[OT] Shibboleths [WAS] Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-06 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:34:30 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/04/07 16:15, Kent West wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Blatant disregard of reality is a bright, shiny shibboleth that you > >> are a student. > > > > Don't be

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-05 Thread blues
On Sep 5, 6:00 pm, blues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 4, 10:40 pm, icelinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. > > > In an odd paradox, we can never get rid of copyrights or licenses because > > then we could not require those com

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-05 Thread blues
On Sep 4, 10:40 pm, icelinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. > > In an odd paradox, we can never get rid of copyrights or licenses because > then we could not require those companies or persons who sell open source > software to make the

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread icelinux
> Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. In an odd paradox, we can never get rid of copyrights or licenses because then we could not require those companies or persons who sell open source software to make the source code available. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread icelinux
> Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. Maybe, not definately. Money still runs the world, and can often get more done. We still have copyrights and patents, so what value is it ever going to be to a company to give away their trade secrets that they are making millions

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 21:19, blues wrote: > On Sep 4, 7:30 pm, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 09/04/07 17:28, icelinux wrote: > I would suggest a degree in something computer network related and some certifications. If you look through th

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread blues
On Sep 4, 7:30 pm, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/04/07 17:28, icelinux wrote: > > >>> i like the idea of using free software to monitor and protect > >>> a network, and I hope to make a career out of it...does > >>> anyone have an

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 17:28, icelinux wrote: >>> i like the idea of using free software to monitor and protect >>> a network, and I hope to make a career out of it...does >>> anyone have any tips as to what i should concentrate on? > > I would suggest a degree

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 17:50, blues wrote: > On Sep 4, 5:10 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> On Sep 4, 12:30 am, Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. >>> Firs

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread blues
On Sep 4, 5:10 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 4, 12:30 am, Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. > > > First step will be to use Linux full time as your main system. I recently > > started usi

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread icelinux
> > i like the idea of using free software to monitor and protect a > > network, and I hope to make a career out of it...does anyone have > > any tips as to what i should concentrate on? I would suggest a degree in something computer network related and some certifications. If you look through t

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a pure learning experience there is gentoo (vaguely debian-like) or Linux From Scratch. If you fight your way through one of those installs you will know a lot of the tearful side of Linux. They don't hide the details, they glory in the low level nuts and bolts. I'

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sep 4, 12:30 am, Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. > > First step will be to use Linux full time as your main system. I recently > started using Debian Etch full time and I have definitely learned so much > more. > There

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
Kent West wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Blatant disregard of reality is a bright, shiny shibboleth that you are a student. Don't believe I've ever heard the term used that way before. I rather like it. But I suspect few today would know the etymology. But just doing a google, I find it's not an

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 16:38, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 09/04/07 13:36, blues wrote: >> [snip] >>> I appreciate all of the advice...It was way more than I ever expected, >>> but then a

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 16:00, Andrew J. Barr wrote: > On 9/4/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Proper usage of grammar in your native language is a sign of >> intelligence. We value intelligence. > > We also value common courtesy and humility, or at

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 13:36, blues wrote: [snip] I appreciate all of the advice...It was way more than I ever expected, but then again, that is what makes the linux community so unique. As for my questioning of MS, they do suck... Blatan

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 16:15, Kent West wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> Blatant disregard of reality is a bright, shiny shibboleth that you >> are a student. > > Don't believe I've ever heard the term used that way before. I rather > like it. But I suspect few to

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: Blatant disregard of reality is a bright, shiny shibboleth that you are a student. Don't believe I've ever heard the term used that way before. I rather like it. But I suspect few today would know the etymology. But just doing a google, I find it's not an uncommon use of t

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Andrew J. Barr
On 9/4/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proper usage of grammar in your native language is a sign of > intelligence. We value intelligence. We also value common courtesy and humility, or at least we should. Don't be a jerk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 13:36, blues wrote: [snip] > > I appreciate all of the advice...It was way more than I ever expected, > but then again, that is what makes the linux community so unique. As > for my questioning of MS, they do suck... Blatant disregard of

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread blues
On Sep 4, 6:50 am, "G.W. Haywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 blues wrote: > > > I would really love to become a good sys admin; linux is very > > interesting to me as a popular alternative to the crap business > > model of MS. > > Whatever you think about the

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 blues wrote: > I would really love to become a good sys admin; linux is very > interesting to me as a popular alternative to the crap business > model of MS. Whatever you think about the way it does things, Microsoft is one of the most successful companies that t

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Bhasker C V
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 03:13 +, blues wrote: > I would really love to become a good sys admin; linux is very > interesting to me as a popular alternative to the crap business model > of MS.i like the idea of using free software to monitor and > protect a network, and I hope to make a career

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-03 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/03/07 22:13, blues wrote: > I would really love to become a good sys admin; linux is very > interesting to me as a popular alternative to the crap business model > of MS.i like the idea of using free software to monitor and > protect a netwo

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-03 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. First step will be to use Linux full time as your main system. I recently started using Debian Etch full time and I have definitely learned so much more. There is always something new that you will learn everyday. Next step would be to r

Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-03 Thread blues
I would really love to become a good sys admin; linux is very interesting to me as a popular alternative to the crap business model of MS.i like the idea of using free software to monitor and protect a network, and I hope to make a career out of it...does anyone have any tips as to what i shou