Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-09-08 at 17:46 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > So or so I do not like to use the stuff that SaX tended to put into > xorg.conf even after X.org has learned to configure itself most of the > times. > > The times of inserting mode lines, in the case of SaX usually lots of > modelin

Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-09-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 6. August 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 13:15 -0400, Tom H wrote: > > Somehow, I find your claim that neither OpenSUSE nor Ubuntu will > > start being installed "on most machines" difficult to believe... > > > > My personal experience is that Ubuntu boots and perfor

Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-08-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 13:15 -0400, Tom H wrote: > Somehow, I find your claim that neither OpenSUSE nor Ubuntu will start > being installed "on most machines" difficult to believe... > > My personal experience is that Ubuntu boots and performs well, > including PA, on the three laptops (mine and my

Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-08-06 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 20:13 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: >> >> I have one computer running Debian Sid + systemd + pulseaudio without >> any problems. > > In Germany it was common to test Linux with Suse, today most > people in Germany use Ubu

Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-08-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 5. August 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 21:00 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > But I do use systemd, cause it works nicely for me. > > > > So what? > > And the technical fact that Poettering's stuff does cause issues for > most computer users is unimportant? Y

Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-08-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 20:13 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > On 05.08.2012 15:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > You know why so many people don't use Linux? Linux doesn't run for > > most "stupid" users, but Windows does. It's stuff like pulseaudio > > that is the showstopper. > > I have understood that

Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-08-05 Thread Dom
On 05/08/12 18:13, Mika Suomalainen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05.08.2012 15:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: You know why so many people don't use Linux? Linux doesn't run for most "stupid" users, but Windows does. It's stuff like pulseaudio that is the showstopper. I h

Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-08-05 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05.08.2012 15:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > You know why so many people don't use Linux? Linux doesn't run for > most "stupid" users, but Windows does. It's stuff like pulseaudio > that is the showstopper. I have understood that the problem with most

Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-08-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 21:00 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > But I do use systemd, cause it works nicely for me. > > So what? And the technical fact that Poettering's stuff does cause issues for most computer users is unimportant? You know why so many people don't use Linux? Linux doesn't run f

Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-07-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 25. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > Again, I don't have knowledge about systemd and it seems to have a > advantages, e.g. compared to consolekit, but anyway, there are several > things vague to dummies like me and he already implied a borked sound > server to all major distros or the

Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-07-25 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:44:13 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 16:27 +, Camaleón wrote: >> On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:16:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >> > I can't resist, ban me from the list :D, >> >> (...) >> >> It's not a matter about banning but netiquette and politenes

Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-07-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 16:27 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:16:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > I can't resist, ban me from the list :D, > > (...) > > It's not a matter about banning but netiquette and politeness. > > It is very unfair to speak (criticise?) from a person tha