On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 02:58:39 +0100
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
>
> Le 26.10.2013 13:37, Reco a écrit :
> > You don't need w3c validator if you have browser compatibility list.
> > This is the way this industry work - you don't have browser they like
> > - you don't use their product.
Le 26.10.2013 13:37, Reco a écrit :
> SunFire X-series ILOM web-interface, for example. Unusable in
opera.
> IBM's HMC web-interface. Unusable in opera.
> Anything based on Oracle's ADF will get you one big 'you're not
> welcome
> here, boo' if you use opera.
> Sadly, some of us need to use br
On Sun, 2013-10-27 at 04:29 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> People that like to put other people in categories, and those who
> don't.
:)
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:20:06AM +0200, François Patte wrote:
> Le 26/10/2013 08:02, Chris Bannister a écrit :
> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 05:56:17PM +0200, François Patte wrote:
> >> Bonjour,
> >>
> >> I needed to install acroread and I did from deb-multimedia repo. No
> >
> > We cannot help wi
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:07:17PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 12:00 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> > About the fact that adobe should maintain their products... I can only
> > agree.
>
> That's the whole point. Other distros and Debian give you and me the
> l
Hi.
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 19:15:28 +0530
Kailash wrote:
> To convert a PowerPoint presentation with embedded multimedia to PDF
> would be one example.
Thank you for the idea. Such presentation is an invaluable tool for
dissolving audience attention completely.
There's just thing I can not get ye
> why produce PDF with such
> capabilities.
>
> Reco
>
>
To convert a PowerPoint presentation with embedded multimedia to PDF
would be one example.
K.
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> > SunFire X-series ILOM web-interface, for example. Unusable in opera.
> > IBM's HMC web-interface. Unusable in opera.
> > Anything based on Oracle's ADF will get you one big 'you're not
> > welcome
> > here, boo' if you use opera.
> > Sadly, some of us need to use browsers to do work, not to su
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:31:27 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> "Wrap your lines at 80 characters or less for ordinary discussion. Lines
> longer than 80 characters are acceptable for computer-generated output
> (e.g., ls -l)." - http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/
>
> I suspect most MUAs wrap at 72 c
Le 26.10.2013 12:43, Reco a écrit :
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:18:44 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
At the time I switched, there was a far better support for SVG in
opera. 3 years ago. It was the only browser able to render html into
svg, which is standard.
Hmm. Probably you have a
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:24 +0400, Reco wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:19:43 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:08 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mesa-diverted/i386-linux-gnu/:
> > > $LD_LIBRARY_PATH # Should be one line
> >
> > The mailing list
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:19:43 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:08 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mesa-diverted/i386-linux-gnu/:
> > $LD_LIBRARY_PATH # Should be one line
>
> The mailing list policy allows to make code one line, even if it should
> be to
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:16:47 +0300
Georgi Naplatanov wrote:
> On 10/26/2013 01:01 PM, Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:41:57 +0200
> > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> >
> >> No free alternative can allow me to use things
> >> the way I want: firefox lacks lot of feature
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:08 +0400, Reco wrote:
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mesa-diverted/i386-linux-gnu/:
> $LD_LIBRARY_PATH # Should be one line
The mailing list policy allows to make code one line, even if it should
be to much chars :).
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mesa-diverted/i386-l
On 10/26/2013 01:01 PM, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:41:57 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
No free alternative can allow me to use things
the way I want: firefox lacks lot of features opera have, gnash is just
useless in practice for streaming, nouveau does not give me f
Hi.
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:25:43 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> I wonder if you can "edit" the executable to change the path, with
> tools like ldconfig. Never used them, but maybe someone here will know.
Have you tried to do it like this?
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mesa-di
On Sat 26 Oct 2013 at 11:25:43 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Le 26.10.2013 10:35, François Patte a écrit :
> >
> >And here is the solution (for those who could need some pdf features
> >which are not supported by evince, xpdf..., but which can be produced
> >using free soft like Te
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:18:44 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> At the time I switched, there was a far better support for SVG in
> opera. 3 years ago. It was the only browser able to render html into
> svg, which is standard.
Hmm. Probably you have a valid point here. While usecase o
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 12:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 12:00 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> > About the fact that adobe should maintain their products... I can only
> > agree.
>
> That's the whole point. Other distros and Debian give you and me the
> libre to
Le 26.10.2013 12:01, Reco a écrit :
Hi.
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:41:57 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
No free alternative can allow me to use things
the way I want: firefox lacks lot of features opera have, gnash is
just
useless in practice for streaming, nouveau does not give me
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 12:00 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> About the fact that adobe should maintain their products... I can only
> agree.
That's the whole point. Other distros and Debian give you and me the
libre to use proprietary, restricted software. We sometimes need it and
we
Hi.
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:41:57 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> No free alternative can allow me to use things
> the way I want: firefox lacks lot of features opera have, gnash is just
> useless in practice for streaming, nouveau does not give me full 3D
> acceleration, and ther
Le 26.10.2013 11:47, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 11:41 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 26.10.2013 11:30, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
> There's a German song called "Ein bisschen Frieden" (A little bit
of
> peace). There isn't something like a little bit of peace,
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 11:41 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
> Le 26.10.2013 11:30, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
> > There's a German song called "Ein bisschen Frieden" (A little bit of
> > peace). There isn't something like a little bit of peace, a little
> > bit
> > of libre. You can't b
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 11:38 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 11:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Hi François,
> >
> > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 10:20 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> > > But there are two kinds of people using free softwares, some are not
> > > living on the moon and
Le 26.10.2013 11:30, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
There's a German song called "Ein bisschen Frieden" (A little bit of
peace). There isn't something like a little bit of peace, a little
bit
of libre. You can't be a little bit pregnant.
Note that, in practice, the non-libre software flash plugin,
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 11:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Hi François,
>
> On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 10:20 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> > But there are two kinds of people using free softwares, some are not
> > living on the moon and have to deal with the world as it is and try
> > their best to be a
Hi François,
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 10:20 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> But there are two kinds of people using free softwares, some are not
> living on the moon and have to deal with the world as it is and try
> their best to be as "free" as they can, others seem to belong to the
> world of ayato
Le 26.10.2013 10:35, François Patte a écrit :
Le 26/10/2013 08:02, Chris Bannister a écrit :
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 05:56:17PM +0200, François Patte wrote:
Bonjour,
I needed to install acroread and I did from deb-multimedia repo. No
We cannot help with problems caused by third party repos
Le 26/10/2013 08:02, Chris Bannister a écrit :
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 05:56:17PM +0200, François Patte wrote:
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> I needed to install acroread and I did from deb-multimedia repo. No
>
> We cannot help with problems caused by third party repositories. A
> search via google regardin
Le 26/10/2013 08:02, Chris Bannister a écrit :
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 05:56:17PM +0200, François Patte wrote:
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> I needed to install acroread and I did from deb-multimedia repo. No
>
> We cannot help with problems caused by third party repositories. A
> search via google regardin
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:24:23AM +0400, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 22:14:56 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 23:55 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > > 2) Embedded movies
> >
> > I hope they require Adobe's original flash player and a DRM registration
> > on the Adobe homepag
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 05:56:17PM +0200, François Patte wrote:
> Bonjour,
>
> I needed to install acroread and I did from deb-multimedia repo. No
We cannot help with problems caused by third party repositories. A
search via google regarding "Debian multimedia problems" should shed
more light on
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 00:24 +0400, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 22:14:56 +0200 Ralf wrote:
> > I hope they require Adobe's original flash player and a DRM registration
> > on the Adobe homepage. Please, please I want this.
>
> Nah, that's so 1990. Currently they should require an account at a
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 22:14:56 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 23:55 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > 2) Embedded movies
>
> I hope they require Adobe's original flash player and a DRM registration
> on the Adobe homepage. Please, please I want this.
Nah, that's so 1990. Currently they sh
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 23:55 +0400, Reco wrote:
> 2) Embedded movies
I hope they require Adobe's original flash player and a DRM registration
on the Adobe homepage. Please, please I want this.
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:06:22 +0100
Brian wrote:
> > Yes! I use evince too, BUT evince is not (yet) able to display/use all
> > the capabilities of a pdf file, so I need to test some pdf file created
> > by TeX/LaTeX
>
> Which capabilities do you have in mind which evince (or another PD
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 19:40 +0100, Brian wrote:
> Java is another thing I am ignorant about. :)
:D
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On Fri 25 Oct 2013 at 20:25:14 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> Le 25/10/2013 20:06, Brian a écrit :
> >
> > Which capabilities do you have in mind which evince (or another PDF
> > reader) is unable to display or use?
>
> java support, and some others
Thank you.
Java is another thing I am ignora
Le 25/10/2013 20:06, Brian a écrit :
> On Fri 25 Oct 2013 at 19:55:35 +0200, François Patte wrote:
>
>> Le 25/10/2013 19:47, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
>>> Hi François,
>>>
>>> I use Evince and other Linux PDF readers instead. Adobe is a mafia and
>>> they become more worse with every single day.
>>
>
On 2013-10-25, François Patte wrote:
>
> /usr/lib/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while
> loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No
> such file or directory
You need the 32 bit libraries or (ia32-libs et compagnie) or you need to
invoke the new-f
On Fri 25 Oct 2013 at 20:02:25 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> Le 25/10/2013 19:45, Brian a écrit :
> >
> > Search package directories is at
> >
> >http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
>
> Thank you, that was my first idea, but how can I find which package
> provide this library...
With l
François Patte:
> /usr/lib/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while
> loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file:
> No such file or directory
>
> When I launch acroread...
>
> Where can I find this library?
$ locate -i libgl.so.1
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu
On Fri 25 Oct 2013 at 19:55:35 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> Le 25/10/2013 19:47, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
> > Hi François,
> >
> > I use Evince and other Linux PDF readers instead. Adobe is a mafia and
> > they become more worse with every single day.
>
> Yes! I use evince too, BUT evince is not
Le 25/10/2013 19:45, Brian a écrit :
> On Fri 25 Oct 2013 at 17:56:17 +0200, François Patte wrote:
>
>> I needed to install acroread and I did from deb-multimedia repo. No
>> errors during install everything is fine except:
>>
>> /usr/lib/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while
>
Le 25.10.2013 17:56, François Patte a écrit :
Where can I find this library?
I was not able to find which package include that particular file with
apt-file search (but I do not use it quite often so I guess I made a
mistake on the command) however it is probably provided by mesa
packages,
Le 25/10/2013 19:47, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
> Hi François,
>
> I use Evince and other Linux PDF readers instead. Adobe is a mafia and
> they become more worse with every single day.
Yes! I use evince too, BUT evince is not (yet) able to display/use all
the capabilities of a pdf file, so I need to
Hi François,
I use Evince and other Linux PDF readers instead. Adobe is a mafia and
they become more worse with every single day.
Regards,
Ralf
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On Fri 25 Oct 2013 at 17:56:17 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> I needed to install acroread and I did from deb-multimedia repo. No
> errors during install everything is fine except:
>
> /usr/lib/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while
> loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: canno
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