Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-07 Thread Anssi Saari
Noah Sombrero writes: > Specs say 32 mb external video memory, which says to me that it is > shared ram. But limited to 32 mb, so higher resolution should not > cause a problem? 1440*900*4 (assuming 32 bits per pixel) is less than 5 MB so no, shouldn't cause a problem. For sure video RAM is use

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 22:10:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero wrote: >On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 18:00:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero >wrote: > >>On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 17:20:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero >>wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 06:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata >>> wrote: >>> Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-05 22:18

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-06 15:45 (UTC-0400): > It must simply be something about not being able to manage 1440x900 > resolution. It might be worth trying an in between resolution, e.g. 1280x800, which like 1440x900, is a 16:10 mode, unlike 1024x768, which is 4:3. In troubleshooting mod

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 18:00:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero wrote: >On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 17:20:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero >wrote: > >>On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 06:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata >> wrote: >> >>>Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-05 22:18 (UTC-0400): >>> Everything is ok until I load a program of any s

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-06 11:37 (UTC-0400): >>On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 00:50:01 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >>>On all old limited >>>resource systems like this I automatically ease up the load by disabling >>>compositing > How can I do that? >>># cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/70-extensions.conf

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 17:20:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero wrote: >On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 06:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata > wrote: > >>Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-05 22:18 (UTC-0400): >> >>> Everything is ok until I load a program of any size, pan, kmail, >>> thunderbird, worker file manager. Worker immed

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 05:40:01 +0200, David Wright wrote: >On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 13:09:57 (-0400), Noah Sombrero wrote: >> >> Finally, there is a caviat to all this. Laptops many times take a >> piece of motherboard ram for video ram, and larger resolutions take >> more video ram. That while deb

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-06 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 06:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-05 22:18 (UTC-0400): > >> Everything is ok until I load a program of any size, pan, kmail, >> thunderbird, worker file manager. Worker immediately freezes up >> debian. This was not true at 1024x768. > >Us

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-05 22:18 (UTC-0400): > Everything is ok until I load a program of any size, pan, kmail, > thunderbird, worker file manager. Worker immediately freezes up > debian. This was not true at 1024x768. Using which DE or WM? Konsole, Worker & MC are all running fine he

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread David Wright
On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 13:09:57 (-0400), Noah Sombrero wrote: > > Finally, there is a caviat to all this. Laptops many times take a > piece of motherboard ram for video ram, and larger resolutions take > more video ram. That while debian appears to take another piece of > ram for itself in a ramd

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 02:50:01 +0200, Charles Curley wrote: >On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 13:09:57 -0400 >Noah Sombrero wrote: > >> Finally, there is a caviat to all this. Laptops many times take a >> piece of motherboard ram for video ram, and larger resolutions take >> more video ram. That while debian

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 01:50:01 +0200, Brian wrote: >On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 15:43:02 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > >> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 21:20:01 +0200, Brian >> wrote: >> >> >On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 14:23:48 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 20:10:01 +0200, Greg Wooledge >

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 13:09:57 -0400 Noah Sombrero wrote: > Finally, there is a caviat to all this. Laptops many times take a > piece of motherboard ram for video ram, and larger resolutions take > more video ram. That while debian appears to take another piece of > ram for itself in a ramdisk.

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Brian
On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 15:43:02 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 21:20:01 +0200, Brian > wrote: > > >On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 14:23:48 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 20:10:01 +0200, Greg Wooledge > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >I think Arch uses it, and they have

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 21:20:01 +0200, Brian wrote: >On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 14:23:48 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > >> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 20:10:01 +0200, Greg Wooledge >> wrote: >> > >> >I think Arch uses it, and they have an extremely good wiki. Sometimes, >> >searching Google for the answer to a

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Brian
On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 14:23:48 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 20:10:01 +0200, Greg Wooledge > wrote: > > > >I think Arch uses it, and they have an extremely good wiki. Sometimes, > >searching Google for the answer to a Debian question will turn up a > >link to the Arch wiki.

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Brian
On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 14:00:03 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 06:39:45PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 12:51:03 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 12:17:14PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > > > > Yes, thanks, Dan. The issue now is a

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 20:10:01 +0200, Greg Wooledge wrote: >On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 06:39:45PM +0100, Brian wrote: >> On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 12:51:03 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 12:17:14PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: >> > > Yes, thanks, Dan. The issue now is a way t

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 06:39:45PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 12:51:03 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 12:17:14PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > > > Yes, thanks, Dan. The issue now is a way to make the xrandr > > > adjustments permanent. The entry to .xp

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Brian
On Tue 05 Apr 2022 at 12:51:03 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 12:17:14PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > > Yes, thanks, Dan. The issue now is a way to make the xrandr > > adjustments permanent. The entry to .xprofile did not work. Also not > > in .profile. > > To the best

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 18:40:02 +0200, Noah Sombrero wrote: >On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 17:00:01 +0200, Dan Ritter >wrote: > >>Felix Miata wrote: >>> Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 22:59 (UTC-0400): >>> >>> xrandr --newmode "2560x1080" 185.580 2560 2624 2688 2784 1080 1083 1093 >>> -

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 12:17:14PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > Yes, thanks, Dan. The issue now is a way to make the xrandr > adjustments permanent. The entry to .xprofile did not work. Also not > in .profile. To the best of my knowledge, Debian does not use ~/.xprofile when starting a standar

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 17:00:01 +0200, Dan Ritter wrote: >Felix Miata wrote: >> Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 22:59 (UTC-0400): >> >> xrandr --newmode "2560x1080" 185.580 2560 2624 2688 2784 1080 1083 1093 >> -HSync -VSync >> xrandr --addmode HDMI1 "2560x1080" >> xrand

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Felix Miata wrote: > Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 22:59 (UTC-0400): > > xrandr --newmode "2560x1080" 185.580 2560 2624 2688 2784 1080 1083 1093 > -HSync -VSync > xrandr --addmode HDMI1 "2560x1080" > xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode "2560x1080" > > Upthread you indicated

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-05 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 22:59 (UTC-0400): xrandr --newmode "2560x1080" 185.580 2560 2624 2688 2784 1080 1083 1093 -HSync -VSync xrandr --addmode HDMI1 "2560x1080" xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode "2560x1080" Upthread you indicated

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 22:20:01 +0200, The Wanderer wrote: >On 2022-04-04 at 15:40, Noah Sombrero wrote: > >> On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter >> wrote: >> >>>Noah Sombrero wrote: I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-04-04 at 15:40, Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter > wrote: > >>Noah Sombrero wrote: >>> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), >>> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the >>> display is offset to

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2022-04-04 at 15:32 -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter > wrote: > > > Noah Sombrero wrote: > > > I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), > > > yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the > > > dis

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter wrote: >Noah Sombrero wrote: >> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), >> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the >> display is offset to the top and the right. I have not found any >> referenc

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter wrote: >Noah Sombrero wrote: >> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), >> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the >> display is offset to the top and the right. I have not found any >> referenc

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 19:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-03 08:40 (UTC-0400): > >> Thanks. I did find suggestions like this online. But it appears that >> xorg.conf is no longer used, and is indeed missing from xorg.conf.d. >> So I can simply create a new file w

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 12:20 (UTC-0400): >>> 2) must use all_generic_ide. This is suggested as an option by the >>> debian installer in the Special Situations section. >>Was this determination made years ago, or only just now with Debian 11? Some >>installation options are only a

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 17:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 08:09 (UTC-0400): > >> 1024x768 is the highest resolution offered by debian on my laptop. It >> is true that I got better with installations of ms server 2003 and win >> 7. > >When was this discovery fir

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 17:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 08:09 (UTC-0400): > >> 1024x768 is the highest resolution offered by debian on my laptop. It >> is true that I got better with installations of ms server 2003 and win >> 7. > >When was this discovery fir

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-04 08:09 (UTC-0400): > 1024x768 is the highest resolution offered by debian on my laptop. It > is true that I got better with installations of ms server 2003 and win > 7. When was this discovery first made, Debian 11, or some older release? If older release, whi

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 04, 2022 at 09:36:03AM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: [...] > >I suggest to try saving as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf, the > >following, [...] > Tried this, tried to save it. Response is that I do not have > permission to save a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ You've to be ro

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:10:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >I found this: > > >If this matches your laptop, the native display resolution is 1440x900, which >should be what we are shooting to acquire by our

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Dan Ritter
Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 15:10:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero > wrote: > > >On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter > >wrote: > > > >>Noah Sombrero wrote: > >>> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), > >>> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 08:30:01 +0200, "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: >On Sun, Apr 03, 2022 at 09:31:54PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: >> >> I tried to install it with apt-get. >> The response I got asked "Are you root"? No, as I have reported in >> another thread, I don't seem to be able to get a root

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-04 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:10:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >I found this: > > >If this matches your laptop, the native display resolution is 1440x900, which >should be what we are shooting to acquire by our

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Apr 03, 2022 at 09:31:54PM -0400, Noah Sombrero wrote: > > I tried to install it with apt-get. > The response I got asked "Are you root"? No, as I have reported in > another thread, I don't seem to be able to get a root password. > -- > Noah Sombrero > Hi Noah, Did you install the lap

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Felix Miata
I found this: If this matches your laptop, the native display resolution is 1440x900, which should be what we are shooting to acquire by our efforts. If this is not a match, please provide your display

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread David Wright
On Sun 03 Apr 2022 at 20:41:39 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-03 18:04 (UTC-0400): > > > Bash says pastebinit command not found. > # aptitude search pasteb > p pastebinit - command-line pastebin client > # aptitude search hwinfo > p hwinfo

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 02:30:01 +0200, Charles Curley wrote: >On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:04:21 -0400 >Noah Sombrero wrote: > >> Bash says pastebinit command not found. > >charles@ideapc:~$ apt-cache search pastebinit >pastebinit - command-line pastebin client >charles@ideapc:~$ > >Usually diagnostic to

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 02:30:01 +0200, Charles Curley wrote: >On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:15:32 -0400 >Noah Sombrero wrote: > >> Bash says, hwinfo: command not found. > >charles@ideapc:~$ apt-cache search hwinfo >backupninja - lightweight, extensible meta-backup system >forensics-extra - Forensics Envi

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-03 18:04 (UTC-0400): > Bash says pastebinit command not found. # aptitude search pasteb p pastebinit - command-line pastebin client # aptitude search hwinfo p hwinfo - Hardware identification system # apt install

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:04:21 -0400 Noah Sombrero wrote: > Bash says pastebinit command not found. charles@ideapc:~$ apt-cache search pastebinit pastebinit - command-line pastebin client charles@ideapc:~$ Usually diagnostic tools and other programs folks on this list mention are available as a D

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:15:32 -0400 Noah Sombrero wrote: > Bash says, hwinfo: command not found. charles@ideapc:~$ apt-cache search hwinfo backupninja - lightweight, extensible meta-backup system forensics-extra - Forensics Environment - extra console components (metapackage) hwinfo - Hardware i

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 19:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-03 08:40 (UTC-0400): > >> Thanks. I did find suggestions like this online. But it appears that >> xorg.conf is no longer used, and is indeed missing from xorg.conf.d. >> So I can simply create a new file w

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 19:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-03 08:40 (UTC-0400): > >> Thanks. I did find suggestions like this online. But it appears that >> xorg.conf is no longer used, and is indeed missing from xorg.conf.d. >> So I can simply create a new file w

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-03 08:40 (UTC-0400): > Thanks. I did find suggestions like this online. But it appears that > xorg.conf is no longer used, and is indeed missing from xorg.conf.d. > So I can simply create a new file with these entries and put it in > place? /etc/X11/xorg.con* a

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 15:10:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero wrote: >On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter >wrote: > >>Noah Sombrero wrote: >>> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), >>> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the >>> display is

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:20:01 +0200, Dan Ritter wrote: >Noah Sombrero wrote: >> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), >> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the >> display is offset to the top and the right. I have not found any >> referenc

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Noah Sombrero wrote: > I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), > yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the > display is offset to the top and the right. I have not found any > reference on the web that shows how to adjust that, although there ar

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-03 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 03:20:01 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-02 20:35 (UTC-0400): > >> That is the desktop version. Mine is built into my toshiba laptop. >> Go5200 is the laptop version. Nvidia seems to use Go a lot to >> distinguish the difference between desk and

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-02 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-02 20:35 (UTC-0400): > That is the desktop version. Mine is built into my toshiba laptop. > Go5200 is the laptop version. Nvidia seems to use Go a lot to > distinguish the difference between desk and lap and, they do take > different drivers. NVidia may do that

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-02 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 01:00:02 +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-02 17:21 (UTC-0400): > >> I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), >> yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the >> display is offset to the top and the righ

Re: toshiba video problem

2022-04-02 Thread Felix Miata
Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-02 17:21 (UTC-0400): > I installed deb 11.3 on my old toshiba satellite laptop (p25 s509), > yes p4, 1.25 gb ram. It should work, and it does except that the > display is offset to the top and the right. I have not found any > reference on the web that shows how