Re: Email Problem [Solved]

2024-11-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 07:03:39 -0500 "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: Hello Stephen, >Solved the problem! I accepted the Certificate and the popup went away >and didn't reappear. Good news. Thx for letting us know. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / )

Re: Email Problem

2024-11-28 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
Solved the problem! I accepted the Certificate and the popup went away and didn't reappear. Many thanks. On 11/27/2024 11:23 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:50:33 -0500 "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: Hello Stephen, Where else might the errant string of DNA or RNA be hiding on my

Re: Email Problem

2024-11-28 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-11-27, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > Bookworm and have been using the Epyrus email client for some time now without > any problems. > > Suddenly I am getting a popup that is quite insistent. The popup seems to say that you server has a wrong certificate. Do you look at the certificate epyrus

Re: Email Problem

2024-11-27 Thread George at Clug
Stephen, Can you please provide a bit more detail and your setup. To me the issue maybe DNS record related, but I am not sure. I am guessing mail.stackmail.com certificate has expired or is self-signed? But I am not sure how to check this. Do you use any DNS caching on your computer? Can you t

Re: Email Problem

2024-11-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:50:33 -0500 "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: Hello Stephen, >Where else might the errant string of DNA or RNA be hiding on my >computer? https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=31786 -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "

Re: Email sever and DNS

2024-08-03 Thread Wesley
> https://zytrax.com/books/dns/ > is what I referenced when configuring bind on debian about 4 years ago. > That's a nice reading. > The isc docs were ... not so helpful? Their technical information is > great. ..if you can understand it. They don't do a whole lot of > explaining :( ISC's o

Re: Email sever and DNS

2024-08-03 Thread Lee
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 12:46 AM George at Clug wrote: > > Does anyone have any recommendations on detailed books on Bind9 for > authoritative servers which would also include DNSSEC? https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/dns-and-bind/0596100574/ Years ago, well.. actually, decades ago, reading thi

Re: Email sever and DNS

2024-08-03 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 03-08-2024 at 16:35 Walt E wrote: > BIND is a system as old as internet. > You could read the book ‘DNS and BIND’ by oreily. > > https://www.ubuy.com.gh/product/14R0U15K-dns-and-bind-5th-edition Yes, thanks, that is a great book, I was trying to think of its name since the topics

Re: Email sever and DNS

2024-08-02 Thread Walt E
BIND is a system as old as internet. You could read the book ‘DNS and BIND’ by oreily. https://www.ubuy.com.gh/product/14R0U15K-dns-and-bind-5th-edition Thanks On 2024-08-03 11:27, George at Clug wrote: I pruned my inbox a bit too much. Thanks to who ever it was who recommended it !     I h

Re: Email sever and DNS

2024-08-02 Thread jeremy ardley
On 3/8/24 13:01, George at Clug wrote: Does anyone have any recommendations on detailed books on Bind9 for authoritative servers which would also include DNSSEC? I'm not sure about books but there are many tutorials. The first issue though is that bind directory layout varies between dist

Re: Email sever and DNS

2024-08-02 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 03-08-2024 at 13:27 George at Clug wrote: > I pruned my inbox a bit too much. > > > Thanks to who ever it was who recommended it !     I have placed an > order: > https://www.tiltedwindmillpress.com/product/ryoms-preorder/ > > > When it is released, I will see how useful it is.

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 20:24:32 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >So on the off chance that I had done something in my sleep, I changed >my password, and mail is now downloading. :-) Glad you're going again. TBH, it's a bit rubbish of them to claim you need to pay to get POP/IMAP and t

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 30/7/24 19:49, Brad Rogers wrote: mail.com and (incidentally) gmx.com have both 'required' subscription for pop/imap connection for years. I know - I was surprised when they worked, it must be three years ago. So on the off chance that I had done something in my sleep, I changed my pas

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread erwan
Le 2024-07-30 11:35, Keith Bainbridge a écrit : Good evening All Especially those who were looking for suggestions for an email service provider I have discovered that sometime recently mail.com has disabled pop and imap until you subscribe. In case it may help : a presentation of severa

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Walt E
On 2024-07-30 17:49, Brad Rogers wrote: FYI: GMX & mail.com are both 1&1 companies, hence the more than similar look to their sites(read: they're almost identical). The only pertinent differences are their postal addresses. Germany for GMX and USA for mail. GMX.com is for global. while

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Walt E
On 2024-07-30 17:35, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Good evening All Especially those who were looking for suggestions for an email service provider I have discovered that sometime recently mail.com has disabled pop and imap until you subscribe. A service that appears to be related to mail.com, h

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 7/30/24 à 10:35, Keith Bainbridge a écrit : Good evening All 'Morning! If there is anybody from mail.com on the list   PLEASE  let us know how to overcome your quirks. The world of email quirks is a labyrinth. A good list that has e-mail administrators from around the planet is SDLU (Sp

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 19:35:29 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >I have tried to subscribe to mail.com at their website - to be told mail.com and (incidentally) gmx.com have both 'required' subscription for pop/imap connection for years. I don't pay either of them. I get my mail from

Re: Email sender refusing to send to unknown ca

2023-06-03 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, Tim Woodall wrote: On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 2:20?PM Tim Woodall wrote: Anyone come across delivery failures where the client cert is signed by an internal ca. Are you sure it's not a self-signed end-entity certificate used in an

Re: Email sender refusing to send to unknown ca

2023-06-02 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 2:20?PM Tim Woodall wrote: Anyone come across delivery failures where the client cert is signed by an internal ca. Are you sure it's not a self-signed end-entity certificate used in an Opportunistic Encryption scheme? https://

Re: Email sender refusing to send to unknown ca

2023-06-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 2:20 PM Tim Woodall wrote: > > Anyone come across delivery failures where the client cert is signed by > an internal ca. Are you sure it's not a self-signed end-entity certificate used in an Opportunistic Encryption scheme? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunistic_encryp

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

2023-05-05 Thread didier gaumet
Le 04/05/2023 à 20:21, Jim Popovitch a écrit : [...] Excellent job Debian team! +1 Great. Hats down to Debian folks :-)

Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-05-04 Thread 황병희
2023-04-26 (수), 15:19 +0200, Loris Bennett: > Lionel Élie Mamane writes: > > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:01:53PM +0100, Andre Rodier wrote: > > > > > Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server > > > side IMAP search, please ? > > > > mutt makes a server-side search when

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

2023-05-04 Thread 황병희
2023-05-04 (목), 18:21 +, Jim Popovitch: > On May 4, 2023 6:13:04 PM UTC, Cindy Sue Causey < > butterflyby...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > The security involvement appears to be that one current fix is to > > downgrade which "leaves the user with an unpatched version of > > WebKit". > > > > Cindy

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

2023-05-04 Thread Jim Popovitch
On May 4, 2023 6:13:04 PM UTC, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > >The security involvement appears to be that one current fix is to >downgrade which "leaves the user with an unpatched version of WebKit". > >Cindy :) While that wasn't my intention when I wrote it, I'm happy to see the rush of attention

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

2023-05-04 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2023-05-04 at 20:09 +0200, zithro wrote: > > A recent email from the Debian security team confirms this (Advisory > DSA-5396-2) : > > "The webkit2gtk update released as 5396-1 introduced a compatibility > problem that caused Evolution to display e-mail incorrectly. Evolution > has been u

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

2023-05-04 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 5/4/23, Christoph Pleger wrote: >> > Hello, > >> I have had just the same problem. I think it is caused by the last >> security upgrade by unattended-upgrades of these packages: >> gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 >> gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 >> libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 >> libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 > > Ah,

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

2023-05-04 Thread zithro
On 04 May 2023 17:40, Tixy wrote: On Thu, 2023-05-04 at 12:07 +0200, Christoph Pleger wrote: Hello, I have had just the same problem. I think it is caused by the last security upgrade by unattended-upgrades of these packages: gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 libjavascriptcoreg

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

2023-05-04 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2023-05-04 at 12:07 +0200, Christoph Pleger wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I have had just the same problem. I think it is caused by the last > > security upgrade by unattended-upgrades of these packages: > > gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 > > gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 > > libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

2023-05-04 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
didier gaumet writes: > Le 04/05/2023 à 09:54, Christoph Pleger a écrit : >> Hello, >> suddenly, I have the problem in Evolution Email, that email bodies >> are not shown anymore, but only the headers. >> This affects my private email account as well as my email account >> for work. Maybe I have

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

2023-05-04 Thread Christoph Pleger
> Hello, > I have had just the same problem. I think it is caused by the last > security upgrade by unattended-upgrades of these packages: > gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 > gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 > libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 > libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 Ah, thank you very much for that information. In th

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

2023-05-04 Thread didier gaumet
Le 04/05/2023 à 09:54, Christoph Pleger a écrit : Hello, suddenly, I have the problem in Evolution Email, that email bodies are not shown anymore, but only the headers. This affects my private email account as well as my email account for work. Maybe I have changed some setting, but I cannot r

Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-04-26 Thread Loris Bennett
Lionel Élie Mamane writes: > On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:01:53PM +0100, Andre Rodier wrote: > >> Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server >> side IMAP search, please ? > > mutt makes a server-side search when the search operator starts with > "=" instead of "~"; this also

Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-04-26 Thread Lionel Élie Mamane
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:01:53PM +0100, Andre Rodier wrote: > Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server > side IMAP search, please ? mutt makes a server-side search when the search operator starts with "=" instead of "~"; this also means that it is a string search rather

Re: Email submission.

2023-04-18 Thread David Wright
On Sun 16 Apr 2023 at 10:57:37 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: David Wright > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 22:20:55 -0500 > > And in turn, this reply doesn't contain any feedback to my suggestion > > of installing the backported exim, which claims to support tls on > > connect. > > Ye

Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-04-17 Thread André Rodier
Hi, Byung-Hee. This is definitely not what I asked, and we don't ask for a Gmail advertisement. I don't understand what prompted you to write such an answer, this is a waste of resource and time. Moreover, I have found my answer. Andre. 17 Apr 2023 06:29:12 Byung-Hee HWANG : > Andre Rodier

Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-04-16 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Andre Rodier writes: > On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 17:01 +0100, Andre Rodier wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server >> side IMAP search, please ? >> >> I have an email server that support indexing attachment contents, >> and when I run a query from the c

Re: Email submission.

2023-04-16 Thread peter
In-reply-to: References: <9f8dd61d64d9c253af0fe23b546e6...@easthope.ca> Subject: Re: Email submission. From: David Wright Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 22:20:55 -0500 And in turn, this reply doesn't contain any feedback to my suggestion of installing the backported exim, whic

Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-04-16 Thread Andre Rodier
On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 17:01 +0100, Andre Rodier wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server side IMAP > search, please ? > > I have an email server that support indexing attachment contents, and when I > run a query from the command line using > doveadm se

Re: Email submission. Was Re: https://: vs. https://:.

2023-04-15 Thread David Wright
On Sat 15 Apr 2023 at 09:32:34 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: David Wright > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 22:40:21 -0500 > > I notice that 2096 is often a webmail port. Does that mean you've > > given up on sending emails by their submission port? > > Submitting messages by the Web i

Re: email lacks sender address (SOLVED)

2022-05-08 Thread David Wright
On Sun 08 May 2022 at 19:20:05 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 8 May 2022 19:42:57 -0500 David Wright wrote: > > > I'm really not sure who, and under what circumstances, > > hostnamectl is for. > > Nor am I, especially after this. According to apt-file, it is in the > package systemd. >

Re: email lacks sender address (SOLVED)

2022-05-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 8 May 2022 19:42:57 -0500 David Wright wrote: > I'm really not sure who, and under what circumstances, > hostnamectl is for. Nor am I, especially after this. According to apt-file, it is in the package systemd. > I ran: > > # hostnamectl set-hostname acerx > > and /etc/hostname was ch

Re: email lacks sender address (SOLVED)

2022-05-08 Thread David Wright
On Sun 08 May 2022 at 11:08:08 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 8 May 2022 12:07:00 -0400 > Haines Brown wrote: > > > When I installed the operating systme, the host name some how at a > > numvber appended. I inteded to have nost name lenin, but it ended up > > lenin-16. When I discovre

Re: email lacks sender address (SOLVED)

2022-05-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 8 May 2022 12:07:00 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > When I installed the operating systme, the host name some how at a > numvber appended. I inteded to have nost name lenin, but it ended up > lenin-16. When I discovred that afer installation I corrrected the > host name in /etc/hsots and /e

Re: email lacks sender address (SOLVED)

2022-05-08 Thread Haines Brown
I appreciate tbe rich reponses to my question. I believe I found the answer. Not sure but at least the messages I've been sending now get to ter recipients When I installed the operating systme, the host name some how at a numvber appended. I inteded to have nost name lenin, but it ended up l

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-28 Thread David Wright
On Thu 28 Apr 2022 at 13:13:19 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 12:02:50PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > $ cat /etc/mailname > > acer.corp1 > > $ cat /etc/hosts > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > 127.0.1.1 acer1.corp acer1 > > 192.168.1.14axis.corp axis

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 12:02:50PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > $ cat /etc/mailname > acer.corp1 > $ cat /etc/hosts > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 127.0.1.1 acer1.corp acer1 > 192.168.1.14axis.corp axis > > # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts > ::1

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-28 Thread David Wright
On Thu 28 Apr 2022 at 15:52:00 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 14:57:19 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > The lines which principally concern you/your system are: > > > > 1) The EHLO line, which you typically don't see, is read from > > /etc/mailname by exim, is set to lenin.histomat.n

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-28 Thread Brian
On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 14:57:19 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 08:05:46 (-0400), Haines Brown wrote: > > David. thanks for hanging in with me! > > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 03:23:17PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > > Do you know why mutt is adding a Sender: line to your

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:43:33PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-04-27 11:29:17 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > So if your /etc/mailname contains lenin.histomat.net then mail sent by > > john on your system may(!) have a default(!) from/sender address of > > j...@lenin.histomat.net. Unle

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-27 14:31:51 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Funny thing, though... I'm not sure that /etc/mailname actually does > anything other than sit there looking cute. Reading farther along in > , it says: > > Exim (i.e. exim 3.x) doesn't read /etc/mailname

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-27 15:30:33 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 07:26:31PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 08:05:46 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > > > recipients. This is a permanent error. The f

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-27 13:46:01 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:29:17AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > If what you WANT is for your outgoing mail to appear to come from > > j...@histomat.net then you should have histomat.net in that file instead. > > Thanks for the clarifation. I c

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Haines Brown
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 05:14:34PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:37:28AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > Don't my headers show that I'm using Devuan? Devuan is simply Debian > > without systemd. > > And any bugs they have introduced. We cannot handle support for Devuan

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-27 11:29:17 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > So if your /etc/mailname contains lenin.histomat.net then mail sent by > john on your system may(!) have a default(!) from/sender address of > j...@lenin.histomat.net. Unless it's overridden. > > If what you WANT is for your outgoing mail to ap

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 02:57:19PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > 4) The MAIL FROM address, which is the one that you're having trouble > with. Just to keep everything clear, the MAIL FROM address and the envelope sender address are the same thing. The colloquial use of "sender" (with lowercase s,

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread David Wright
On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 08:05:46 (-0400), Haines Brown wrote: > David. thanks for hanging in with me! > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 03:23:17PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > Do you know why mutt is adding a Sender: line to your emails? > > Did you ask it to, or have you been asked to by someone els

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 07:26:31PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 08:05:46 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: > > This message is from your

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Brian
On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 13:46:01 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:29:17AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > YOU ARE NOT USING DEBIAN SO WE DON'T KNOW! > > I insist that the Devan operating system I use is identical to Debian > except for its lack of systemd. Its installati

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 01:46:01PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > Thanks for the clarifation. I changed it to histomat because I want > outgoing mail to appear to come from hai...@histomat.net. OK! We're making progress now. Funny thing, though... I'm not sure that /etc/mailname actually does any

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Celejar writes: > (... thanks ...) > the problem is that it doesn't verify the > server's SSL certificate, so it's susceptible to a MITM attack by > someone impersonating Gmail. Again, you'll have to judge for yourself > whether this is something to worry about. Now i understood correctly. Thank

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Brian
On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 08:05:46 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: [...] > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: This message is from your smarthost, mail.guardedhost.com. It has attempted to sen

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Haines Brown
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:29:17AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > If what you WANT is for your outgoing mail to appear to come from > j...@histomat.net then you should have histomat.net in that file instead. Thanks for the clarifation. I changed it to histomat because I want outgoing mail to appe

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:37:28AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: Don't my headers show that I'm using Devuan? Devuan is simply Debian without systemd. And any bugs they have introduced. We cannot handle support for Devuan because we are not responsible for what they release. -- Please do not CC m

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Brian
On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 11:29:17 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:05:20AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: [...] > > In /etc/hosts I have the line: > > > > 127.0.1.1 lenin.histomat.net lenin > > Irrelevant, except insofar as it verifies that you correctly typed yo

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Haines Brown
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 05:13:51PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-04-25 11:39:01 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > Incidentally, I get > > > > $ hostname -A > > lenin-16.home > > > > that's strange. Should be lenin.histomat.net > > About this point, you should not use "hostname -A", b

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:05:20AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > If mailname (the value of /etc/mailname) is supposed to be my FQDN, > then that would be lenin.histomat.net > > $ hostname -f > lenin.histomat.net > > $ nano /etc/mailname > lenin.histomat.net

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:04:06 +0900 Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > Dear Celejar, > > Celejar writes: > > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 09:42:38 +0900 > > 황병희 wrote: > > > >> Dear Greg, > >> > >> Greg Wooledge writes: > >> > >> > (... thanks ...) > >> > unicorn:~$ apt-cache show ssmtp ... > >> Really i

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Haines Brown
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:52:07AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:46:53AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > In exim4 condiguration I select smarthost. > > Is your smarthost "mail.guardedhost.com"? I don't understand. I thought the question in exim configuration referred to

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-25 11:39:01 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > Incidentally, I get > > $ hostname -A > lenin-16.home > > that's strange. Should be lenin.histomat.net About this point, you should not use "hostname -A", but "hostname -f" (or "hostname --fqdn"). The -A option will just give you the FQDN

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Haines Brown
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 03:31:05PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 15:38:21 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 01:42:05PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > lenin.histomat.net appears to be unrouteable. How a remote system would > >

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:46:53AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > In exim4 condiguration I select smarthost. Is your smarthost "mail.guardedhost.com"? > So did you mean the > recipient mail server must use smarthost? That's total nonsense. A smarthost is for relaying your outgoing mail.

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Haines Brown
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 04:26:09PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-04-27 09:36:22 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 01:42:05PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 08:05:46 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > Thanks for the clarification. > > > > > > These valu

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Haines Brown
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 08:28:27AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 08:05:46AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > If I understand correctly, which is always in serious doubt, it is > > exim that constructs the Sender: line by combining /etc/mailname and > > $LOCALHOST. Is this so

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Brian
On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 15:38:21 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 01:42:05PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > lenin.histomat.net appears to be unrouteable. How a remote system would >^^^ > > deal with that is anyone's guess. >

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-27 09:36:22 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 01:42:05PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 08:05:46 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > > > If I understand correctly, which is always in serious doubt, it is > > > exim that constructs the Sender: line by combin

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-27 08:05:46 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > If I understand correctly, which is always in serious doubt, it is > exim that constructs the Sender: line by combining /etc/mailname and > $LOCALHOST. Is this so? On my machine that uses exim (used to send this mail), exim does not add a "Send

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 01:42:05PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > lenin.histomat.net appears to be unrouteable. How a remote system would ^^^ > deal with that is anyone's guess. unresolvable (i.e. there's no (MX) DNS record "out there" for it) is what you

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Haines Brown
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 01:42:05PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 08:05:46 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > If I understand correctly, which is always in serious doubt, it is > > exim that constructs the Sender: line by combining /etc/mailname and > > $LOCALHOST. Is this so? > > No.

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Brian
On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 08:05:46 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > David. thanks for hanging in with me! > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 03:23:17PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > Do you know why mutt is adding a Sender: line to your emails? > > Did you ask it to, or have you been asked to by someone else

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 08:05:46AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > If I understand correctly, which is always in serious doubt, it is > exim that constructs the Sender: line by combining /etc/mailname and > $LOCALHOST. Is this so? > > These values are present: > > $ nano /etec/mailname > lenin

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Haines Brown
David. thanks for hanging in with me! On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 03:23:17PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > Do you know why mutt is adding a Sender: line to your emails? > Did you ask it to, or have you been asked to by someone else? No, I didn't ask mutt to add a Sender: line and I do not know what

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-27 09:19:38 -, Curt wrote: > On 2022-04-26, David Wright wrote: > > Well, the simple way, which is why I use it, is to put: > > > > set envelope_from_address="someuser@somedomain" > > set use_envelope_from > > The OP sent me an email off-list in which he informed me he was doin

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-27 Thread Curt
On 2022-04-26, David Wright wrote: > > Well, the simple way, which is why I use it, is to put: > > set envelope_from_address="someuser@somedomain" > set use_envelope_from The OP sent me an email off-list in which he informed me he was doing his best and that he'd changed *both* of the followi

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
> Both Gmail and yw-1204 > does not break about this matter (verify certificate). Correction: Exactly, i did't see any problems. Because i have been using always self-signed certficate with sSMTP. Sorry for confusing statement. Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee -- ^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Dear Celejar, Celejar writes: > On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 09:42:38 +0900 > 황병희 wrote: > >> Dear Greg, >> >> Greg Wooledge writes: >> >> > (... thanks ...) >> > unicorn:~$ apt-cache show ssmtp >> > [...] >> > Description-en: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to >> > a mail hub >> > A

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread David Wright
On Tue 26 Apr 2022 at 09:25:48 (-0400), Haines Brown wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:10:48AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:39:01AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > > I infer that exim is not being given the envelop address of the > > > sender. > > > > Quoting /etc

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 09:42:38 +0900 황병희 wrote: > Dear Greg, > > Greg Wooledge writes: > > > (... thanks ...) > > unicorn:~$ apt-cache show ssmtp > > [...] > > Description-en: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail > > hub > > A secure, effective and simple way of getting ma

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Curt
On 2022-04-26, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-04-24 23:30:34 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: >> I placed these two lines in ~./muttrc/muttrc >> >> set envelope_from_address=hai...@histomat.net >> set use_envelope_from=hai...@histomat.net >> >> but still get 521 5.5.1 Protocol error om outgoing

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-24 23:30:34 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > I placed these two lines in ~./muttrc/muttrc > > set envelope_from_address=hai...@histomat.net > set use_envelope_from=hai...@histomat.net > > but still get 521 5.5.1 Protocol error om outgoing messages. Note that use_envelope_from is a boo

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-26 09:25:48 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > What I get out of this is that my MUA (mutt) might generate a message > that lacks a local account name (I assume it is defined by the content > of /etc/mailname, whicn in my case happens to be lenin.histomat.net). No, /etc/mailname is just th

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Haines Brown
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:10:48AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:39:01AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > I infer that exim is not being given the envelop address of the > > sender. > > Quoting /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template: > > # By default, exim forces a Sender: hea

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:39:01AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: I infer that exim is not being given the envelop address of the sender. Quoting /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template: # By default, exim forces a Sender: header containing the local # account name at the local host name in all locally sub

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-25 Thread 황병희
Dear Greg, Greg Wooledge writes: > (... thanks ...) > unicorn:~$ apt-cache show ssmtp > [...] > Description-en: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub > A secure, effective and simple way of getting mail off a system to your > mail hub. It contains no suid-binaries or ot

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-25 Thread Haines Brown
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 05:52:48PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 11:39:01 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > > 2022-04-24 10:44:02 1nidSz-00068k-QP rejected from <> U=Debian-exim: > > message to> > > Envelope-from: <> > > Envelope-to: > > > > I infer that exim is not being given the e

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-25 Thread Brian
On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 11:39:01 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > 2022-04-24 10:44:02 1nidSz-00068k-QP rejected from <> U=Debian-exim: message > to> > Envelope-from: <> > Envelope-to: > > I infer that exim is not being given the envelop address of the > sender. What do have in /etc/mailname? --

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-25 Thread David Wright
On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 11:39:01 (-0400), Haines Brown wrote: > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 11:31:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > You need to look¹ at exim's logs (/var/log/exim4/mainlog, > > /var/log/exim4/mainlog.1 and /var/log/exim4/mainlog.*.gz) > > to see what it's trying to send. There sho

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-25 Thread Haines Brown
On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 11:31:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > You need to look¹ at exim's logs (/var/log/exim4/mainlog, > /var/log/exim4/mainlog.1 and /var/log/exim4/mainlog.*.gz) > to see what it's trying to send. There should be a line > where mutt hands your email to exim > > DATE TIME UNIQ

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-25 Thread David Wright
On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 10:24:18 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 09:18:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 12:04:55 (-), Curt wrote: > > > I thought 'set use_envelope_from' took a boolean value (yes or no). > > > > Good proofreading, thanks. The fac

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-25 Thread Haines Brown
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 09:18:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 12:04:55 (-), Curt wrote: > > On 2022-04-25, Haines Brown wrote: > > > > > > I placed these two lines in ~./muttrc/muttrc > > > > > > set envelope_from_address=hai...@histomat.net > > > set use_envelope_f

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