burned by not adding
> "exec openbox" as last line of xinitrc. What other scripts are run
> at boot that would affect whether Openbox
Thank you. I'll respond to a few points now, the rest of your
post requires some thought and experimentation.
Joe wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:46:56 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
[snip]
What should I be reading to understand:
1. what would be minimal set of programs to install?
It depe
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Richard Owlett wrote:
> My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up
> Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment
> Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally
> isolated from internet ;)
>
> History:
> When initi
On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 20:39:06 +0100, Brian wrote:
> First on the reading list is tasksel(8). Then the output of
>
>tasksel -t --task-packages standard | less
>
> on an existing Wheezy. The displayed list has a few mentions of exim. On
Without the standard system utilities having been asked
On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 18:03:07 +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:46:56 -0500
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> > What should I be reading to understand:
> >1. what would be minimal set of programs to install?
>
> It depends how enthusiastic you are. I tend to make a netinstall of
> stabl
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:46:56 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up
> Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment
> Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally
> isolated from internet ;)
>
> Histor
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:46:56 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up
> Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment
> Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally
> isolated from internet ;)
>
> Histor
On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 10:46:56 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
[Snip}
> What should I be reading to understand:
> 1. what would be minimal set of programs to install?
"minimal" can mean different things to different people and different
things to the same person at different times. Narrowing down
My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up
Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment
Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally
isolated from internet ;)
History:
When initially moving from Windows to Debian, installed Squeeze
w
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