On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 06:14:24PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> not at all, i meant that the non-standard redhat-ism of moving
> /etc/init.d to /etc/rc.d/init.d along with the /etc/rc[0-6].d
> directories to /etc/rc.d is lame.
Looks like you got your wish. Seems like the next version of RedHat
(
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 05:18:38PM +0200, Stefan Nobis wrote:
> What's the problem? All scripts goes in /etc/init.d and in /etc/rc?.d
> are Symlinks. This way it's also done by RedHat, but they do it in
> /etc/rc.d/init.d and /etc/rc.d/rc?.d (IIRC).
It's not a major problem, and certainly not a
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 07:36:53PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Some drivers "probe" for their hardware by attempting to access various
> ports. In a few pathological cases, the probing by one driver will put
> hardware belonging to another into a state that crashes or locks up the
> system. This
"John L. Fjellstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> it doesn't matter if you have it compiled/installed. modprobe will
> automagically load it into memory when you need it. Not sure why
> the installation said you could damage(?)/mess up the installation
> if you installed a module for a hardware
I was the originator of the ms-chat/ms-chap error. I was told about it
in a phone call with my UNIX help desk. At any rate, can anyone tell me
how to get it running on a potato machine? I see the chap-secrets file.
Is chap actually ms-chap?
--
Arthur H. Edwards
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Abq. NM 87108
"John L. Fjellstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm a current RedHat user (started with Linux on RedHat because it was
> available at Fry's), and I'm currently evaluating Debian for a
> possible switch.
>
> Can anyone come up with a list of advantages of using Debian Linux
> over Redhat Linux?
: montefin; John L. Fjellstad
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian
>
> Incredible :)
> - Original Message -
> From: "montefin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "John L. Fjellstad" <[
Olaf Meeuwissen writes:
> Don't know about damaging or messing anything up, but certain modules may
> have to loaded during the boot.
Some drivers "probe" for their hardware by attempting to access various
ports. In a few pathological cases, the probing by one driver will put
hardware belonging t
"John L. Fjellstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And dselect is a really interesting utility, especially the ability
> to configure the packages after installation.
You can do that even _before_ installation now with potato for many
packages.
> The only thing during installation that was kind o
Quoth Peter Palfrader,
> If we're talking about MS Chap 80, then I can say that in fact it does
> work. I needed it one or two years ago. SuSE 5.3 did not have that
> support built in, but Debian had.
Truth be told, I didn't really try all that hard to get it working.
Rather than find a technica
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Damon Muller wrote:
> I think you mean ms-chap, not ms-chat. Debian does seem to have ms-chap
> already built-in to it's pppd
> Of course, I've never got it working myself, but that doesn't mean it
> isn't there :)
If we're talking about MS Chap 80, then I can say that in fa
On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 04:56:18PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> like he said, Debian's filesystem organiazation is superior.
> /etc/rc.d/* sucks. i very much prefer the saved typing when starting
> stopping services that debian has ie: /etc/init.d/foo stop instead of
> the unnecessarily verbose
Quoth Arthur H. Edwards,
> I am a very happy convert from Red Hat via SuSE to Debian. I will give
> you two disadvantages that spawn others. The release dates are
> infrequent. Also, IMHO, the current religious war over the meaning of
> Free is not serving the user base. It is apparently serving
On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 06:36:56PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Debian, as I soon found out, has a single-disk installation program and a
> > five-disk installation set, which included ppp support and the ability to
> > install from a network connection. Everything past th
ferret,
First, with a nick like 'ferret' why do I trust you?
Second, OK, proceeding at my own risk, I...
apt-get install file-rc
Now yes, there suddenly exists a file called...
/etc/runlevel.conf
There wasn't before. I checked. I am not that trusting, especially of
self-proclaimed ferrets.
I
On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 07:07:31PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Perhaps you meant the symlink farm of /etc/rc?.d/[SK]??*
not at all, i meant that the non-standard redhat-ism of moving
/etc/init.d to /etc/rc.d/init.d along with the /etc/rc[0-6].d
directories to /etc/rc.d is lame.
> apt-ge
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 05:16:55PM -0700, John L. Fjellstad wrote:
> > > 4. The organization of the file system in Debian is superior,
> >
> > I don't know, still getting used to it. What I really liked from
> > RedHat is that they moved all the start
On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 05:16:55PM -0700, John L. Fjellstad wrote:
> > 4. The organization of the file system in Debian is superior,
>
> I don't know, still getting used to it. What I really liked from
> RedHat is that they moved all the startup files into a subdirectory
> of /etc/rc.d. Debian (
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 02:35:11PM -0400, Michael Soulier wrote:
> Well, Debian doesn't typically install as easily as RedHat.
Actually, I installed Debian on a vmware virtual disk, and didn't really
have any problems. In fact, found the disk partitioning utility much
easier to use than
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 12:23:12PM -0600, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> First up the only weekness I've found. If you're running
> "stable" you may be a bit behind other distributions. Stable
This isn't really a problem. Even RedHat, with 6 months between
version, is behind my system most of the t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Debian, as I soon found out, has a single-disk installation program and a
> five-disk installation set, which included ppp support and the ability to
> install from a network connection. Everything past that point was just
> icing on the proverbial cake.
"Single-disk ins
I am a very happy convert from Red Hat via SuSE to Debian. I will give
you
two disadvantages that spawn others. The release dates are infrequent.
Also, IMHO, the current religious war over the meaning of Free is not
serving the user base. It is apparently serving some of the more devout
developers.
Here's my 2 cents. This happened years and years ago, back in the days
when the world was still Slackware, Red Hat was version 3, and Debian was
bo.
I had a little 486 system with a couple small IDE hard drives. One day my
root inode disappears off my / partition. I have a shoebox full of
Slackwa
Folks,
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 11:17:58PM +, montefin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Still, when friends ask me about 'this thing called Linux', I recommend
> they go out and buy the latest Red Hat boxed CD set; try Linux; and, if
> they like it and want to get serious, switch to Debian, Slackw
Incredible :)
- Original Message -
From: "montefin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John L. Fjellstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian
>
> "In a galaxy far away, John L. F
"In a galaxy far away, John L. Fjellstad" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm a current RedHat user (started with Linux on RedHat because
> it was available at Fry's), and I'm currently evaluating
> Debian for a possible switch.
>
> Can anyone come up with a list of advantages of using Debian
> Linux over
On 28 Jul, Bolan Meek wrote:
> Oh, I almost forgot to mention: I feel that Debian's commitment
> to Freedom in Software is stronger than that of RedHat, and that
> is another advantage of Debian, but that's a
> religious/political/ethical issue that maybe ought not be brought
> up just yet.
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, John L. Fjellstad wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a current RedHat user (started with Linux on RedHat because
> it was available at Fry's), and I'm currently evaluating
> Debian for a possible switch.
>
> Can anyone come up with a list of advantages of using Debian
> Linux over Redhat
"John L. Fjellstad" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm a current RedHat user (started with Linux on RedHat because
> it was available at Fry's), and I'm currently evaluating
> Debian for a possible switch.
>
> Can anyone come up with a list of advantages of using Debian
> Linux over Redhat Linux?
I chose
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, John L. Fjellstad wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a current RedHat user (started with Linux on RedHat because
> it was available at Fry's), and I'm currently evaluating
> Debian for a possible switch.
>
> Can anyone come up with a list of advantages of using Debian
> Linux over Redhat
I did the same a while back. i've swiched all my boxes
so far.
First up the only weekness I've found. If you're running
"stable" you may be a bit behind other distributions. Stable
doesn't mean "hey, it worked fine for me". Stable means its
been very thouroughly tested and done right. This
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