Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-24 Thread luizlmarins
On Nov 20, 3:20 pm, Sthu Deus wrote: > Good time of the day. > > I'm concerned on safety of install over network (the netinst) - what > techniques are used to protect the installed system during the very > process of installation? > a single machine connected to the internet: moving to cd /usr/lo

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-23 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Sthu Deus wrote: > > My pondering/suggestions here: > > > > 1. You agree that it is a good thing to be firewalled for the being > > installed system - so in case there is no firewall already for it, then > > it would be still good to have one in the install environment. Not the way

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-23 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 23 November 2011 15:14:40 Curt wrote: > > For static you do something like this: > > > >   iface eth0 inet static > >   address 192.168.1.5 > >   netmask 255.255.255.0 > >   gateway 192.168.1.254 > > And then dhclient is no longer "called," the daemon won't run anymore, > or do I have

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-23 Thread Brian
On Wed 23 Nov 2011 at 15:14:40 +, Curt wrote: > On 2011-11-23, Kelly Clowers wrote: > >> > > For static you do something like this: > > > > iface eth0 inet static > > address 192.168.1.5 > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > gateway 192.168.1.254 > > And then dhclient is no longer "called,"

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-23 Thread Brian
On Wed 23 Nov 2011 at 14:30:31 +, Curt wrote: > Thank you. Is that the default when you install cups, just out of > curiosity? It seems like there was a time when you had to do something > to insure that the daemon wouldn't allow network printing. It's the default. > What about this: > > h

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-23, Kelly Clowers wrote: >> >> I trust the server, I guess; it's my ISP, so I really have to trust >> them way above and beyond whatever dhclient can or cannot do.  I could >> set up a static address for the interface (if I knew how--I do have a >> static address).  Where does that go?

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-23 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 06:30, Curt wrote: > > I trust the server, I guess; it's my ISP, so I really have to trust > them way above and beyond whatever dhclient can or cannot do.  I could > set up a static address for the interface (if I knew how--I do have a > static address).  Where does that go

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-22, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Anyway, read good source. > http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#securing > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html Thank you for the links. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-23, Brian wrote: > > You don't want to run a firewall because it will be of no benefit to > you. The CUPS daemon will only accept print jobs from the machine the > printer is connected to. dhclient is what its name says - a client. It Thank you. Is that the default when you install cu

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-23 Thread Brian
On Wed 23 Nov 2011 at 11:57:57 +, Curt wrote: > einstein:/home/curty# lsof -i > COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME > cupsd1778 root5u IPv6 43230 0t0 TCP localhost:ipp (LISTEN) > cupsd1778 root7u IPv4 43231 0t0 TCP localhost:ipp (LISTEN)

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-22, Sthu Deus wrote: > > My opinion is this: to disable any queries to Your host by iptables > and/or xinit from outside world and then purge the packages You do not > need. > This is a stand alone machine that's not supposed to be offering any services whatsoever to the outside world.

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-23 Thread Brian
On Wed 23 Nov 2011 at 13:50:53 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > My pondering/suggestions here: > > 1. You agree that it is a good thing to be firewalled for the being > installed system - so in case there is no firewall already for it, then > it would be still good to have one in the install environment

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-22 Thread Sthu Deus
Big thanks, Bob, for Your extended answer: >The only external remotely accessible service available in the >installer kernel are ICMP services such as ping. AFAIK. You can ping >the system. Ping is a very useful diagnostic tool and is not >disabled. The network code responding to ping is in th

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Bob. Beside other things You wrote: > > > Plus most people install on a private network behind a firewall from > > the Internet. This protects them from network attacks from the > > Internet. As long as your local private network is not comp

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 04:34:26PM +, Curt wrote: > On 2011-11-21, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > > But seriously, Debian is configured as a quite secure system at any time > > unless you make stupid configuration yourself. So it is quite safe. > > > > Would you be so kind as to explain to me what

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-22 Thread Sthu Deus
Curt wrote: >Would you be so kind as to explain to me what ports/services are >open and listening on a default install of Debian Squeeze (if any) and >if there are any security implications for the novice user or >"hardening" to be performed on a default install (in relation to >listening daemons)

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-22 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Bob. Beside other things You wrote: >Plus most people install on a private network behind a firewall from >the Internet. This protects them from network attacks from the >Internet. As long as your local private network is not compromised Can You explain, What

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-21 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:14:54 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Du, 20 nov 11, 18:10:34, Camaleón wrote: >> >> I've never faced a security problem when installing over the network > > How can you tell? ;) gOOd catCh. (Mmm... what happens with my keyboard? Seems like someone is typing on behalf

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-21 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-21, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > But seriously, Debian is configured as a quite secure system at any time > unless you make stupid configuration yourself. So it is quite safe. > Would you be so kind as to explain to me what ports/services are open and listening on a default install of Debian

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-21 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:13:41AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Good time of the day. > > > I'm concerned on safety of install over network (the netinst) - what > techniques are used to protect the installed system during the very > process of installation? instalation data is transmitted via

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Sthu Deus wrote: > Things I consider are these (during the installation): > . I have working connection Yes. But the simple presence of a network is not a security vulnerability. > . I have at least working kernel and later diver services that are > configured and started during the install Tho

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 20 nov 11, 18:10:34, Camaleón wrote: > > I've never faced a security problem when installing over the network How can you tell? ;) > (Internet) and take no additional countermeasures but ensuring the net > ISO checksum for the image I have downloaded is okay. > > A compromised mirror c

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-20 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: >> I'm concerned on safety of install over network (the netinst) - what >> techniques are used to protect the installed system during the very >> process of installation? > >System is still not installed so what are you afraid of? :-? > >> Or it includ

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-20 Thread Lorenzo Bandieri
2011/11/20 Sthu Deus : > Good time of the day. > > > I'm concerned on safety of install over network (the netinst) - what > techniques are used to protect the installed system during the very > process of installation? > > Or it includes some risk for the install and therefore media (kind of > disk

Re: Safety while network install.

2011-11-20 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 00:13:41 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > I'm concerned on safety of install over network (the netinst) - what > techniques are used to protect the installed system during the very > process of installation? System is still not installed so what are you afraid of? :-? > Or it includ

Safety while network install.

2011-11-20 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time of the day. I'm concerned on safety of install over network (the netinst) - what techniques are used to protect the installed system during the very process of installation? Or it includes some risk for the install and therefore media (kind of disk) is a preferred installation method?