On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:34:36 -0700
> Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
>> >> DBus isn't a problem per se, it just can cause issues, when implemented
>> >> without thinking about the needs of all users?
>> >
>> > Right but it's actually much worse than
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:34:36 -0700
Kelly Clowers wrote:
> >> DBus isn't a problem per se, it just can cause issues, when implemented
> >> without thinking about the needs of all users?
> >
> > Right but it's actually much worse than that. Take mozilla firefox even
> > which may or may not have b
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
>> DBus isn't a problem per se, it just can cause issues, when implemented
>> without thinking about the needs of all users?
>
> Right but it's actually much worse than that. Take mozilla firefox even
> which may or may not have been changed
Le 13/04/2013 19:39, Kevin Chadwick a écrit :
DBus isn't a problem per se, it just can cause issues, when implemented
without thinking about the needs of all users?
Right but it's actually much worse than that. Take mozilla firefox even
which may or may not have been changed due to me bringing i
> DBus isn't a problem per se, it just can cause issues, when implemented
> without thinking about the needs of all users?
Right but it's actually much worse than that. Take mozilla firefox even
which may or may not have been changed due to me bringing it up on the
dev-security list. Without dbus
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 22:59 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> What I really don't get though is why there are so many
> easily avoidable hard dependencies.
+1
We can see what projects come with the most hilarious dependencies and
that's why we should avoid EMONG, or similar, have forgotten the name.
Too funny, under the jokes is one, asking to merge it with dbus.
"Udev and systemd to merge
Posted Apr 3, 2012 22:31 UTC
Next step is of course to integrate D-Bus in systemd, no?"
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 09:32 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> https://lwn.net/Articles/490413/
I don't know if systemd and u
> D-Bus is good overall...
The good thing about standard IPC was that you would have to develop
the protocol etc.. which means if your app used it.
1./ You needed to use it otherwise you wouldn't.
2./ You made an app specific mechanism (very good if your good but
could be bad, the latter is what
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 09:20:15PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> OT regarding to dbus:
>
> I wrote:
> > For other
> > stuff package maintainers have to do a hard job, somebody seemingly does
> > extract udev from systemd for Debian. I'm on a distro that follows
> > upstream and there were many issu
OT regarding to dbus:
I wrote:
> For other
> stuff package maintainers have to do a hard job, somebody seemingly does
> extract udev from systemd for Debian. I'm on a distro that follows
> upstream and there were many issues when they switched to systemd.
http://packages.debian.org/search?keyword
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:47 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> D-Bus is good overall... There could definitely be improvements in
> remote connections though. I think there are workarounds... [snip]
DBus isn't an issue for applications you'll use with a desktop
environment, when those apps should commu
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Joel Roth wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
>> > Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> > > > dbus often is a PITA!
>> > >
>> > > Do you have experience with dbus's predec
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > > dbus often is a PITA!
> > >
> > > Do you have experience with dbus's predecessors, such as
> > > CORBA?
> >
> > No. I guess a prede
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:33 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> WHen reporting erreor messages when emacs-gtk from a ssh -X session, I
> was told that "it's normal that it won't work since it uses dbus". Since
> then I have a bad feeling with dbus dependencies which seem to reduce
> the capabilities of
Le 09/04/2013 19:29, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
dbus often is a PITA!
Do you have experience with dbus's predecessors, such as
CORBA?
No. I guess a predecessor won't help, if applications depend on dbus,
such as jackd/jackd
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > dbus often is a PITA!
> >
> > Do you have experience with dbus's predecessors, such as
> > CORBA?
>
> No. I guess a predecessor won't help, if applications dep
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