On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 09:45:05PM +, Glyn Astill wrote:
> > 'ALL=(ALL) ALL' is no more dangerous than having the 'su' binary
> > available.
> >
> > The NOPASSWD option is not the default.
>
> No. For su they'd have to enter the root password, for sudo su they'd
> just have to enter the passw
On 2009-05-22_18:19:19, dwain wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>
Hi, dwain
I went back in the archives and read your original post. It is pretty
clear to me from that post that you are a single user working on your
own computer. There is no sysadmin to help or
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:19 PM, dwain wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>>
>> > i too was disappointed. i tried su and authentication failed. how do i
>> > update my system without being able to log in as root?
>> >
>> > now i don't mind a spirited discussio
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 07:09:17PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 05:50:28PM -0500, dwain wrote:
> > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, George wrote:
> >
[snip]
>
> A last resort would be:
>
> 1.physically disconnect the box from the network.
> 2.boot a live CD
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > i too was disappointed. i tried su and authentication failed. how do i
> > update my system without being able to log in as root?
> >
> > now i don't mind a spirited discussion on the pros and cons of sudo vs.
> su,
> > but my origina
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 05:50:28PM -0500, dwain wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, George wrote:
>
> > I was a little disappointed being called out on my suggestions in my
> > original post. Obviously the person isn’t a sys admin and from my
> > understanding the whole purpose of sudo is s
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, George wrote:
> I was a little disappointed being called out on my suggestions in my
> original post. Obviously the person isn’t a sys admin and from my
> understanding the whole purpose of sudo is so the user only has root
> privileges for that given command inst
In Friday 22 May 2009, Glyn wrote:
>--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> Glyn Astill wrote:
>> > ALL=(All) ALL is a bad idea.
>>
>> Um, no. With 'ALL=(ALL) ALL' they would still have to
>> type in their
>> password unless they had recently given their
>> credentials. If you want
--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> Subject: Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Friday, 22 May, 2009, 9:20 PM
> In <857394.80354...@web23608.mail.ird.
In <857394.80354...@web23608.mail.ird.yahoo.com>, Glyn Astill wrote:
>--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> It's not equivalent to running as root, since (a) you have
>> to prefix
>> privileged operations with "sudo", (b) you have to re-auth
>> such actions by
>> entering your pass
--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> Subject: Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Friday, 22 May, 2009, 8:14 PM
> In <20090522183807.ga16...@marksh
In <78582fa40905221202r3efedabege566a47c61144...@mail.gmail.com>, S Scharf
wrote:
>On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Shroyer <
>subscriber+deb...@markshroyer.com
>wrote:
>> It *would* be safer to use neither su nor sudo, and only have root log
>> in on a separate, secure console, thereby elim
>From: S Scharf [mailto:ss11...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:03 PM
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)
>On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Shroyer
>wrote:
>It *would* be safer to us
In <20090522183807.ga16...@markshroyer.com>, Mark Shroyer wrote:
>On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:56:18AM -0700, Thorny wrote:
>> You've just advised an obvious newbie (stated in post) on how to make
>> his system insecure. Giving ALL=(All) ALL rights to a normal user is
>> pretty much the same as runni
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Shroyer <
subscriber+deb...@markshroyer.com >wrote:
>
> It *would* be safer to use neither su nor sudo, and only have root log
> in on a separate, secure console, thereby eliminating the possibility of
> password sniffing from a compromised regular account. H
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