Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-18 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jamin W. Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.11.1817 +0100]: > > See my other post. If I then get a friend over who wants to connect > > (legitimally) through wireless but doesn't have IPsec, he won't be > > able to... > > Then take a look at http://nocat.net/ should do what your tryi

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-13 Thread Jeff
martin f krafft, 2003-Jan-13 11:23 +0100: > also sprach Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.12.1953 +0100]: > > Thinking about it, what I described above really isn't a proxy but > > rather an offload of the SSL part of HTTPS. However, the clear text > > HTTP on the backend could then be proxied. I

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-13 Thread Richard Hector
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 01:49, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Richard Hector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.13.1127 +0100]: > > An idea that springs to mind (well, it sprung some time ago, but I had > > no-one to tell it to) is pppoe to your firewall. Then you block all IP > > traffic on the inte

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Richard Hector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.13.1127 +0100]: > An idea that springs to mind (well, it sprung some time ago, but I had > no-one to tell it to) is pppoe to your firewall. Then you block all IP > traffic on the interface talking to the AP (or not even configure IP at > all)

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-13 Thread Richard Hector
On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 11:56, martin f krafft wrote: > i have a cheap-ass wireless access point which doesn't even do > MAC-based authentication, and neither can I get WEP64 to work between > it (Addtron AWS-110) and the Orinoco Silver card. > > I would like to have wireless in my appartment, but I

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.12.1953 +0100]: > Thinking about it, what I described above really isn't a proxy but > rather an offload of the SSL part of HTTPS. However, the clear text > HTTP on the backend could then be proxied. I've not seen this done > though. I know this is p

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-12 Thread iain d broadfoot
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > also sprach iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.11.2115 +0100]: > >Squid is a FTP, HTTP and HTTPS proxy cache. For general > >information on > > "marketing" > > you can't proxy HTTPS, think about it. squid can tunnel it, bu

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-12 Thread Jeff
martin f krafft, 2003-Jan-12 19:27 +0100: > also sprach iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.11.2115 +0100]: > >Squid is a FTP, HTTP and HTTPS proxy cache. For general > >information on > > "marketing" > > you can't proxy HTTPS, think about it. squid can tunnel it, but t

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.11.2115 +0100]: >Squid is a FTP, HTTP and HTTPS proxy cache. For general >information on "marketing" you can't proxy HTTPS, think about it. squid can tunnel it, but that's not more than an circuit level gateway. > i know

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-11 Thread iain d broadfoot
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > also sprach iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.11.0015 +0100]: > > as i understand wireless, there is no solution to blocking clients > > connecting - macs can be faked, ssids are plaintext, wep is crackable > > fairly quickly... > > my phi

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-11 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 12:04:40PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > See my other post. If I then get a friend over who wants to connect > (legitimally) through wireless but doesn't have IPsec, he won't be > able to... Then take a look at http://nocat.net/ should do what your trying. -- Jamin W.

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-11 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeremy T. Bouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.11.0016 +0100]: > Does the AP have anyway to stop broadcasting it's SSID? If it > doesn't broadcast then they would have to know your SSID in order to > make use of your AP... Another idea is if you have a firewall in place > already as

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-11 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Narins, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.11.0043 +0100]: > login to the loginbox (only ssh open to start) then restrict all access to > your IP for the session so the firewall will only let stuff pass while the SSH connection is up. that's an idea... i'll think about it! -- Please

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-11 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jonah Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.10.1935 +0100]: > The best way IMO to secure a small wireless network is with ipsec. You > can do this very easily with freeswan and a good ipsec howto. Just > create a encrypted/authenticated tunnel between your wireless machine > and your r

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-11 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.11.0015 +0100]: > as i understand wireless, there is no solution to blocking clients > connecting - macs can be faked, ssids are plaintext, wep is crackable > fairly quickly... my philosophy: if there's a cracker outside my door capable of

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-11 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jamin W. Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.11.0043 +0100]: > While you can't stop them from connecting to the AP, you can stop > traffic from getting beyond it. Simply attach the AP to a firewalled > system that only allows authenticated VPN clients through it. It's > fairly easy t

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 11:56:13PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > I would like to have wireless in my appartment, but I need to prevent > folks on the street from linking into the network. The question is > how. I want to prevent them from using my internet connection just as > much as accessing l

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-10 Thread Jonah Sherman
MAC-based authentication is a joke. All it takes is for someone to sniff traffic, then clone your mac(ifconfig ethX hw ether [...]). The best way IMO to secure a small wireless network is with ipsec. You can do this very easily with freeswan and a good ipsec howto. Just create a encrypted/authe

RE: restricting wireless access

2003-01-10 Thread Narins, Josh
move to a higher apt sorry, i am very bad if the pun has apt in it what about . . . wireless . . . [wirelesshub]--[loginbox]-internet login to the loginbox (only ssh open to start) then restrict all access to your IP for the session it would take a few scripts -Original Mes

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-10 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 11:15:39PM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: > * martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > I would like to have wireless in my appartment, but I need to > > prevent folks on the street from linking into the network. The > > question is how. I want to prevent them from u

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-10 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
Does the AP have anyway to stop broadcasting it's SSID? If it doesn't broadcast then they would have to know your SSID in order to make use of your AP... Another idea is if you have a firewall in place already as it seems, what are the chances of being able to put a seperate NIC in the fire

Re: restricting wireless access

2003-01-10 Thread iain d broadfoot
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > i have a cheap-ass wireless access point which doesn't even do > MAC-based authentication, and neither can I get WEP64 to work between > it (Addtron AWS-110) and the Orinoco Silver card. > > I would like to have wireless in my appartment, but I need t