Re: Problem with suspend-to-disk

2018-02-21 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 21/02/2018 à 14:07, Louis Wust a écrit : Is your swap partition large enough to hold the contents of your RAM? It doesn't need to match (or exceed) the system memory capacity, but it should be reasonably large. Suspend-to-disk won't work if it is too small, but I'm not sure w

Re: Problem with suspend-to-disk

2018-02-21 Thread Louis Wust
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018, at 16:12, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > I am working on a little problem. Just let me shortly describe: > > When I am running suspend-to-disk, I can see, that the RAM is saved to > the partition (in my case I defined the swap partition). Is your swap partition

Problem with suspend-to-disk

2018-02-20 Thread Hans
Hi folks, I am working on a little problem. Just let me shortly describe: When I am running suspend-to-disk, I can see, that the RAM is saved to the partition (in my case I defined the swap partition). Everything is working fine, after that writing to disk, the computer is shutting down. So

Problem: suspend-to-disk + encrypted filesystems

2017-02-05 Thread Hans
Hi folks, since some months I got problems with suspend-to-disk. Running debin/testing I have /usr, /var and /home encrypted. Suspend-to-disk worked a long time, whilst the suspend/resume device was /dev/mapper/usr. But after some update, this does not work any more. Even, when I am using my

Re: No suspend-to-disk with kde

2014-05-15 Thread Hans
Hi Filip, > > You can simulate it on the command line with: > > $ dbus-send --print-reply --system \ > --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower \ > /org/freedesktop/UPower\ > org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate > Checked this and giving this command in a shell is working. So i

Re: No suspend-to-disk with kde

2014-05-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Filip wrote: On Tue, 13 May 2014 18:39:43 +0200 Hans wrote: Hi folks, I am looking for a problem in KDE. Problem: I cannot suspend to disk in KDE from the menu. The button exists, but has no effekt. Suspend-to-ram is working well in KDE. On the other hand the commands "hibernate

Re: No suspend-to-disk with kde

2014-05-14 Thread Filip
On Tue, 13 May 2014 18:39:43 +0200 Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am looking for a problem in KDE. > > Problem: I cannot suspend to disk in KDE from the menu. The button > exists, but has no effekt. > > Suspend-to-ram is working well in KDE. > > On the othe

No suspend-to-disk with kde

2014-05-13 Thread Hans
Hi folks, I am looking for a problem in KDE. Problem: I cannot suspend to disk in KDE from the menu. The button exists, but has no effekt. Suspend-to-ram is working well in KDE. On the other hand the commands "hibernate-disk" and "hibernate-ram" as root are working

Re: Inconsistent failures to resume from hibernation / suspend-to-disk on a Thinkpad T61

2011-12-19 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:52:39 -0800 kei...@strucktower.com wrote: > Hi- > > I can't say why, but my resume from sleep problems went away after I moved > to a 3.0 kernel with wheezy. I don't use hibernate. I have a Thinkpad > T520. Thanks. I haven't yet begun with sleep, partially since I haven't

Inconsistent failures to resume from hibernation / suspend-to-disk on a Thinkpad T61

2011-12-18 Thread Celejar
I recently installed Squeeze onto a T61. Hibernation (via the 'hibernate' command, or 'pm-hibernate') always seems to work, but the system doesn't always come back up. The first time after a reboot it seems to always come back, but it often / usually fails the second or third time. I'm running amd6

Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-27 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Jeffrin, Thanks for the advice. > I think some module which help in the suspend/resume > process has failed to complete initialization. > EDAC(Error Correction And Detection) module might > have found error in a device or may be the module > needs a patch. > > You can do dmesg | grep edac and

Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-27 Thread Richard Lawrence
Camaleón writes: > Well, no kernel oops is "good" but if you can reproduce this kernel bug > every time you trigger the hibernation from GNOME when resuming the > system, at least you can open a bug for this in Debian BTS. You are > clearly having some sort of problem with the kernel. Right o

Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-26 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:56:26 -0800, Richard Lawrence wrote: > Thanks, Camaleón, for these suggestions. > >> Make a quick and easy test: create a new user and try to >> hibernate/resume from there and see how it goes. > > Ok, here's where I'm at: > > 1) A new user (pmtest) can indeed hibernate a

Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-25 Thread Jeffrin Jose
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:56:10PM -0800, Richard Lawrence wrote: > But I'm uncertain where to look for more information (I can't find > anything more informative anywhere in /var/log), or how to go about > determining whether this is a configuration issue I can fix or a bug > that I should file. >

Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-25 Thread Richard Lawrence
Thanks, Camaleón, for these suggestions. > Make a quick and easy test: create a new user and try to hibernate/resume > from there and see how it goes. Ok, here's where I'm at: 1) A new user (pmtest) can indeed hibernate and resume from the console without issue 2) My regular user account (rwl)

Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-25 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:56:10 -0800, Richard Lawrence wrote: > I upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze this past weekend. Since then, I > haven't been able to successfully resume after a suspend to disk, which > had been working fine in Lenny (with Linux 2.6.26). Basically, on boot, >

Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

2011-02-24 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi all, I upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze this past weekend. Since then, I haven't been able to successfully resume after a suspend to disk, which had been working fine in Lenny (with Linux 2.6.26). Basically, on boot, I see a blinking cursor, followed by a completely blank (unresponsive

Re: USB3/xhci and hibernate/suspend to disk [SOLVED]

2011-02-19 Thread Andre [debian]
og does not show anything obviously wrong (to me). > I can post that when I get home. > > I don't understand why devices need to quiesce on resume.  Are drivers > loaded first, then need to make room for the drivers that were in the > suspended image? > > Does anyone have any ide

USB3/xhci and hibernate/suspend to disk

2011-02-16 Thread Andre [debian]
iesce on resume. Are drivers loaded first, then need to make room for the drivers that were in the suspended image? Does anyone have any idea why I am unable to resume from a hibernation state? Or is there something wrong with the suspend to disk in the first place? Is the ata3 error meaningful

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-05 Thread Camaleón
stead Powerdevil- to get the job done (whether available). - You can remove the package responsible for hibernation (swsusp/uswsusp) to avoid the computer going into S4 state. I find this approach a little radical, meaning I wouldn't take that path, but that is up to you. Powerdevil just shows

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-04 Thread Celejar
our data is much safer in the > > > long run if you restrain yourself to suspend-to-RAM and shutdowns. > > > > Can you elaborate on this? I have certainly experienced my share of > > Yes. Suspend-to-disk on Linux x86/amd64 depends on fragile operations, and >

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-04 Thread Lisi
On Friday 03 September 2010 18:47:20 Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:22:52 +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Freitag, 3. September 2010 schrieb Lisi: > >> > No, I _can't_. That's the whole reason for my asking here. There is > >> > no option to hide the button. I've attached a tiny s

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
. > > Can you elaborate on this? I have certainly experienced my share of Yes. Suspend-to-disk on Linux x86/amd64 depends on fragile operations, and worse, it requires that the hibernation core and some of the more fiendishly complex kernel subsystems never disagree at all on the details.

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-03 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Freitag, 3. September 2010 schrieb Camaleón: > >> > No, I _can't_. That's the whole reason for my asking here. There is > >> > no option to hide the button. I've attached a tiny screenie where you > >> > can see the problematic combo box and the hibernation (Tiefschlaf) > >> > button right unde

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-03 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:22:52 +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Freitag, 3. September 2010 schrieb Lisi: > >> > No, I _can't_. That's the whole reason for my asking here. There is >> > no option to hide the button. I've attached a tiny screenie where you >> > can see the problematic combo box

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-03 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Freitag, 3. September 2010 schrieb Lisi: > > No, I _can't_. That's the whole reason for my asking here. There is no > > option to hide the button. I've attached a tiny screenie where you can > > see the problematic combo box and the hibernation (Tiefschlaf) button > > right underneath. > > I'm

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-03 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 02 September 2010 21:11:33 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 2. September 2010 schrieb Camaleón: > > On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:40:56 +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 2. September 2010 schrieb Camaleón: > > >> I meant you can hibernate your computer with any am

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-02 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 14:32:03 -0300 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: ... > That said, I don't trust hybernation. Your data is much safer in the > long run if you restrain yourself to suspend-to-RAM and shutdowns. Can you elaborate on this? I have certainly experienced my share of hibernation

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-02 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:11:33 +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 2. September 2010 schrieb Camaleón: (...) >> > Booting to the login screeen takes ~35–40 seconds here. Plus another >> > half minute to load the DE. Usually I am using normal standby (aka >> > suspend to RAM). Powerde

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 2. September 2010 schrieb Camaleón: > On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:40:56 +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 2. September 2010 schrieb Camaleón: > >> I meant you can hibernate your computer with any amount of ram > >> available, there are still restoring speed gains in some

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Jo, 02 sep 10, 07:39:09, Camaleón wrote: > > Amount of ram should not be a relevant key value for benefiting of > > hibernation. > > Unless there's something I'm missing, copying the contents of the RAM to > HDD and back heavily depends on the tota

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-02 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:40:56 +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 2. September 2010 schrieb Camaleón: > >> I meant you can hibernate your computer with any amount of ram >> available, there are still restoring speed gains in some computers. >> Your mileage may vary. > > But you also

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 2. September 2010 schrieb Camaleón: > I meant you can hibernate your computer with any amount of ram available, > there are still restoring speed gains in some computers. Your mileage may > vary. But you also need as much space on the HDD to store the RAM content, which I don’t re

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-02 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:03:33 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Jo, 02 sep 10, 07:39:09, Camaleón wrote: >> >> Amount of ram should not be a relevant key value for benefiting of >> hibernation. > > Unless there's something I'm missing, copying the contents of the RAM to > HDD and back heavily dep

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Jo, 02 sep 10, 07:39:09, Camaleón wrote: > > Amount of ram should not be a relevant key value for benefiting of > hibernation. Unless there's something I'm missing, copying the contents of the RAM to HDD and back heavily depends on the total data available in RAM, which tends to be higher d

Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-02 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:11:27 +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > because I can’t make Powerdevil (KDE’s power management utility) hide > the "Hibernate" button (which I hit accidentially from time to time), > I’d like to disable the suspend to disk feature on my system. It’s not

What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?

2010-09-01 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Hello List, because I can’t make Powerdevil (KDE’s power management utility) hide the "Hibernate" button (which I hit accidentially from time to time), I’d like to disable the suspend to disk feature on my system. It’s not practical anyway (it’s a laptop with 3 GB of RAM). So w

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:37:36PM +0200, lee wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 07:31:51PM +0200, Klistvud wrote: > > Dne, 28. 06. 2010 18:30:42 je lee napisal(a): > > > > > >Yes, but I don't want to suspend to RAM because the point is to save > > >power, and suspend to RAM will fail when the power

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 06:02:47PM +0200, lee wrote: > > If developers are not aware of your situation, they cannot correct the > > bugs > > Still filing bug reports doesn't seem to achieve anything these days. Do you mean that, because of this … http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?subm

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 06:14:07PM +0200, lee wrote: > It's ppl using computers and running software on them; computers don't > run all by themselves, … Umm, no. Someone logging in, is a major annoyance to its real work. :-) -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debia

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 18:02:47 +0200 lee wrote: > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 04:00:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: ... > > If developers are not aware of your situation, they cannot correct the > > bugs > > Still filing bug reports doesn't seem to achieve anything these days. Overbroad generalization.

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 20:33:34 +0200, lee wrote: > On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 04:42:46PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> You cannot disconnect the main disk because hibernation saves the image >> of the running system there (unless you manually change the location). > > Sure I can disconnect the disks. But

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Memnon Anon
Lisi writes: [...] > I do not know about Germany, but here the shop/firm would be likely to > say that installing Linux counts as misuse, or at any rate is not > covered, and would in all probability have no difficulty persuading > both Trading Standards Officers and the courts to agree with them.

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Camaleón
t;my" objections but how things work. If you don't like it, I'm afraid I can only say "sorry for you". > I was saying that suspend to > disk is something that should work out of the box. In an ideal world, yes, *anything* should just work out the box... > Th

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread lee
n try with a LiveCD to avoid data loss. Nowadays you have many > >> choices to test hibernation in a safe environment. > > > > There's nothing save about turning off and on the hardware many times > > consecutively. I could disconnect the disks to minimize the

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread lee
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 05:06:02PM +, Camaleón wrote: > No, I think you still ignore what is this all about. I'll try to make it > short and easy: Your objections are completely irrelevant. I was saying that suspend to disk is something that should work out of the box. The Debia

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:14:07 +0200, lee wrote: > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 08:42:02PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:40:32 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: >> >> > Excuse me but are you *really* saying that anyone "there" would buy a >> > car that only certain people can operate with

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Camaleón
hibernation in a safe environment. > > There's nothing save about turning off and on the hardware many times > consecutively. I could disconnect the disks to minimize the risks, but > then it won't be possible to test suspend to disk. You cannot disconnect the main disk

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 04 July 2010 17:14:07 lee wrote: > It's ppl using computers and running software on them; computers don't > run all by themselves, just like cars. Same is with refrigerators: You > don't get a certificate telling you exactly which goods you may put > into your fridge. But you expect your

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread lee
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 08:42:02PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:40:32 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 04:00:57PM +, Camale�n wrote: > >> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:11:03 +0200, lee wrote: > > > > .snip. > > > >> > And who

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-04 Thread lee
but then it won't be possible to test suspend to disk. > If developers are not aware of your situation, they cannot correct the > bugs Still filing bug reports doesn't seem to achieve anything these days. > > No, you're doing that. It's just hardware, and if it doe

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:40:32 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 04:00:57PM +, Camale�n wrote: >> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:11:03 +0200, lee wrote: > > .snip. > >> > And who would buy a car that comes with a certificate that only the >> > ppl name

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 04:00:57PM +, Camale�n wrote: > On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:11:03 +0200, lee wrote: .snip. > > And who would buy a car that comes with a > > certificate that only the ppl named in the certificate are allowed to > > use it and that otherwise the c

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:11:03 +0200, lee wrote: > On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 07:10:58PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> >> So... when something goes wrong, you need to debug it, whatever it is >> (hibernation or something else). And debugging usually requires some >> "sacrifices" >:-) (meaning, trial and e

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-03 Thread lee
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 07:10:58PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > So... when something goes wrong, you need to debug it, whatever it is > (hibernation or something else). And debugging usually requires some > "sacrifices" >:-) (meaning, trial and error tests). Insofar such testing involves eventual

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-01 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 19:29:00 +0200, lee wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:44:58PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> And how do you interpret that? Do you see any line about the freeze and >> hibernation? As per your own subject on this thread, I'd say "yes". > > My interpretation is that it doesn't wo

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-01 Thread lee
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:44:58PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:45:30 +0200, lee wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 05:21:08PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> Then you should read about how to debugg "swsusp" when restoration > >> fails :-) > > > > The resuming didn't fail, bu

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:45:30 +0200, lee wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 05:21:08PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> Then you should read about how to debugg "swsusp" when restoration >> fails :-) > > The resuming didn't fail, but shortly after, the computer froze. And how do you interpret that? Do y

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread lee
ata to disk and then suspend-to-ram. But what's the advantage of suspending to RAM supposed to be? It doesn't matter to me that resuming from disk takes half a minute or so longer than it would take to resume from RAM. As to magnitutes, during the suspend, it takes indefinitely more power

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread lee
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 05:21:08PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:22:48 +0200, lee wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 04:05:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> Where did you get that steps to hibernate? :-? > > > > It's in the kernel dokumentation, see Documentation/power/swsus

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread lee
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 07:31:51PM +0200, Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 28. 06. 2010 18:30:42 je lee napisal(a): > > > >Yes, but I don't want to suspend to RAM because the point is to save > >power, and suspend to RAM will fail when the power fails. > > In that case, pm-suspend-hybrid should give you the

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 28 iun 10, 18:30:42, lee wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:16:07AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > I do not exactly know your problem but suspend and hibernate are not always > > exclusive things. Some configuration puts system into suspend to memory > > while > > having the same data sto

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 28. 06. 2010 18:30:42 je lee napisal(a): Yes, but I don't want to suspend to RAM because the point is to save power, and suspend to RAM will fail when the power fails. In that case, pm-suspend-hybrid should give you the best of both worlds. Anyway, suspend to RAM *does* save some power

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:22:48 +0200, lee wrote: > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 04:05:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> Where did you get that steps to hibernate? :-? > > It's in the kernel dokumentation, see Documentation/power/swsusp.txt. Then you should read about how to debugg "swsusp" when restorati

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread lee
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:16:07AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > I do not exactly know your problem but suspend and hibernate are not always > exclusive things. Some configuration puts system into suspend to memory while > having the same data stored into harddisk too. So you win in both bo

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread lee
e point is saving power by turning off the computer (like over night) and yet be able to continue exactly where you left. The only alternative to suspend to disk is to leave it running, which is what I'm trying to avoid to save power. If it doesn't work 100% reliably without a lot of tes

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread lee
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 04:05:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:28:45 +0200, lee wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 01:43:49PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> And how do you suspend to disk? By pressing a button, running a > >> script...? Yo

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, I do not exactly know your problem but suspend and hibernate are not always exclusive things. Some configuration puts system into suspend to memory while having the same data stored into harddisk too. So you win in both boot time and complete battery drain situation. see uswsusp package. D

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-28 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 27. 06. 2010 18:24:28 je Mark napisal(a): I realize it's mostly due to the drivers not being open. Sometimes the headache and tears are because we realize we have to accept a compromise. In my case, the compromise I had to accept was with the (flaky) closed Broadcom wireless driver.

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 27 iun 10, 09:24:28, Mark wrote: > I would never use Suspend on a desktop due to lack of battery/UPS present. > As for Hibernate, it takes as long to do a fresh boot as a resume from > Hibernate on my desktops so really there's not much point there. Especially if your session manager can

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread Mark
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Camaleón wrote: [snip] > I for one do not use hibernation neither suspension at all [snip] The only machine I use Suspend on is a laptop running Windows, because (a) it's a laptop and has a built-in UPS should power go out, and (b) Windows nvidia drivers resu

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:28:45 +0200, lee wrote: > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 01:43:49PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> And how do you suspend to disk? By pressing a button, running a >> script...? You said in your first writing that "(sic) after suspending >> to disk during the

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread lee
gt; send the machine to hibernate? > > > > Currently, I'm using fvwm-crystal. The pm-utils package is installed, > > and now I installed and configured uswsusp. > > And how do you suspend to disk? By pressing a button, running a > script...? You said in your first writing that

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread Camaleón
ge is installed, > and now I installed and configured uswsusp. And how do you suspend to disk? By pressing a button, running a script...? You said in your first writing that "(sic) after suspending to disk during the night and resuming..." you were having problems to resto

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread lee
if any? and how do you send > the machine to hibernate? Currently, I'm using fvwm-crystal. The pm-utils package is installed, and now I installed and configured uswsusp. Right now I'm asking myself exactly that question: Just how do I suspend to disk now? > You need to keep ram po

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread Camaleón
f the computer are dumped into ram... and remember ram is "volatile": if not powered, no info can be stored and kept there :-) > Is there a good documentation about suspend to disk for Debian? I only found the above page :-? >> Suspend to disk (hibernation) uses swap sp

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread lee
p the RAM powered? Is there a good documentation about suspend to disk for Debian? > Suspend to disk (hibernation) uses swap space to put the image data there > when you trigger the hibernation scripts, so you need to have this value > adjusted in order to success. That's what

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread Camaleón
uired swap space >> accordingly. At least it should be nice to have such option, but dunno >> if it's already present or not :-? > > Oh, I mean the setting in /sys/power/image_size. The kernel knows how > much RAM is available and how much is needed to suspend to disk

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread lee
so I got no > advice, which is normal. But default installer and automatic partitioning > should indeed ask the user and if he/she wants to hibertante the machine > and adjust the amount of required swap space accordingly. At least it > should be nice to have such option, but dunno if it&#x

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:28:36 +0200, lee wrote: > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:13:23AM +, Camaleón wrote: >> No, but there can be problems with some of your devices or drivers that >> prevent restoring from hibernation "gracefully". You'll have to >> investigate a bit. Review your log. > > But

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread lee
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:13:23AM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:58:09 +0200, lee wrote: > > > after suspending to disk during the night and resuming, my computer > > froze with a black screen after running maybe three minutes. > > > > Is s

Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:58:09 +0200, lee wrote: > after suspending to disk during the night and resuming, my computer > froze with a black screen after running maybe three minutes. > > Is suspend to disk that unreliable? No, but there can be problems with some of your devices or

suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-06-27 Thread lee
Hi, after suspending to disk during the night and resuming, my computer froze with a black screen after running maybe three minutes. Is suspend to disk that unreliable? When suspending to disk, the default size of the image written is 512MB. What happens when there's more data that needs

Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

2010-04-26 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:09:36 +0200, Felix Natter wrote: > Camaleón writes: >> BTW, how do you call the hibernation state? You should type >> "hibernation" in a text console (gnome-terminal, xterm, konsole...). > > That was it: I used the GNOME shutdown dialog: I thought it would call > hibernate

Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

2010-04-26 Thread Felix Natter
Camaleón writes: > On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:06:13 +0200, Felix Natter wrote: > >> Felix Natter writes: >> >>> so verbosity 1 should output something, but I will try 4. >> >> Changing verbosity didn't help, I still have no hibernate.log anywhere >> in /var. hello Camaleon, > So you changed "Verb

Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

2010-04-25 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:06:13 +0200, Felix Natter wrote: > Felix Natter writes: > >> so verbosity 1 should output something, but I will try 4. > > Changing verbosity didn't help, I still have no hibernate.log anywhere > in /var. So you changed "Verbosity 4" and "LogVerbosity 4" but still nothing

Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

2010-04-25 Thread Felix Natter
Felix Natter writes: > Camaleón writes: > >> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:33:59 +0200, Felix Natter wrote: >> >>> Camaleón writes: >>> What does "/var/log/hibernate.log" say? >>> >>> /var/log/hibernate* does not exist after a (succesful) resume, although >>> this is in common.conf: >>> >>> Ver

Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

2010-04-24 Thread Felix Natter
Camaleón writes: > On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:33:59 +0200, Felix Natter wrote: > >> Camaleón writes: >> >>> What does "/var/log/hibernate.log" say? >> >> /var/log/hibernate* does not exist after a (succesful) resume, although >> this is in common.conf: >> >> Verbosity 0 >> LogFile /var/log/hiberna

Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

2010-04-24 Thread Andrew Malcolmson
This site has great resources on fixing suspend problems: http://hal.freedesktop.org/quirk/quirk-suspend-index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/h

Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

2010-04-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:33:59 +0200, Felix Natter wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> What does "/var/log/hibernate.log" say? > > /var/log/hibernate* does not exist after a (succesful) resume, although > this is in common.conf: > > Verbosity 0 > LogFile /var/log/hibernate.log > LogVerbosity 1 > > An

Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

2010-04-24 Thread Felix Natter
Camaleón writes: > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:36:29 +0200, Felix Natter wrote: > > (...) > >> So does this command cause hibernate to read >> /etc/hibernate/blacklisted-modules, or do I have to add UnloadModules >> uvcvideo >> ? hello, > What does "/var/log/hibernate.log" say? /var/log/hibernate*

Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

2010-04-23 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:36:29 +0200, Felix Natter wrote: (...) > So does this command cause hibernate to read > /etc/hibernate/blacklisted-modules, or do I have to add UnloadModules > uvcvideo > ? What does "/var/log/hibernate.log" say? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

2010-04-22 Thread Felix Natter
hello, I am having problems with the uvcvideo module (driver for webcam) when resuming from Suspend To Disk on Debian Lenny (with the latest updates) with a 2.6.30 kernel. When I wanted to blacklist this module for suspend, I noticed that it is already in /etc/hibernate/blacklisted-modules. My

[Fwd: suspend-to-disk (powersave -U) problems]

2006-09-21 Thread Owen Heisler
> I just tried out powersave for suspending to RAM or disk and was quite > impressed that it all worked without any tweaking whatsoever. Well, > almost, that is. When I use suspend-to-disk, then resume, my usb > optical mouse isn't initialized (light/laser/whatever is off) until

suspend-to-disk (powersave -U) problems

2006-09-21 Thread Owen Heisler
I just tried out powersave for suspending to RAM or disk and was quite impressed that it all worked without any tweaking whatsoever. Well, almost, that is. When I use suspend-to-disk, then resume, my usb optical mouse isn't initialized (light/laser/whatever is off) until I hit a key o

Re: suspend to disk not work in sid?

2006-09-01 Thread Lorenzo Bettini
by the way, anyone succeeded in making suspend to disk work with nvidia drivers? thanks in advance -- +-+ | Lorenzo Bettini ICQ# lbetto, 16080134 | | Home Page: http://www.lorenzobettini.it| | http

Re: suspend to disk not work in sid?

2006-08-27 Thread Jeff Zhang
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Jeff Zhang wrote: >> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >>> Jeff Zhang wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i add resume=/dev/hda6 (it's swap partition) to menu.list of grub and "echo "disk" > /sys/

Re: suspend to disk not work in sid?

2006-08-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Jeff Zhang wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Jeff Zhang wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i add resume=/dev/hda6 (it's swap partition) to menu.list of grub and "echo "disk" > /sys/power/state" looks working well when shutdown. However, it can't work after reboot and swap partiti

Re: suspend to disk not work in sid?

2006-08-26 Thread Jeff Zhang
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Jeff Zhang wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i add resume=/dev/hda6 (it's swap partition) to menu.list of grub and "echo "disk" > /sys/power/state" looks working well when shutdown. However, it can't work after reboot and swap partition need to mkswap t

Re: suspend to disk not work in sid?

2006-08-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Jeff Zhang wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i add resume=/dev/hda6 (it's swap partition) to menu.list of grub and "echo "disk" > /sys/power/state" looks working well when shutdown. However, it can't work after reboot and swap partition need to mkswap to swapon. Using hibern

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