Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-27 Thread John L Fjellstad
"Mumia W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I need is an X keyboard configuration tutorial. The > Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO is long in the tooth and only glances over > X. I used this site: http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu.html -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-26 Thread Derek Martin
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 11:15:52AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Derek Martin wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 10:48:28AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> When US keyboards have the Euro symbol on it, then it will have > >> happened. > > > > Well, I don't think that is or should be a requirement...

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-26 Thread Mumia W.
Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: [...] For instance to input accents by means of dead keys, and to input an enormous variety of "combined characters" by means of the Compose key, on a US keyboard, for instance, you could use setxkbmap us -variant alt-intl -option compose:rwin [...] Thanks, it took m

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-26 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Mumia W. wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >>Thibaut Paumard wrote: >> >>> = e gives € >>> + - gives ± >>>... >> >>And the Multi_key is? >> > > > You define the Multi_key using xmodmap. xmodmap is a bit outdated, and in fact "deprecated" now; see the "Debian X Window System Frequently Asked Que

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-26 Thread John L Fjellstad
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When US keyboards have the Euro symbol on it, then it will have > happened. > > P.S. - How do you enter a Euro symbol from a US kbd into Tbird? Set up the compose key (I have it set up as the Left Alt key) Then compose c = -- John L. Fjellstad web: http

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mumia W. wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> Thanks. What's ? >> > > Right-Alt key Of course, how silly of me! :P - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Mumia W.
Ron Johnson wrote: Thanks. What's ? Right-Alt key -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Mumia W.
Ron Johnson wrote: Thibaut Paumard wrote: = e gives € + - gives ± ... And the Multi_key is? You define the Multi_key using xmodmap. I used the program xev to discover that the right windows key on my keyboard generates a keycode of 116, and I'm not using Windows, so I can make it a

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Lothar Braun
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 15:01 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Thanks. What's ? Oh. That's the right alt-key on German keyboards. -- Lothar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Mumia W.
Ron Johnson wrote: When US keyboards have the Euro symbol on it, then it will have happened. P.S. - How do you enter a Euro symbol from a US kbd into Tbird? One key on your keyboard might be set aside for composing foreign characters; this is called the Compose key. To enter a Euro (€) symbol

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lothar Braun wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 10:48 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> When US keyboards have the Euro symbol on it, then it will have >> happened. >> >> P.S. - How do you enter a Euro symbol from a US kbd into Tbird? >> >> P.P.S. - How do you

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thibaut Paumard wrote: > Le dimanche 25 juin 2006 à 10:48 -0500, Ron Johnson a écrit : >> When US keyboards have the Euro symbol on it, then it will have >> happened. >> >> P.S. - How do you enter a Euro symbol from a US kbd into Tbird? > > = e giv

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le dimanche 25 juin 2006 à 10:48 -0500, Ron Johnson a écrit : > When US keyboards have the Euro symbol on it, then it will have > happened. > > P.S. - How do you enter a Euro symbol from a US kbd into Tbird? = e gives € + - gives ± ... > P.P.S. - How do you do the same from the console? N

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Lothar Braun
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 10:48 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > When US keyboards have the Euro symbol on it, then it will have > happened. > > P.S. - How do you enter a Euro symbol from a US kbd into Tbird? > > P.P.S. - How do you do the same from the console? You can use xmodmap for that. I'm using "

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 09:36:59AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 08:01:21PM +0700, Surachai Locharoen >> wrote: [snip] > Still very relevant, because it is used to tell the application > which language

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread hendrik
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 09:36:59AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 08:01:21PM +0700, Surachai Locharoen wrote: > > I just want to know 'LANG=C' what does it mean? Normally, I see LANG is > > set to laguage which exist in the real world such as en, th, fr. > > The LANG variable

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > Derek Martin wrote: >>> On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 10:48:28AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] P.S. - How do you enter a Euro symbol from a US kbd into Tbird? >>> Copy-paste from a web page or other source which has it

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Derek Martin wrote: > On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 10:48:28AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> When US keyboards have the Euro symbol on it, then it will have >> happened. > > Well, I don't think that is or should be a requirement... I > mean, why limit that

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 11:54:54AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > > P.S. - How do you enter a Euro symbol from a US kbd into Tbird? > > Copy-paste from a web page or other source which has it? I keep a > file in my home directory with a few common symbols that are hard or > impossible to type with

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 10:48:28AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > When US keyboards have the Euro symbol on it, then it will have > happened. Well, I don't think that is or should be a requirement... I mean, why limit that idea to just the Euro symbol? Why not include the Yen, or the Korean Won, th

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Derek Martin wrote: > On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 07:37:51AM -0700, Xeno Campanoli wrote: [snip] > While the majority of people in the Windows world have switched > to XP by now, there are still a surprisingly large number of > people using Windows 98/ME (

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 07:37:51AM -0700, Xeno Campanoli wrote: > I've wondered about that. Why aren't "modern" systems just moving > straight to Unicode? Well, as I said, they are. It's mostly the modern PEOPLE who are not... ;-) Debian Sarge is pretty good as far as UTF-8 support, though f

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Xeno Campanoli wrote: > I've wondered about that. Why aren't "modern" systems just > moving straight to Unicode? UTF-8 *is* Unicode. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8 > Derek Martin wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 08:01:21PM +0700, Surachai Loch

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Xeno Campanoli
I've wondered about that. Why aren't "modern" systems just moving straight to Unicode? Derek Martin wrote: On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 08:01:21PM +0700, Surachai Locharoen wrote: I just want to know 'LANG=C' what does it mean? Normally, I see LANG is set to laguage which exist in the real wor

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Ron Johnson wrote: > I thought C meant "plain *old* ASCII encoding, like what was used on > the PDP computers that C was written on". Well, yes, it is US English ASCII. But I have seen it being abused. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 08:01:21PM +0700, Surachai Locharoen wrote: > I just want to know 'LANG=C' what does it mean? Normally, I see LANG is > set to laguage which exist in the real world such as en, th, fr. The LANG variable sets the user's locale, which tells the system what language and local

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Linas Žvirblis wrote: > Surachai Locharoen wrote: > >> I just want to know 'LANG=C' what does it mean? Normally, I see >> LANG is set to laguage which exist in the real world such as >> en, th, fr. > > It means the default language - the one the appl

Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

2006-06-25 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Surachai Locharoen wrote: > I just want to know 'LANG=C' what does it mean? Normally, I see LANG is > set to laguage which exist in the real world such as en, th, fr. It means the default language - the one the application is actually written in. In practice this is usually English, but one could