Re: Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny

2011-06-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 09:34:26 -0400, Jack Dodds wrote: > Thanks to those who commented. > > I tried/etc/init.d/networking stop . When this is done, programs > launch without delay. Of course, this makes it impossible for any > program to access the Internet so it's not a solution! Nope, n

Re: Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny

2011-06-04 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-06-04, Jack Dodds wrote: > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) > --enig8C3A295D8BAF91ED98A88B02 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > Thanks to those who commented. > > I tried/etc/init.d/ne

Re: Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny

2011-06-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/04/2011 08:34 AM, Jack Dodds wrote: Thanks to those who commented. I tried/etc/init.d/networking stop . When this is done, programs launch without delay. Of course, this makes it impossible for any program to access the Internet so it's not a solution! However, taking gedit as an

Re: Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny

2011-06-04 Thread Jack Dodds
Thanks to those who commented. I tried/etc/init.d/networking stop . When this is done, programs launch without delay. Of course, this makes it impossible for any program to access the Internet so it's not a solution! However, taking gedit as an example, Normal operation - Internet acces

Re: Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny

2011-06-03 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/03/11 at 10:17pm, Camaleón wrote: > El 2011-06-03 a las 12:53 -0400, Thomas Milne escribió: > > (resending to the list) > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 05:38:23 -0400, Jack Dodds wrote: > > > > > > > I am running Lenny. The system is c

Re: Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny

2011-06-03 Thread Camaleón
El 2011-06-03 a las 12:53 -0400, Thomas Milne escribió: (resending to the list) > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > > On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 05:38:23 -0400, Jack Dodds wrote: > > > > > I am running Lenny. The system is connected to the Internet via a > > > Linksys BEFSR81router

Re: Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny

2011-06-03 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/03/11 at 05:38am, Jack Dodds wrote: > > If the Internet is inaccessible - e.g. if the Ethernet cable is > disconnected from the computer, or the cable modem power is > disconnected, or if there are problems on the provider network - many > GUI programs take a long time (about 60 seconds) to

Re: Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny

2011-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 05:38:23 -0400, Jack Dodds wrote: > I am running Lenny. The system is connected to the Internet via a > Linksys BEFSR81router and a cable modem. My desktop is Gnome. > > If the Internet is inaccessible - e.g. if the Ethernet cable is > disconnected from the computer, or the

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-05-04 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 4/26/06, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rob Benton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The thing about KDE that I've never been a big fan of is their DCOP > system. It takes time to get those processes started. That's not such > a big deal if you use KDE as your environment because that's

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-05-04 Thread seeker5528
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:16:16 +0100 Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool. Do you launch them just by kicking off kdesktop and gnome-panel > somewhere in the openbox config? I run fluxbox and start just about everything extra from my .xsession file and have the option for the fluxbox panel

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 07:08:18PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 11:59 -0500, Rob Benton wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 15:43 -0700, Bill Thompson wrote: > > > > > >>On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:01:39 -0700 > > >>Curtis Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 11:59 -0500, Rob Benton wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 15:43 -0700, Bill Thompson wrote: > > > >>On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:01:39 -0700 > >>Curtis Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > > [snip] > > > >>I just switched to KDE from Gnome on Sid. In

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-26 Thread Miles Bader
Rob Benton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The thing about KDE that I've never been a big fan of is their DCOP > system. It takes time to get those processes started. That's not such > a big deal if you use KDE as your environment because that's loaded once > on startup. But if you use Gnome and w

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-26 Thread Ralph Katz
On 04/26/2006 02:20 PM, Christopher Nelson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 01:16:16PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > >>> Bill Thompson on 25/04/06 23:43, wrote: >> >I have also been playing with running openbox with Gnome and KDE >components (for example, openbox using gnome-panel with kdes

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-26 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 01:16:16PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > Bill Thompson on 25/04/06 23:43, wrote: > >I have also been playing with running openbox with Gnome and KDE > >components (for example, openbox using gnome-panel with kdesktop) which > >uses less resources than any of them, but still has

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-26 Thread Bill Thompson
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:16:16 +0100 Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Thompson on 25/04/06 23:43, wrote: > > I have also been playing with running openbox with Gnome and KDE > > components (for example, openbox using gnome-panel with kdesktop) > > which uses less resources than any of th

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-26 Thread Rob Benton
Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 15:43 -0700, Bill Thompson wrote: On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:01:39 -0700 Curtis Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] I just switched to KDE from Gnome on Sid. In my subjective opinion, Gnome 2.14 runs much faster and with less resources than KDE 5.

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-26 Thread Joris Huizer
Ron Johnson wrote: I suppose that should've been version 2.8 Gotcha. What branch is that, Stable? Sid is at 2.14, and 2.8 is old enough that I didn't believe that anyone is still using it... Uhm yes that's stable (though I don't use gnome myself) (Chances of breakage still make me feel I

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 12:05 +0200, Joris Huizer wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 16:15 -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote: > >>Both desktops have been making huge strides lately in performance and > >>what not. I hadn't used GNOME/KDE in about a year, but I have given the > >>1.8 r

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-26 Thread Adam Hardy
Bill Thompson on 25/04/06 23:43, wrote: I have also been playing with running openbox with Gnome and KDE components (for example, openbox using gnome-panel with kdesktop) which uses less resources than any of them, but still has that "Desktop Environment" convenience. Cool. Do you launch them

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-26 Thread Joris Huizer
Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 16:15 -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote: Both desktops have been making huge strides lately in performance and what not. I hadn't used GNOME/KDE in about a year, but I have given the 1.8 release a whirl and it does seem a lot snappier. Version 1.8? Am I

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 15:43 -0700, Bill Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:01:39 -0700 > Curtis Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > I just switched to KDE from Gnome on Sid. In my subjective opinion, > Gnome 2.14 runs much faster and with less resources than KDE 5.4. > > Howeve

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 16:15 -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 15:01 -0700, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > > I remember sometime at the end of last year reading that KDE uses > > less resources than Gnome. After reading that I had to install linux > > on an older machine f

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-25 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 04:15:39PM -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote: > Hi, > > I still think GNOME/KDE (despite their improvements) are a little bit > too fat for older systems w/out much ram... it's certainly not very > groovy on my old 256M laptop. I generally use openbox, but if you're > looking

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-25 Thread Joris Huizer
Curtis Vaughan wrote: I remember sometime at the end of last year reading that KDE uses less resources than Gnome. After reading that I had to install linux on an older machine for someone, so I put KDE on it. It worked OK. Now I get the latest Linux Journal and they say in there than Gnome

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 03:14:20PM -0700, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > > On 25.04.2006, at 15:11, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > >Curtis Vaughan wrote: > >>I remember sometime at the end of last year reading that KDE uses > >>less > >>resources than Gnome. After reading that I had to install l

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-25 Thread Bill Thompson
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:01:39 -0700 Curtis Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I remember sometime at the end of last year reading that KDE uses > less resources than Gnome. After reading that I had to install linux > on an older machine for someone, so I put KDE on it. It worked OK. > > Now

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Curtis Vaughan wrote: > > On 25.04.2006, at 15:11, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> >> If you are looking for low resource usage, then you want Window Maker >> (my favorite), or fluxbox, or Enlightenment, or XFCE, or IceWM, or any >> of the many other lightweight WMs. >> >> -Roberto > > > No

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-25 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hi, On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 15:01 -0700, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > I remember sometime at the end of last year reading that KDE uses > less resources than Gnome. After reading that I had to install linux > on an older machine for someone, so I put KDE on it. It worked OK. > > Now I get the latest

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-25 Thread Curtis Vaughan
On 25.04.2006, at 15:11, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Curtis Vaughan wrote: I remember sometime at the end of last year reading that KDE uses less resources than Gnome. After reading that I had to install linux on an older machine for someone, so I put KDE on it. It worked OK. Now

Re: Gnome/KDE resources

2006-04-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Curtis Vaughan wrote: > I remember sometime at the end of last year reading that KDE uses less > resources than Gnome. After reading that I had to install linux on an > older machine for someone, so I put KDE on it. It worked OK. > > Now I get the latest Linux Journal and they say in there than

Re: GNOME/KDE in Sarge?

2005-06-09 Thread Cedric BRINER
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:45:33PM +0200, David Mat wrote: > > Just installed sarge, the installer is great. Tthere is an option to > > autodetect your video hardware, so it'll work right away for some harware. > > Hm, that's what I wanted to know. With Woody, installing X didn't > autodetect

Re: GNOME/KDE in Sarge?

2005-06-08 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:45:33PM +0200, David Mat wrote: > Just installed sarge, the installer is great. Tthere is an option to > autodetect your video hardware, so it'll work right away for some harware. Hm, that's what I wanted to know. With Woody, installing X didn't autodetect things prope

Re: GNOME/KDE in Sarge?

2005-06-08 Thread David Mat
On 6/8/05, Jeronimo Pellegrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello.I have to install Linux on one box that I will admin remotely.A few users there will want to use GNOME (or maybe KDE, but it would befine if I install just GNOME). I'll have to make a short trip to install the OS, and would like to do

Re: GNOME/KDE in Sarge?

2005-06-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:18:53AM -0300, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > Hello. > > I have to install Linux on one box that I will admin remotely. > A few users there will want to use GNOME (or maybe KDE, but it would be > fine if I install just GNOME). I'll have to make a short trip to install > th

Re: Gnome & KDE confusions

2003-06-10 Thread L J Laubenheimer
Kent West wrote: [snip] I've seen this sort of behavior, but didn't find the answer 'till after I no longer needed it. I've also seen postings about this sort of thing, and the answers provided have been to add a line to /etc/X11/XXF86Config something to the effect of "swcursor" "on". I don't r

Re: Gnome & KDE confusions

2003-06-10 Thread Kent West
SJ wrote: I have a weird problem that is driving both me and my sysadmi roomie to distraction. Periodically, but on a very erratic basis, while in either gnome-sawfish or kde where the mouse cursor shows to be is not where the system thinks it is when I click on something. For example (ascii

Re: gnome kde conflict

2003-02-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 09:49:27AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > So you're saying that we will have KDE 2 and KDE 3.1 in sid (and, > subsequently, sarge) at the same time? No, we won't. However, the original transition plan [1] specified that the libqt2 dependency chain would remain with the old C

Re: gnome kde conflict

2003-02-05 Thread Craig Dickson
J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > The gcc 3.2 transition (which was announced on debian-devel-announce) isn't > complete yet; KDE2 apparently hasn't been rebuilt against the updated > libraries yet or not all of its dependencies have made the transition > themselves. > > > and is anyone working on it?

Re: gnome kde conflict

2003-02-05 Thread Craig Dickson
Colin Watson wrote: > They have libfam in common too, and that's having problems with the g++ > 3.2 transition: GNOME 2 uses the g++ 3.2 version (libfam0c102) while KDE > 2 uses (and needs to continue using) the g++ 2.95 version (libfam0), and > the two need to conflict. I'm not sure what's being

Re: gnome kde conflict

2003-02-05 Thread Craig Dickson
Bart J. Himel wrote: > I know this has probably already been answered, but I can't find it > anywhere. I installed Debian Unstable on my computer a couple of weeks ago, > but instead of installing Gnome2 it installed 1.4. When I try to use apt to > install nautilus 2, it tells me it needs to rem

Re: gnome kde conflict

2003-02-05 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:22:37 -0500, Bart J. Himel wrote: > I know this has probably already been answered, but I can't find it > anywhere. I installed Debian Unstable on my computer a couple of weeks ago, If you're running unstable and not following the debian-devel-announce and debian-devel

Re: gnome kde conflict

2003-02-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:22:37AM -0500, Bart J. Himel wrote: > I know this has probably already been answered, but I can't find it > anywhere. I installed Debian Unstable on my computer a couple of weeks ago, > but instead of installing Gnome2 it installed 1.4. When I try to use apt to > instal

Re: Gnome - KDE user problems?

2002-11-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 11:29:02AM +0200, DSC Siltec wrote: >Does anybody have an idea about what is destabilizing my system, and > -- more importantly how to reset these things back to "working"? Or are > there files that I can simply transfer from another user's directory to > my own, to re

Re: gnome || kde

2002-10-20 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
Bruce Park wrote: Hello debian users, Can anyone tell me which one of these two desktop is better? I've been using gnome eversince I've been using linux and I am told that KDE is a better desktop by people yet they can't give me a solid reason as to why it is better. bp _

Re: gnome || kde

2002-10-20 Thread Jon-o Addleman
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 08:09:57PM -0400, Bruce Park spake thusly: > Hello debian users, > > Can anyone tell me which one of these two desktop is better? I've been > using gnome eversince I've been using linux and I am told that KDE is a > better desktop by people yet they can't give me a solid

Re: gnome || kde

2002-10-19 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 20:09, Bruce Park wrote: > Hello debian users, > > Can anyone tell me which one of these two desktop is better? I've been using > gnome eversince I've been using linux and I am told that KDE is a better > desktop by people yet they can't give me a solid reason as to why it

RE: gnome || kde

2002-10-19 Thread David Pastern
On Saturday, 19 October 2002 10:09 AM Bruce Park said: >Hello debian users, > >Can anyone tell me which one of these two desktop is better? I've been using >gnome eversince I've been using linux and I am told that KDE is a better >desktop by people yet they can't give me a solid reason as to why

Re: gnome/KDE

2001-06-10 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Phillip Deackes wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:16:40 -0400 > "Margarete Hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What are the advantages/disadvantages of gnome and KDE? Basically, > > which one should I install? > > Depends. We all have our favourite window manager (although KDE

Re: gnome/KDE

2001-06-10 Thread Robert Voigt
On Sunday 10 June 2001 10:22, Phillip Deackes wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:16:40 -0400 > > "Margarete Hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What are the advantages/disadvantages of gnome and KDE? Basically, > > which one should I install? > Obviously, these are personal observations and you will

Re: gnome/KDE

2001-06-10 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:16:40 -0400 "Margarete Hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are the advantages/disadvantages of gnome and KDE? Basically, > which one should I install? Depends. We all have our favourite window manager (although KDE and Gnome are more than window managers, they are more

Re: gnome/KDE

2001-06-10 Thread Roderick Cummings
From: "Margarete Hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: gnome/KDE Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:16:40 -0400 What are the advantages/disadvantages of gnome and KDE? Basically, which one should I install? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: gnome/KDE

2001-06-10 Thread Steve Kieu
I personally dont like kde :-) in my box kde app, the graphic is not good, it has a black or color strips on the window title bar and unstable. Kongquerer crashes with sig 11 ... --- Margarete Hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are the advantages/disadvantages of gnome and > KDE? Basically,

Re: gnome/KDE

2001-06-10 Thread David Nusinow
Oh, as a postscript to what I just said, nothing prevents you from switching later. I was happily in one environment and switched to the other about a month ago. I still like to go and use blackbox every so often too. Flexibility is good :-) - David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gnome/KDE

2001-06-10 Thread David Nusinow
On Saturday 09 June 2001 10:16 pm, Margarete Hans wrote: > What are the advantages/disadvantages of gnome and KDE? Basically, > which one should I install? Oh man... opening the doors to the furnace here... I'd recommend downloading and trying both and deciding which you like then. There are als