Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-04 Thread Brian
On Thu 03 Apr 2014 at 11:12:57 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Brian wrote: > >[snip] > > > >Basically - you get the mail we decide you get. Don't complain, it is > >good for you. So much for freedom of communication. > > > > I disagree. Personally part of what I pay my ISP for is competent > qual

Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 10:18:17 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: Hello Lisi, >On Friday 04 April 2014 08:05:51 Chris Bannister wrote: >> You can't send money through the post >Since when? Lisi, don't forget that different jurisdictions may have different regulations. Having said that, I used to register

Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 04 April 2014 08:05:51 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:00:09PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > Electronic mail is rapidly becoming a toy communication system. > > How many people would tolerate their usual postal services (Royal > > Mail in my case) making any decision whatsoe

[OT] Sending money through the post (was ... Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail)

2014-04-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 10:18:17AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 04 April 2014 08:05:51 Chris Bannister wrote: > > You can't send money through the post > > Since when? An elderly relative used often to do so. (She is dead > now, hence the past tense.) Ahh! Should have googled¹ first! :

Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 04 April 2014 08:05:51 Chris Bannister wrote: > You can't send money through the post Since when? An elderly relative used often to do so. (She is dead now, hence the past tense.) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:00:09PM +0100, Brian wrote: > Electronic mail is rapidly becoming a toy communication system. How many > people would tolerate their usual postal services (Royal Mail in my > case) making any decision whatsoever about what they could send or > receive? > > The question i

Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-03 Thread Richard Owlett
Brian wrote: [snip] Basically - you get the mail we decide you get. Don't complain, it is good for you. So much for freedom of communication. I disagree. Personally part of what I pay my ISP for is competent quality filtering. They do a very good job - I see very little junk mail and have n

Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-03 Thread Brian
On Thu 03 Apr 2014 at 07:33:04 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:32:01PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > Basically - you get the mail we decide you get. Don't complain, it is good > > for you. So much for freedom of communication. > > You are entirely free to run your own mailse

Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:32:01PM +0100, Brian wrote: > Basically - you get the mail we decide you get. Don't complain, it is good > for you. So much for freedom of communication. You are entirely free to run your own mailserver. (Not a snark: that's exactly what I do). I used to be a co-adminis

Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-02 Thread Joel Rees
Can't resist the opportunity to editorialize and say things that are easy to take out of context, but, ... On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Brian wrote: > On Wed 02 Apr 2014 at 10:47:20 -0500, Mr Queue wrote: > > > Unfortunately this mailing list has been listed with senderscore and > > How does

Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-02 Thread Brian
On Wed 02 Apr 2014 at 14:12:56 -0500, Mr Queue wrote: > On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 20:00:09 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > How does one determine that? > > The server logs: > > ... H:RPBL [82.195.75.100] Connection refused due to > abuse. Please contact your E-mail provider. (in reply to RCPT TO command)

Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-02 Thread Mr Queue
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 20:00:09 +0100 Brian wrote: > How does one determine that? The server logs: ... H:RPBL [82.195.75.100] Connection refused due to abuse. Please contact your E-mail provider. (in reply to RCPT TO command)) ... H:RPBL [82.195.75.100] Connection refused due to abuse. Please con

Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-02 Thread Brian
On Wed 02 Apr 2014 at 10:47:20 -0500, Mr Queue wrote: > Unfortunately this mailing list has been listed with senderscore and How does one determine that? > it would appear the affected users IPS's are utilizing this service. How does one determine that? > The listmaster has requested to be del

Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail

2014-04-02 Thread Craig L.
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:47:20AM -0500, Mr Queue wrote: > Unfortunately this mailing list has been listed with senderscore and it would > appear the affected users IPS's are > utilizing this service. The listmaster has requested to be delisted but it > may take some time for them to process the