Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 18 Jun 2014 at 12:05:34 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 18.06.2014 11:24, Brian a écrit : > > > >No getty is ever spawned on tty7 so it is always available for X. > > According to /etc/inittab, but does systemd still use this file? brian@desktop:~$ dpkg -S inittab s

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.06.2014 11:24, Brian a écrit : On Tue 17 Jun 2014 at 23:10:08 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: According to my understanding from the discussions I've read: under systemd, if you run 'startx' with no options from vt1, it will cause X to launch on vt1 - whereas under sysvinit, doing that will

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-18 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Jun 2014 at 23:10:08 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > According to my understanding from the discussions I've read: under > systemd, if you run 'startx' with no options from vt1, it will cause X > to launch on vt1 - whereas under sysvinit, doing that will cause X to > launch on vt7. Not qui

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-17 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/17/2014 10:38 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 06/16/2014 09:43 AM, Brian wrote: >> On the other hand, not running X on the console you started it from >> with startx brings a raft of other problems. > > How so? Unless you are referring specifi

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-17 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 06/16/2014 09:43 AM, Brian wrote: On Tue 17 Jun 2014 at 00:40:14 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:34:58AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Montag, 16. Juni 2014, 10:11:00 schrieb Chris Bannister: I am now using it. I don't like how it starts X in the first availa

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 6/17/14, Brian wrote: > On Mon 16 Jun 2014 at 21:25:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 19:57 +0100, Brian wrote: >> > From the man himself: >> > >> > >> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-May/198927.html >> >> Please don't post links to the troll and Li

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Brian
On Mon 16 Jun 2014 at 21:31:03 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 19:57 +0100, Brian wrote: > > From the man himself: > > > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-May/198927.html > > Please don't post links to the troll and Linux enemy Lennart Poettering. We

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Brian
On Mon 16 Jun 2014 at 21:25:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 19:57 +0100, Brian wrote: > > From the man himself: > > > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-May/198927.html > > Please don't post links to the troll and Linux enemy Lennart Poettering. An

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 19:57 +0100, Brian wrote: > From the man himself: > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-May/198927.html Please don't post links to the troll and Linux enemy Lennart Poettering. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 19:57 +0100, Brian wrote: > From the man himself: > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-May/198927.html Please don't post links to the troll and Linux enemy Lennart Poettering. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Jun 2014 at 06:25:01 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:43:18PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On the other hand, not running X on the console you started it from with > > startx brings a raft of other problems. > > Well, I typed startx in tty4 and it started in tty3

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:43:18PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Jun 2014 at 00:40:14 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Ahh, OK. Must have been reverted. systemd-sysv - Installed: 204-8 > > Candidate: 204-8 Running Jessie. > > > > X running on TTY3 at present, a bit of a pain when switching TTY'

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Jun 2014 at 00:40:14 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:34:58AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Montag, 16. Juni 2014, 10:11:00 schrieb Chris Bannister: > > > I am now using it. I don't like how it starts X in the first available > > > TTY but I guess I'll

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:34:58AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Montag, 16. Juni 2014, 10:11:00 schrieb Chris Bannister: > > I am now using it. I don't like how it starts X in the first available > > TTY but I guess I'll get used to it or spend a few days reading the docs > > and see what

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 16. Juni 2014, 10:11:00 schrieb Chris Bannister: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 03:33:43PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > For the record I am using systemd without any issues, but then I am > > doing so on desktop systems. I just dislike the increasingly monolithic > > architecture of system