Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-02-14 Thread Linux-Fan
On 01/21/2015 07:15 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 20 January 2015 19:58:51 Don Armstrong did opine [...] >> If you're still having trouble, the actual logs will be more helpful. >> See >> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-miscel >> laneous > > That is a dece

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 26 January 2015 21:52:35 Bob Proulx did opine And Gene did reply: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I was, I screwed around again last night and set it up again, using > > gparted, until everybody was happy. So now it looks like this: > > > > gene@coyote:~/Downloads$ sudo parted /dev/sdb unit s

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Gene Heskett wrote: > I was, I screwed around again last night and set it up again, using > gparted, until everybody was happy. So now it looks like this: > > gene@coyote:~/Downloads$ sudo parted /dev/sdb unit s print > [sudo] password for gene: > Model: ATA ST1000VX000-1CU1 (scsi) > Disk /dev/

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 24 January 2015 02:17:30 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 23 January 2015 15:41:06 Ric Moore did opine > > And Gene did reply: > > On 01/23/2015 03:09 PM, Dom wrote: > > > On 23/01/15 19:21, Joe wrote: > > >> On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:08:56 -0300 > > >> > > >> Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 23 January 2015 15:41:06 Ric Moore did opine And Gene did reply: > On 01/23/2015 03:09 PM, Dom wrote: > > On 23/01/15 19:21, Joe wrote: > >> On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:08:56 -0300 > >> > >> Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > >>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:46:04 + > >>> > >>> Lisi Reisz wrote:

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 23 January 2015 15:19:48 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: > On Friday 23 January 2015 19:24:45 Gene Heskett wrote: > > You are late to the party Lisi, > > Sorry, Gene. I find you very hard to follow. > > Lisi Sorry Lisi. My arthritic fingers have slowed more than my bra

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/23/2015 03:09 PM, Dom wrote: On 23/01/15 19:21, Joe wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:08:56 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:46:04 + Lisi Reisz wrote: Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985 with now! Hard drives were in sing

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 23 January 2015 19:24:45 Gene Heskett wrote: > You are late to the party Lisi, Sorry, Gene. I find you very hard to follow. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Arch

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Dom
On 23/01/15 19:21, Joe wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:08:56 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:46:04 + Lisi Reisz wrote: Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985 with now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes. More like meg

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Brian
On Fri 23 Jan 2015 at 14:35:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 23 January 2015 14:07:30 Brian did opine > And Gene did reply: > > On Thu 22 Jan 2015 at 22:33:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > The Brother supplied ppd's for my HL-3170CDW color laser do not strip > > > and reformat html tha

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Brian
On Fri 23 Jan 2015 at 14:24:45 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 23 January 2015 13:46:04 Lisi Reisz did opine > And Gene did reply: > > On Friday 23 January 2015 12:42:15 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Not really, I have only been doing it since 1985 or 6. :) > > > > > > > > No do

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 23 January 2015 14:07:30 Brian did opine And Gene did reply: > On Thu 22 Jan 2015 at 22:33:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > The Brother supplied ppd's for my HL-3170CDW color laser do not strip > > and reformat html that well. It does quite well on most web jobs, > > like printing the o

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 23 January 2015 13:46:04 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: > On Friday 23 January 2015 12:42:15 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 23 January 2015 05:47:13 Lisi Reisz did opine > > > > And Gene did reply: > > > On Friday 23 January 2015 03:25:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > You ha

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Joe
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:08:56 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:46:04 + > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly > > compare 1985 with now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes. > > More like meg sizes... > I

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Ron
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:46:04 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985 > with > now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes. More like meg sizes... Cheers, Ron. -- Non omnia possumus omnes.

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Brian
On Fri 23 Jan 2015 at 18:46:04 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 23 January 2015 12:42:15 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 23 January 2015 05:47:13 Lisi Reisz did opine > > > > And Gene did reply: > > > On Friday 23 January 2015 03:25:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > You haven't a clue what yo

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Brian
On Thu 22 Jan 2015 at 22:33:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > The Brother supplied ppd's for my HL-3170CDW color laser do not strip and > reformat html that well. It does quite well on most web jobs, like > printing the order ack when I buy something online, but to do a web page > is asking a bi

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 23 January 2015 12:42:15 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 23 January 2015 05:47:13 Lisi Reisz did opine > > And Gene did reply: > > On Friday 23 January 2015 03:25:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > You haven't a clue what you are doing when you are partitioning, > > > > have you? > > > > > >

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:52:16 Bob Holtzman did opine And Gene did reply: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 01:15:25AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 20 January 2015 19:58:51 Don Armstrong did opine > > > > And Gene did reply: > > > On Tue, 20 Jan 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > and lea

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 23 January 2015 05:47:13 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: > On Friday 23 January 2015 03:25:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > You haven't a clue what you are doing when you are partitioning, > > > have you? > > > > Not really, I have only been doing it since 1985 or 6. :) > > > > N

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 07:26:02PM +, Brian wrote: > On Thu 22 Jan 2015 at 13:31:36 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 22 January 2015 09:42:13 Gary Dale did opine > > > > > > 50G for swap?! > > > > The partitioner that sets this up previously setup a bit over 2x the > > memory, 1

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 23 January 2015 03:25:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > > You haven't a clue what you are doing when you are partitioning, have > > you? > > Not really, I have only been doing it since 1985 or 6. :) >   No doubt long experienced drivers of horse drawn carriages thought that they were well qualif

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:26:02 Brian did opine And Gene did reply: > On Thu 22 Jan 2015 at 13:31:36 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 22 January 2015 09:42:13 Gary Dale did opine > > > > > 50G for swap?! > > > > The partitioner that sets this up previously setup a bit over 2x the >

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 22 January 2015 19:26:02 Brian wrote: > > Removing the boot partition removes the guarantee that boot related files > > will be within reach of the bios.  However, 50Gb is out of line as I have > > been using 1Gb for years, which has all sorts of cruft I haven't used in > > yonks in it.

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 January 2015 01:59:39 Bob Proulx did opine And Gene did reply: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Bob Proulx did opine > > > > And Gene did reply: > > > > Go ahead and install its way, then run an fdisk -l and read the > > > > result, confirmed by quite slow readings from hdparm -tT on the >

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-22 Thread Brian
On Thu 22 Jan 2015 at 12:52:16 -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 01:15:25AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > That is a decent writeup. Whats chances there is a printable .pdf of it > > someplace? > > Why need a pdf? You should be able to print from your browser or from a

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-22 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 01:15:25AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 20 January 2015 19:58:51 Don Armstrong did opine > And Gene did reply: > > On Tue, 20 Jan 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > and leave you with a miss-aligned disk that writes like its full of > > > molsasses. Fdisk complains,

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-22 Thread Brian
On Thu 22 Jan 2015 at 13:31:36 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 22 January 2015 09:42:13 Gary Dale did opine > > > > 50G for swap?! > > The partitioner that sets this up previously setup a bit over 2x the > memory, 18Gb for swap, then surveyed the system and found 2 more swaps, > dutif

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 January 2015 09:42:13 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: > On 21/01/15 08:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 January 2015 16:29:45 Bob Proulx did opine > > > > And Gene did reply: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Bob Proulx did opine > >>> > You seem to believe

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-22 Thread Gary Dale
On 21/01/15 01:09 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 19:17:59 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: On Wednesday 21 January 2015 00:02:41 Gene Heskett wrote: If there is a way, then maybe I'll try it again, but give me step by step I can printout and follow when there is no o

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-22 Thread Gary Dale
On 21/01/15 08:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 21 January 2015 16:29:45 Bob Proulx did opine And Gene did reply: Gene Heskett wrote: Bob Proulx did opine You seem to believe that the Wheezy debian-installer does not handle the new Advanced Format 4k sectors. However I use it all of t

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 19:58:51 Don Armstrong did opine And Gene did reply: > On Tue, 20 Jan 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > > and leave you with a miss-aligned disk that writes like its full of > > molsasses. Fdisk complains, gdisk will fix it, but what good does > > that do you when there is NO W

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 19:17:59 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: > On Wednesday 21 January 2015 00:02:41 Gene Heskett wrote: > > If there is a way, then maybe I'll try it again, but give me step by > > step I can printout and follow when there is no one in the room, or > > available via

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Gene Heskett wrote: > Bob Proulx did opine > And Gene did reply: > > > Go ahead and install its way, then run an fdisk -l and read the > > > result, confirmed by quite slow readings from hdparm -tT on the > > > drive you just installed it to. > > > > What problem are you seeing? Details? I assum

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Dom
On 22/01/15 01:36, Gene Heskett wrote: gene@coyote:~/Downloads$ parted /dev/sdb unit s print WARNING: You are not superuser. Watch out for permissions. Model: ATA ST1000VX000-1CU1 (scsi) Disk /dev/sdb: 1953525168s Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B Partition Table: gpt Number Start

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 16:29:45 Bob Proulx did opine And Gene did reply: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Bob Proulx did opine > > > > > You seem to believe that the Wheezy debian-installer does not > > > handle the new Advanced Format 4k sectors. However I use it all > > > of the time with 4k sec

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gary Dale
On 21/01/15 08:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 21 January 2015 15:40:02 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: On 20/01/15 06:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 13:03:50 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: On 20/01/15 09:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings;

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 15:40:02 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: > On 20/01/15 06:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 20 January 2015 13:03:50 Gary Dale did opine > > > > And Gene did reply: > >> On 20/01/15 09:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetings; > >>> > >>> I just star

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 21:29:45 Bob Proulx wrote: > What problem are you seeing?  Details? PEBCAK, but he won't accept it, so he won't try to understand what to do. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gary Dale
On 21/01/15 04:29 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Bob Proulx did opine You seem to believe that the Wheezy debian-installer does not handle the new Advanced Format 4k sectors. However I use it all of the time with 4k sectors and it works fine. There is no known problem using the Whe

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Gene Heskett wrote: > Bob Proulx did opine > > You seem to believe that the Wheezy debian-installer does not handle > > the new Advanced Format 4k sectors. However I use it all of the time > > with 4k sectors and it works fine. There is no known problem using > > the Wheezy debian-installer to in

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 13:18:25 Bob Proulx did opine And Gene did reply: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Andrew M.A. Cater did opine > > > > > The wheezy installer _ought_ to work with a 4K disk - fdisk will > > > normally work - but ... > > > > It will work, poorly, giving ass-aligned disk that

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Gary Dale
On 20/01/15 06:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 13:03:50 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: On 20/01/15 09:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I just started to do a wheezy 2.8 install on a disk with 4k sectors, this after researching and finding a partitioner utili

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Gene Heskett wrote: > Andrew M.A. Cater did opine > > The wheezy installer _ought_ to work with a 4K disk - fdisk will > > normally work - but ... > > It will work, poorly, giving ass-aligned disk that will be slow, or > slower. You seem to believe that the Wheezy debian-installer does not handl

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-20 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > and leave you with a miss-aligned disk that writes like its full of > molsasses. Fdisk complains, gdisk will fix it, but what good does that > do you when there is NO WAY AROUND the partitioner in the installer. Of course there is. In general, the partit

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 17:45:34 mrr did opine And Gene did reply: > On 20/01/2015 15:40, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > I just started to do a wheezy 2.8 install on a disk with 4k sectors, > > this after researching and finding a partitioner utility that DOES > > know about 4k/sect

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:43:48 Andrew M.A. Cater did opine And Gene did reply: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 01:03:50PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > > On 20/01/15 09:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >Greetings; > > > > > >I just started to do a wheezy 2.8 install on a disk with 4k sectors, > > >this af

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 21 January 2015 00:02:41 Gene Heskett wrote: > If there is a way, then maybe I'll try it again, but give me step by step > I can printout and follow when there is no one in the room, or available > via the net. Since the problem seems to be unique to you, perhaps your installation med

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 13:33:43 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: > On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:37:30 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > I just started to do a wheezy 2.8 > > Doesn't exist. Do you mean 7.8? And which disk? Yeah, sorry girl, but typus are the order when I a

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 13:03:50 Gary Dale did opine And Gene did reply: > On 20/01/15 09:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > I just started to do a wheezy 2.8 install on a disk with 4k sectors, > > this after researching and finding a partitioner utility that DOES > > know about

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-20 Thread mrr
On 20/01/2015 15:40, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I just started to do a wheezy 2.8 install on a disk with 4k sectors, this after researching and finding a partitioner utility that DOES know about 4k/sector disks. That is gdisk. which found the gparted setup and fixed it, all I had to do was

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 01:03:50PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > On 20/01/15 09:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Greetings; > > > >I just started to do a wheezy 2.8 install on a disk with 4k sectors, this > >after researching and finding a partitioner utility that DOES know about > >4k/sector disks. That

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:37:30 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > I just started to do a wheezy 2.8 Doesn't exist. Do you mean 7.8? And which disk? > install on a disk with 4k sectors, this > after researching and finding a partitioner utility that DOES know about > 4k/sector disks. T

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-20 Thread Gary Dale
On 20/01/15 09:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I just started to do a wheezy 2.8 install on a disk with 4k sectors, this after researching and finding a partitioner utility that DOES know about 4k/sector disks. That is gdisk. which found the gparted setup and fixed it, all I had to do was

So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-20 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; I just started to do a wheezy 2.8 install on a disk with 4k sectors, this after researching and finding a partitioner utility that DOES know about 4k/sector disks. That is gdisk. which found the gparted setup and fixed it, all I had to do was write it to the disk., gparted, an old v