On Tue, 08 May 2012 15:27:26 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 08 May 2012 09:22:56 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
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>> On Mon, 07 May 2012 14:35:31 +, Camaleón wrote:
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> (...)
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>>> Those "green" disks can be good for using them as stand-alone devices
>>> for user backup/archiving but not for 2
On Tue, 08 May 2012 09:22:56 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Mon, 07 May 2012 14:35:31 +, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
>> Those "green" disks can be good for using them as stand-alone devices
>> for user backup/archiving but not for 24/365 nor a NAS nor something
>> that requires quick access and fa
On Mon, 07 May 2012 14:35:31 +, Camaleón wrote:
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> For the raided space, yes, but still you can "redistribute" the disk
> better.
Ah yes, this is true.
(...)
>> I'd like using green drives for this system. So low power consumption
>> is a thing I try keep low. And until now they wor
On Sun, 06 May 2012 19:27:59 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Sun, 06 May 2012 18:10:41 +, Camaleón wrote:
> You have drives of the same size in your raid.
Yes, that's a limitation coming from the hardware raid controller.
>>>
>>> Isn't this limitation coming from the raid idea
On Sun, 06 May 2012 18:10:41 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 06 May 2012 17:44:54 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
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>> On Sun, 06 May 2012 15:40:50 +, Camaleón wrote:
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>>> Okay. And how much space are you planning to handle? Do you prefer a
>>> big pool to store data or you prefer using small ch
On Sun, 06 May 2012 17:44:54 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Sun, 06 May 2012 15:40:50 +, Camaleón wrote:
>> Okay. And how much space are you planning to handle? Do you prefer a
>> big pool to store data or you prefer using small chunks? And what about
>> the future? Have you tought about expa
On Sun, 06 May 2012 15:40:50 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 06 May 2012 14:52:19 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
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>> On Sun, 06 May 2012 13:47:59 +, Camaleón wrote:
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Then I put the 28 partitions (4x3 + 4x4) in a raid 6?
>>>
>>> Then you can pair/mix the partitions as you prefer (when usi
On Sun, 06 May 2012 14:52:19 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Sun, 06 May 2012 13:47:59 +, Camaleón wrote:
>>> Then I put the 28 partitions (4x3 + 4x4) in a raid 6?
>>
>> Then you can pair/mix the partitions as you prefer (when using mdadm/
>> linux raid, I mean). The "layout" (number of disks
On Sun, 06 May 2012 13:47:59 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 06 May 2012 12:35:40 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
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>> On Sun, 06 May 2012 12:18:33 +, Camaleón wrote:
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>>> If your hard disk capacity is ~1.5 TiB then you can get 3 partitions
>>> from there of ~500 GiB of size (e.g., sda1, sda2 an
On Sun, 06 May 2012 12:35:40 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Sun, 06 May 2012 12:18:33 +, Camaleón wrote:
>> If your hard disk capacity is ~1.5 TiB then you can get 3 partitions
>> from there of ~500 GiB of size (e.g., sda1, sda2 and sda3). For a
>> second disk, the same (e.g., sdb1, sdb2 and
On Sun, 06 May 2012 12:18:33 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 06 May 2012 11:46:21 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
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>> On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:15:22 +, Camaleón wrote:
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On the other hand it isn't possible to have different disk sizes in a
raid 6 neither.
>>>
>>> I think yes, that you c
On Sun, 06 May 2012 11:46:21 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:15:22 +, Camaleón wrote:
>>> On the other hand it isn't possible to have different disk sizes in a
>>> raid 6 neither.
>>
>> I think yes, that you can, but only the lowest of the disk capacities
>> will be used (
On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:15:22 +, Camaleón wrote:
>>> Just a note of caution here.
>>>
>>> RAID 5 with big hard disks can be a real pain and a real problem. If
>>> one of the arrays go down, the rebuilding operation can take up to
>>> "days" (depending on the controller's capacity) and if whi
On Sun, 06 May 2012 04:00:46 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 5/3/2012 1:27 PM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> mdraid is quite tolerant with drive errors before it finally kicks them
> offline. Using the firmware RAID on this LSI card, any drive showing
> flaky behavior will be kicked very quickly from
On 5/3/2012 1:27 PM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> Btw: Wouldn't it be better to use software raid?
There are many factors involved in this decision, and just as many
opinions available from users who prefer one method over the other.
> In case of failure of
> the controller I would need to get exactly
On Sat, 05 May 2012 10:44:02 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Fri, 04 May 2012 15:38:10 +, Camaleón wrote:
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>> http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/LSIMegaRAIDSAS
>>
>> Ufff, I was not aware of this:
>>
>> ***
>> There is currently no known opensource tool for theses cards.
>> ***
>>
>> How
On Fri, 04 May 2012 15:38:10 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 04 May 2012 10:48:36 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
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>> On Thu, 03 May 2012 20:27:02 +, Camaleón wrote:
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>>> There's some useful information in one of the links I sent before:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins
>>
>>
On Fri, 04 May 2012 10:48:36 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Thu, 03 May 2012 20:27:02 +, Camaleón wrote:
>> There's some useful information in one of the links I sent before:
>>
>> http://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins
>
> Maybe I miss something but the page doesn't say anything about c
On Thu, 03 May 2012 20:27:02 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Thu, 03 May 2012 18:27:55 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
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>> On Thu, 03 May 2012 16:30:00 +, Camaleón wrote:
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>>> 2/ The card's manufacturer provides a set of CLI tools (also GUI/web
>>> based) to control all of the aspects of the
On Thu, 03 May 2012 18:27:55 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Thu, 03 May 2012 16:30:00 +, Camaleón wrote:
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>> In brief, yes, that card seems one of those you can consider to be
>> "safe" enough to don't have many problems :-P
>
> This sounds very good :-)
Sounds good, but only your ow
On Thu, 03 May 2012 13:05:55 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> His disks are fine. The Marvell SAS driver is problem. This is a
> thoroughly documented. The mvsas driver is simply crap.
Something that the Supermicro support told me just came back into my mind
and worries me: With the Norco RPC-
On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:21:17 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 5/2/2012 11:30 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 May 2012 15:43:13 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
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>>> On 5/1/2012 12:37 PM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>>>
I have the RPC-4220 case with 20 howswap slots.
>>>
>>> You should have mentione
On Thu, 03 May 2012 16:30:00 +, Camaleón wrote:
> In brief, yes, that card seems one of those you can consider to be
> "safe" enough to don't have many problems :-P
This sounds very good :-)
>>> Mmm, yes. I can't tell for that specific model but LSI is a good
>>> manufacturer for HBA solu
On 5/3/2012 8:48 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> Thanks for the warning. I will carefully check about the LSI 9240-4i and
> the Intel 6Gb SAS expander.
SAS expanders are transparent. They have no bearing on supported drive
sizes. That is entirely up to the HBA firmware. And in this case the
9240 sup
On 5/2/2012 11:30 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2012 15:43:13 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
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>> On 5/1/2012 12:37 PM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
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>>> I have the RPC-4220 case with 20 howswap slots.
>>
>> You should have mentioned this sooner, as there is a better solution
>> than buying 3 of th
On Thu, 03 May 2012 13:48:33 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Wed, 02 May 2012 17:49:53 +, Camaleón wrote:
(removing some stuff)
>> Just let me add a note of warning here: whatever SAS/SATA card you
>> finally choose, ensure that has support for big hard disks (>2-3TiB)
>> just in case, becaus
cards (1x PCI, 2x PCI-Ex1 only for the tv
>> cards).
>
> Okay, I didn't realize you were planning to use all of the available
> hard disk trays of the case :-)
>
> But then, you will need SAS controller with expansion capabilities,
> don't you? I maybe overlooked b
y than the
>> average :-)
>
> Since I couldn't find any mainboards with more than 20 SATA ports and
> enough slots for addon cards (1x PCI, 2x PCI-Ex1 only for the tv cards).
Okay, I didn't realize you were planning to use all of the available hard
disk trays of the case :
On Tue, 01 May 2012 15:43:13 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 5/1/2012 12:37 PM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
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>> I have the RPC-4220 case with 20 howswap slots.
>
> You should have mentioned this sooner, as there is a better solution
> than buying 3 of the 9211-8i, which is $239*3= $717. And you end up
On Wed, 02 May 2012 14:21:36 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2012 17:29:17 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
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>> On Tue, 01 May 2012 16:16:07 +, Camaleón wrote:
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>>> What kind of hardware do you have (motherboard brand and model) and
>>> what kind of hard disk controller do you need, what
On Tue, 01 May 2012 17:29:17 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2012 16:16:07 +, Camaleón wrote:
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>> What kind of hardware do you have (motherboard brand and model) and
>> what kind of hard disk controller do you need, what are your
>> expectations?
>>
>> SuperMicro boards (I'm also
On 5/1/2012 12:37 PM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> I have the RPC-4220 case with 20 howswap slots.
You should have mentioned this sooner, as there is a better solution
than buying 3 of the 9211-8i, which is $239*3= $717. And you end up
with one SFF8087 port wasted.
Instead, get a 24 port Intel 6Gb SAS
Sorry I hit ctrl + enter or something and the message went out...
On Tue, 01 May 2012 17:29:17 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> But I'm confused about the two different versions too. lspci shows:
01:00.0 RAID bus controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
MV64460/64461/64462 System Controller, Revisi
On Tue, 01 May 2012 10:57:47 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 5/1/2012 6:53 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro
>> AOC-SASLP-MV8 as controller for a software raid.
>
> The mvsas Linux driver has never been ready for production, unles
On Tue, 01 May 2012 16:16:07 +, Camaleón wrote:
>> Can you recommend something better?
>> It was very nice because it's quite cheap and I don't need a hardware
>> raid card.
>
> "Cheap" and "nice" do not usually came together, or to put it well,
> "cheap" and "good performance" do not usually
On 5/1/2012 8:35 AM, Allan Wind wrote:
> On 2012-05-01 11:53:27, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro AOC-SASLP-MV8
>> as controller for a software raid.
>
> I have a different SuperMicro board and it can run in two
> different modes, forget their nam
On Tue, 01 May 2012 14:38:47 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2012 13:31:34 +, Camaleón wrote:
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>> On Tue, 01 May 2012 11:53:27 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
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>>> I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro
>>> AOC-SASLP-MV8 as controller for a software raid. Unfortu
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 02:54:24PM +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2012 09:35:36 -0400, Allan Wind wrote:
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>
> So I suppose I have to create a USB stick that boots DOS and then run one
> of the command. But which one. Maybe smc.bat but what is dos4gw.exe for?
https://en.wikipe
On 5/1/2012 6:53 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro AOC-SASLP-MV8
> as controller for a software raid.
The mvsas Linux driver has never been ready for production, unless
things have dramatically changed very recently. The AOC-SASLP-MV
On Tue, 01 May 2012 14:54:24 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> Do you remember how you updated the firmware?
I have just got an answer from supermicro:
> You can create bootable USB stick with this utility (windows only)
> http://download.softpedia.ro/dl/
f82c4af1fbe1f35565d91a87dedd9c5b/4e083d83/100
On Tue, 01 May 2012 09:35:36 -0400, Allan Wind wrote:
> On 2012-05-01 11:53:27, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro
>> AOC-SASLP-MV8 as controller for a software raid.
>
> I have a different SuperMicro board and it can run in two different
> modes, fo
On Tue, 01 May 2012 13:31:34 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2012 11:53:27 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>
>> I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro
>> AOC-SASLP-MV8 as controller for a software raid. Unfortunately the
>> system crashes when I try creating a filesystem on
On 2012-05-01 11:53:27, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro AOC-SASLP-MV8
> as controller for a software raid.
I have a different SuperMicro board and it can run in two
different modes, forget their names for it, but one supports soft
raid and the ot
On Tue, 01 May 2012 11:53:27 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro
> AOC-SASLP-MV8 as controller for a software raid.
> Unfortunately the system crashes when I try creating a filesystem on the
> md device.
JFYI, Google reports tons of problems wit
Hi all
I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro AOC-SASLP-MV8
as controller for a software raid.
Unfortunately the system crashes when I try creating a filesystem on the
md device.
Here's the full output of lshw:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=C900cBnN
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