Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-13 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 06:41:44PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 03:55:06PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > BTW scratch MAILPATH advice. I've just experimented with it and mutt's > > ignoring it. Seems it only recognises it as a compiled-in default. > > Could you put the first sente

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-12 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:43:16PM +, Colin Watson wrote: | On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:26:57PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: | > Derrick, please forgive me if this question sounds stupid ( I know | > I have to reread a lot of network stuff), but I have the impression | > that the high-availability

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-12 Thread Robert Land
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 03:55:06PM +, Pigeon wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:42:46PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > Good idea, found the setting in login.defs. I did a: > > > > MAIL_DIR/var/spool/mail > > #MAIL_FILE .mail > > MAILFILE/home/rland/muttmail/inbox > > > >

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-12 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:42:46PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 08:07:13PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > > Without knowing the details of your setup, I don't know if you've > > configured it so that nothing ever ends up in /var/spool/mail/rland. I > > think the safest thing to do

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:26:57PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 04:04:32PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > Note that the data stream looks the same, except there is no response > > from the server. The "batched" comes from the intent that the data > > stream will be

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-12 Thread Robert Land
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 04:04:32PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > Note that the data stream looks the same, except there is no response > from the server. The "batched" comes from the intent that the data > stream will be saved and then later fed into an MTA. An example > usage, as Colin

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-11 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 05:12:16PM +, Colin Watson wrote: | On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 09:49:41PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: | > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 02:02:10PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: | > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: | > > | What I'm realy unsure ab

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 07:36:54PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 05:12:16PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > Batched SMTP is a slightly more specialized technique, used when you're > > getting a group of messages from some source other than normal SMTP and > > injecting them int

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-11 Thread Robert Land
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 05:12:16PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > Batched SMTP is a slightly more specialized technique, used when you're > getting a group of messages from some source other than normal SMTP and > injecting them into the mail system all at once. The basic idea is that > you save (i.

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-11 Thread Robert Land
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 08:07:13PM +, Pigeon wrote: > Without knowing the details of your setup, I don't know if you've > configured it so that nothing ever ends up in /var/spool/mail/rland. I > think the safest thing to do is to set MAILPATH to include both > /var/spool/mail and whatever dire

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 09:49:41PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 02:02:10PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > | What I'm realy unsure about is if _all_ mail, even the one > > | sent by the lowlevel 'mail' p

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-11 Thread Robert Land
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 02:02:10PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > | What I'm realy unsure about is if _all_ mail, even the one > | sent by the lowlevel 'mail' program goes through port 25. > > No. Many unix programs use a local

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-10 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 07:10:19PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > Kind thanks for the help. > Sending mail to root imediatly showed up in my mailbox. Yet one thing > puzzles me here: > > The mail to root was in the inbox I had defined in my ~/.forward file. > Contrary to this I have a spool file in /

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-10 Thread Robert Land
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 06:27:04PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 07:10:19PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > By the way, does Mutt 1.4 enable to jump up to previous messages > > (whilest in the pager). The version 1.0.1i only allows me to 'space' > > me downwards in a thread. >

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-10 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > I'm not very experienced with unix/linux and would > appreciate some information on the mail topic. > > I have this one box system, using my general account > 'rland' and sometimes root for system configuration. > > What I would like

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-10 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: | I'm not very experienced with unix/linux and would | appreciate some information on the mail topic. | | I have this one box system, using my general account | 'rland' and sometimes root for system configuration. | | What I would like

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 07:10:19PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > By the way, does Mutt 1.4 enable to jump up to previous messages > (whilest in the pager). The version 1.0.1i only allows me to 'space' > me downwards in a thread. Cursor keys, or vi-style j (down) or k (up). -- Colin Watson

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-10 Thread Robert Land
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 11:47:41AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: > Your understanding is correct. All system mail is sent through port 25, > even stuff generated by the low level programs. In fact, it's more > likely to be the high level stuff (like mozilla mail) that can operate > independently of

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > What I'm realy unsure about is if _all_ mail, even the one > sent by the lowlevel 'mail' program goes through port 25. Might not literally be a TCP connection to port 25, but if not that then it'll be /usr/sbin/sendmail (a link to exim

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-10 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Robert Land said: > I'm not very experienced with unix/linux and would appreciate some > information on the mail topic. > > I have this one box system, using my general account 'rland' and > sometimes root for system configuration. > > What I would like to know is if/

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-10 Thread Paul Mackinney
Robert Land declaimed: > I'm not very experienced with unix/linux and would > appreciate some information on the mail topic. > > I have this one box system, using my general account > 'rland' and sometimes root for system configuration. > > What I would like to know is if/how rland recieves mail