On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 01:14:30AM +, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 13 Feb 2011 at 20:00:10 -0500, Rob Owens wrote:
>
> > Thanks, I'll work on it tomorrow. If anybody has a time-saving
> > step-by-step tutorial, don't be shy...
>
> For my Radeon 9200:
>
> xrandr --addmode S-video 800x600
>
> xrand
On Sun 13 Feb 2011 at 20:00:10 -0500, Rob Owens wrote:
> Thanks, I'll work on it tomorrow. If anybody has a time-saving
> step-by-step tutorial, don't be shy...
For my Radeon 9200:
xrandr --addmode S-video 800x600
xrandr --output S-video --mode 800x600 --crtc 1
xvattr -a XV_CRTC -v 1
Does th
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:07:37AM +, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 13 Feb 2011 at 15:57:31 -0500, Rob Owens wrote:
>
> > I'm upgrading my MythTV systems and was wondering what the status is of
> > TV-out on Squeeze, using the nouveau driver. I've got a GeForce FX 5200
On Sun 13 Feb 2011 at 15:57:31 -0500, Rob Owens wrote:
> I'm upgrading my MythTV systems and was wondering what the status is of
> TV-out on Squeeze, using the nouveau driver. I've got a GeForce FX 5200
> outputting to a standard-definition television.
>
> I'll u
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:11:47PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2011-02-13 21:57 +0100, Rob Owens wrote:
>
> > I'm upgrading my MythTV systems and was wondering what the status is of
> > TV-out on Squeeze, using the nouveau driver. I've got a GeForce FX 5200
On 2011-02-13 21:57 +0100, Rob Owens wrote:
> I'm upgrading my MythTV systems and was wondering what the status is of
> TV-out on Squeeze, using the nouveau driver. I've got a GeForce FX 5200
> outputting to a standard-definition television.
The Nouveau wiki says "Done&q
I'm upgrading my MythTV systems and was wondering what the status is of
TV-out on Squeeze, using the nouveau driver. I've got a GeForce FX 5200
outputting to a standard-definition television.
I'll use the proprietary driver if I have to, but I'd like to give the
free
hello,
i tried to get the tv-out working for my radeon X1550 64-bit graphics
controller, but so far i failed.
xrandr lists the S-video output and even detects it as connected when
X is started with the option ATOMTVOut set to true for the radeon video
driver. but i don't see anything on t
It's solved.
> I've restarted X (and the TV...)
... but I should have rebooted the computer before mailing... Now that
I've rebooted, everything works again (in that the image is black and
white :) ). What has changed that I can tell is that the output from
"xrandr --prop" now lists 30.0 next to
Hi,
I was trying to set up TV-out (S-video to SCART) on my laptop (Intel
GM965/GL960 and xserver-xorg-video-intel) using
xrandr --output TV --set TV_FORMAT PAL --mode 1024x768
and got sound ok and a clone of the laptop screen on the TV, but I
couldn't get any colours. Figuring there were
From what I remember old matrox cards are supposed to work fine, plus you can
even build a vga-to-scart connector, instructions floating in the web.
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On 02/27/2009 05:55 AM, Nigel Tamplin wrote:
Hello,
I'm going to add a cheap graphics card (with S-Video TV out) to an old
PC so that I can display the PC's output on an old(ish) TV.
I have a cable to connect the S-Video connector on the graphics card to
the TV. I just need th
Nigel Tamplin wrote:
Hello,
I'm going to add a cheap graphics card (with S-Video TV out) to an old
PC so that I can display the PC's output on an old(ish) TV.
I have a cable to connect the S-Video connector on the graphics card to
the TV. I just need the graphics card.
The
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Nigel Tamplin wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm going to add a cheap graphics card (with S-Video TV out) to an old PC so
> that I can display the PC's output on an old(ish) TV.
>
> I have a cable to connect the S-Video connector on the graphi
Nigel Tamplin wrote:
Hello,
I'm going to add a cheap graphics card (with S-Video TV out) to an old
PC so that I can display the PC's output on an old(ish) TV.
I have a cable to connect the S-Video connector on the graphics card to
the TV. I just need the graphics card.
The
Hello,
I'm going to add a cheap graphics card (with S-Video TV out) to an old
PC so that I can display the PC's output on an old(ish) TV.
I have a cable to connect the S-Video connector on the graphics card to
the TV. I just need the graphics card.
The TV is wide screen, CRT, 5
Florian Kulzer on 30/04/07 20:59, wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 20:33:27 +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
Don Hayward on 26/04/07 16:25, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Adam Hardy wrote:
I've got a hot nvidia 7950GT GPU which is supported by nvidia's latest
driver 1.0-9755. It's running with a TV in my l
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 04:38:12PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
> >Are you sure you can feed S-Video to that input? On my TV there are two
> >SCARTs in the back but only one of them works with S-Video and I also
> >have to switch with the remote to SVHS2 and not AV2 (which only gives
> >BW). Read your
Andrei Popescu on 01/05/07 19:42, wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 03:17:20PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
So far I've got a black-and-white picture, no colour, and the picture's too
big for the screen, so I lose the top and bottom edges.
I suspect the no-colour problem may be due to the cabling -
Douglas Allan Tutty on 30/04/07 21:46, wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 09:59:40PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 20:33:27 +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
Don Hayward on 26/04/07 16:25, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Adam Hardy wrote:
I've got a hot nvidia 7950GT GPU which is support
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 03:17:20PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
> So far I've got a black-and-white picture, no colour, and the picture's too
> big for the screen, so I lose the top and bottom edges.
>
> I suspect the no-colour problem may be due to the cabling - I'm using an
> SVIDEO to scart cabl
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 09:59:40PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 20:33:27 +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
> > Don Hayward on 26/04/07 16:25, wrote:
> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Adam Hardy wrote:
> >>> I've got a hot nvidia 7950GT GPU which is supported by nvidia's latest
> >>> drive
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 20:33:27 +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
> Don Hayward on 26/04/07 16:25, wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Adam Hardy wrote:
>>> I've got a hot nvidia 7950GT GPU which is supported by nvidia's latest
>>> driver 1.0-9755. It's running with a TV in my living room.
>>>
>>> As for the s
Don Hayward on 26/04/07 16:25, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Adam Hardy wrote:
I've got a hot nvidia 7950GT GPU which is supported by nvidia's latest
driver 1.0-9755. It's running with a TV in my living room.
As for the screen size, I think I've got the xorg.conf set up as
perfect as it can be
Adam Hardy on 26/04/07 15:17, wrote:
spent the last 24 hours trying to get on top of this but reached the
limit of my resources now and seem to have hit most of the relevant
googleable info out there without getting past the current impasse.
I've got a hot nvidia 7950GT GPU which is supported
quot;
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
Option "UseFBDev" "true"
# TV Out Setup
Option "TVStandard" "NTSC"
Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
Option "TVOverSc
t; Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
>> Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
>> Option "Xinerama" "0"
>> Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024 , 1024x768"
>>
NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go]"
> >Driver "nvidia"
> >BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
> >Option "UseFBDev" "true"
> ># TV Out Setup
> >Option "TVStandard&quo
RT , TV"
Option "UseInit10Module" "true"
Quite a bit of difference I would say. Keep in mind the NvAGP may not
be appropriate for your card, if in doubt, set that to 0.
Hi Joe,
most of those settings appear to relate to twin view for running a monitor and a
TV
;PCI:1:0:0"
Option "UseFBDev" "true"
# TV Out Setup
Option "TVStandard" "NTSC"
Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
Option "TVOverScan" "0.6"
uot;TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
EndSection
The setup is quite different, but this "Device" works for me.
Section "Device"
Identifier "nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go]"
Driver "nvidia"
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Adam Hardy wrote:
> spent the last 24 hours trying to get on top of this but reached the
> limit of my resources now and seem to have hit most of the relevant
> googleable info out there without getting past the current impasse.
>
> I've got a hot nvi
spent the last 24 hours trying to get on top of this but reached the limit of my
resources now and seem to have hit most of the relevant googleable info out
there without getting past the current impasse.
I've got a hot nvidia 7950GT GPU which is supported by nvidia's latest driver
1.0-9755. I
ne on both displays, but when I run
mplayer, xawtv, etc ... it runs fine on the monitor and on the TV or
external display it just displays a green screen.
I've done an extensive search, and found the answer myself:
>From TV-out with ATI Radeon Video Cards
http://fedoranews.org/contributors/
gt; nvidia drivers. I know right now tv out is broken in the nvidia driver.
> I even tried nvtv with no success. Good luck. If you get anything
> working I'd sure like to hear about it.
Hmm. Cannot confirm this. For me, TV-out is fine with nvidia 8776 (and it
was with the earlier versions
On Sun, 2006-10-22 at 11:35 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> The description of 'nvtv' suggests it is possible:
>
> Description: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux
> This is a program to control the TV encoder chips on NVidia cards under
> Linux, in o
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 11:35:01AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> The description of 'nvtv' suggests it is possible:
>
> Description: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux
> This is a program to control the TV encoder chips on NVidia cards under
> Linu
Hello all,
The description of 'nvtv' suggests it is possible:
Description: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux
This is a program to control the TV encoder chips on NVidia cards under
Linux, in order to get tv-out with a wide range of resolutions and
sizes, including
200) does not support simult. output to both devices. Still, I wonder if
it would be possible to change between TV out and VGA. For the moment I
have to unplug my VGA cable and restart X, then I get the screen on my
TV. Does anybody know of an easier way?
Thanks!
S.
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> >On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:37:45 -0400
> >Simon Meelich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi everyone,
> >>
> >>does anybody have experience with Debian and TV out and/or MythTV? I'd
> >>like to
On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:37:45 -0400
Simon Meelich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> does anybody have experience with Debian and TV out and/or MythTV? I'd
> like to set this up on my newly installed Etch. Unfortunately I can't
> get the TV out to work
Hi everyone,
does anybody have experience with Debian and TV out and/or MythTV? I'd
like to set this up on my newly installed Etch. Unfortunately I can't
get the TV out to work properly. The picture is pretty much scrambled
Any ideas?
Thanks
Kind regards,
Simon Meeli
r my radeon card
(mobility U1).
Thanks anyway,
Bruno.On 12/8/05, Robert Michel <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Salve Bruno!On Mon, 05 Dec 2005, Bruno Diniz wrote:> I have a Presario 2100 laptop with a ATI graphics card. The lspci> description of the card is below:...> Sometime ago, I u
Hi,
I have a Presario 2100 laptop with a ATI graphics card. The lspci description of the card is below:
:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1
Sometime ago, I used to have TV-out working with X from Xfree86, the
dri trunk patches applied and atitvout
Howto configure xorg.conf to use LCD and TV at the same time?
I've got intel852/855 videocard,I try i810switch and i855crt without
any results.
It's working correct under ms-windows.
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Seems there aren't too many using / interested in tv out.
Anyway, I managed to get tv-out to work (by using atitvout) with telling
X to use the vesa driver instead of radeon. (I.e. by editing
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4, looking up the device driver (was "radeon") and
chang
Right ... Just installed kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686, and for some
mysterious reason, the DVD:s just got several minutes longer.
The previous kernel I used, 2.6.3, I had compiled myself. Obviously I
did something wrong. :) Does anyone have any pointers as to where it
went wrong? How was it possibl
Alright... I've been trying to find some more info.
There are some posts on the net suggesting the problem might have
something to do with kernel 2.6.*; I'm using 2.6.3. See
http://www.via.ecp.fr/via/ml/libdvd...1/msg6.html
There's also other posts suggesting the same thing, but I haven't fo
Hi,
Question I:
I've got this strange problem; tvout in X doesn't work any more -- works
fine from shell though (i.e. `bashing' on tv works ;) ).
I have a ATI Radeon 7500 Mobile card on a Dell Inspiron laptop, running
Debian unstable (up to date). I'm using the package atitvout to `attach'
tv
Dear Group,
I use TV-Out for viewing films and it works perfectly fine, as long as I
only use the mouse. XF86Config includes some lines for TwinView and the
graphics is ok, as well as the mouse. It took some while before I figured
out how to activate a window manager for that screen, but that is
Dear Group,
I put in a nVidia GeForce card to get a tv-out facility on my Debian Sarge
machine. It works perfectly fine with Gnome 2.4 running and I can watch
movies using Xine.
However, I have a peculiar problem:
The keyboard does not work to input text into windows displayed on the TV.
There
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:26:41AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> Mine has an actual TV-Out connector. I'm afraid I know nothing about
I see. :-(
> doing a VGA-out to TV-out connection. (I don't even know if it's
> possible.)
I think it is possible. But there
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 01:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:38:37PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> > The only way I've EVER done TV-out from a computer has been with my
> > laptop, which is using an ATI Mobility M4.
>
> Could You
Hi!
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:38:37PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> The only way I've EVER done TV-out from a computer has been with my
> laptop, which is using an ATI Mobility M4.
Could You tell me if the laptop has TV-out or You manage to connect TV
through external monitor c
I believe Freevo also supports frame buffer mode. This means older/slower
PCs can play divx/xvid videos as X is a bit of a hog.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:18 AM
Sub
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 17:18, Sebastian Helms wrote:
> Hi,
>
> my Linux box is running woody, but without X.
>
> I'd like to play DivX videos on this machine, still without X,
> viewing the output over the TV-out port of the video card.
>
> My questions are:
>
&g
Hi,
my Linux box is running woody, but without X.
I'd like to play DivX videos on this machine, still without X,
viewing the output over the TV-out port of the video card.
My questions are:
- is this possible?
- is there a non-X DivX-capable media player?
- which video card with TV-out
Hi All,
I am going to be buying a new video card soon and I want to watch divx
movies on my TV from my Computer. What is the best card on the market in
terms of configuration and features?
Thanks,
Jake Johnson
http://www.plutoid.com
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I am setting up some Shuttle SV25, which are
shoebox size socket-370 PC systems w/ everything
on the motherboard, and taking standard components.
They have a "VIA TV out encoder" on board.
The chip is actually labeled:
Chrontel
CH7006C-T
RUC 0206
MC821#A
I only have a tiny clue wh
Hi all,
with the following modelines in Debian Woody with XFree86 Version
4.1.0.1 on Savage4 Video adapter with driver module savage_drv.o version
1.1.16 I recognized a strange syncing problem. It looks like a virtual
line. The top half of the screen seems to entwined against the bottom
half of th
Hi,
I'm using a composite cable to connect my PC (ATI Radeon 7000 graphics
adapter) with the TV, because I don't want to use a monitor. I see the
output on the TV but only in text mode. In WinXP I can use resolutions
up to 1024x768 but I didn't get X working. I see a picture but the lines
are
On 0, Jerome BENOIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Subject: TV-Out: naive question
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> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 13:52:43 +0300
> From: Jerome BENOIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 13:52:43 +0300
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B
Hi!
So far I only had the opportunity to test a few graphic cards with
tv out (e.g. Asus V6600, 3D Savage something), but all produced a
very bad TV picture: low amount of colors and - which is even
more worse - an inaccurate picture size (either too small or too big).
Is this a general problem
here, however I'm not sure what to look for in a video card.
> >
> > In order to get DVD's scaled to full screen, it'd be nice to have some
> > degree of 2d acceleration on the tv-out, to get real Xv-type speeds. I
> > understand the TNT2s that have tv-ou
n order to get DVD's scaled to full screen, it'd be nice to have some degree
> of 2d acceleration on the tv-out, to get real Xv-type speeds. I understand
> the TNT2s that have tv-out are pretty good, but I've yet to hear any
> confirmation about whether or not they would supp
David Bellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The downside is that scan converters run from like $70USD - $180USD
> (and more).
And if you're going to buy one of those, just save yourself a whole
lot of trouble and buy a real DVD player. On a PIII-700 (with Xv,
mind) I haven't gotten flawless perf
You might consider getting a good video card without the TV out (save a
little money) and instead buying a scan converter. These devices take
your normal monitor output and converts to a signal suitable for the
TV. The benefits are that you get XV (the video card thinks the signal
is going
You might consider getting a good video card without the TV out (save a
little money) and instead buying a scan converter. These devices take
your normal monitor output and converts to a signal suitable for the
TV. The benefits are that you get XV (the video card thinks the signal
is going
On 05 Feb 2002 13:28:45 +0800
"Crispin Wellington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What experiences have people had with Matrox G400's?
I actually have one currently. :) No tv on the primary display though. No
acceleration of any kind on the second, afaict. :/. Correct me if I'm wrong
though.
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gt; In order to get DVD's scaled to full screen, it'd be nice to have some degree
> of 2d acceleration on the tv-out, to get real Xv-type speeds. I understand
> the TNT2s that have tv-out are pretty good, but I've yet to hear any
> confirmation about whether or not they
ice to have some degree
of 2d acceleration on the tv-out, to get real Xv-type speeds. I understand the
TNT2s that have tv-out are pretty good, but I've yet to hear any confirmation
about whether or not they would support Xv on a output-to-tv display.
Does anybody have any recommendations?
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Hi
My father has a Savage4 Pro card with TV-OUT. I have managed to get ogle
and vlc to run and show DVD on his computer, but now I would like to
connect the machine to the TV. In windows I can manage to get output to
TV, but the software is crappy so I would like to set up linux for him
so he can
On Wed, 2001-12-19 at 22:31, Steffen Evers wrote:
> Can you hint to a document
> or anything how I can use the TV out. What do I need to get the DRI
> working?
Hi Steffen,
DRI: mh, isn't it on by default? I just had to set DGA (loadmodule) once
for a TV card (ALDI, die Monokarte
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 21:20, Timo --Blazko-- Boewing wrote:
> Should have added that i use PAL (germany), i dunno the exact chip,
> should be a Chrontel 7001 or 7002.
I have a ELSA Gladiac 311 (NVidia GeForce2 MX DDR rev 178).
I have no idea how I can use the TV out port. Can you hin
On Wed, 2001-12-19 at 21:11, Jake Di Toro wrote:
Hello Jake
> This is not a Debian/Linux thing.
Is e.g. Mozilla a Debian/Linux thing as often discussed here??? :0)
Okay, let us get serious here: I was wondering if maybe a free software
package oriented to this "problem" is out there that maybe h
Should have added that i use PAL (germany), i dunno the exact chip,
should be a Chrontel 7001 or 7002.
Timo
At 09:02 PM 12/19/2001 +0100, Timo --Blazko-- Boewing wrote:
I am using sid w/ X 4.1 and use the latest nVidia dirvers and kernel
module interfaces. I use a Toshi 3000-100 laptop with a Geforce2Go w/ a
Chrontel TV out chipset.
TV-out works fine so far, but i would like to get to know your
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Timo --Blazko-- Boewing wrote:
> I am using sid w/ X 4.1 and use the latest nVidia dirvers and kernel
> module interfaces. I use a Toshi 3000-100 laptop with a Geforce2Go w/ a
> Chrontel TV out chipset.
The TV out chipset is important, but so is the analog devices at
Hello all,
I am using sid w/ X 4.1 and use the latest nVidia dirvers and kernel
module interfaces. I use a Toshi 3000-100 laptop with a Geforce2Go w/ a
Chrontel TV out chipset.
TV-out works fine so far, but i would like to get to know your
experiences. What is disturbing is this (on the TV device
On Thu, 2001-11-08 at 18:54, Shaya Potter wrote:
>
> I have one, haven't played around with it getting to work. you don't want
> bttv driver (as it doesn't use that chip).
cool, thanks!
> look at www.linuxvideo.org for what you need.
tried their ati tgz for X 4.1.0 (which i use), but it only
am using Debian unstable.
> There are pieces of docs all around the net, saying a lot of different
> things. Has anybody succeeded to get the above combination work with
> TV-Out or TV-IN ?
>
> Currently I don't even know whether I have to use bttv drivers or not.
> It's all a
Hi,
I have a ATI All in Wonder Radeon card and I am using Debian unstable.
There are pieces of docs all around the net, saying a lot of different
things. Has anybody succeeded to get the above combination work with
TV-Out or TV-IN ?
Currently I don't even know whether I have to use bttv dr
been able to get X11 to display on the tv...
win98 displays fine on the (real) tv but not x11... no driver for svga
to nstsc or equivalent...
- tried matrox G2xx/G4xx , netstream2000, ati rage/wonder..
some motherboards comes with ntsc/svideo/tv-out signals but we never
tested those mot
I imaging that most of the current TV-Out video cards will work with X if you
set X to the correct resolution and refresh - color depth should have little to
with it. I know that NTSC is 60Hz, so [EMAIL PROTECTED] might work, but I
suspect that you may need to find exact horizontal and
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Subject: support for tv-out cards ?
Hi
Before I bought a color vga monitor I was using my SiS 6326 card
with TV out. The consoles, svgalib with Vesa bios driver, Dosemu
graphics and XFree86
I have been thinking of getting a graphics card with tv-out and was
wondering if there are any supported cards ?
I have heard various rumours that nvidia is going to support this in the
future..
thanks for any help
/Jonas
Hi All,
I recently bought an Elsa Erazor III Pro Graphics Card. I'd like to use the
TV-Out for playing DVD's on my TV.
So far I found a solution where I have to unplug my monitor to get it working.
Does anybody know if there's another
(better) solution?
TIA
Robert
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