On 20/02/2024 14:48, Erwan David wrote:
Le 20/02/2024 à 03:20, Max Nikulin a écrit :
busctl get-property \
org.freedesktop.NetworkManager \
/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager \
org.freedesktop.NetworkManager Metered
It would also require to configure NetworkManager to set this correctly.
E
On 20/02/2024 19:44, Greg Wooledge wrote:
1) This apt-daily.timer stuff is quite complex and difficult to discover
and understand.
I am sorry that I confused enough people by my statements. I believed
that by default this timer runs "apt update" every day while upgrades
are not enabled ou
Hello,
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 07:44:55AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>This thing has no configuration file by default; you have to read the
>comments in the software itself to figure out what it does.
Or, say, the Debian Administrator's Handbook.
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debia
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 07:44:55AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
[...]
> For me, it's a combination of two things:
>
> 1) This apt-daily.timer stuff is quite complex and difficult to discover
>and understand [...]
I gather this from the thread, yes. I just checked, and the scripts
come with a
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:39:56AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:17:17AM +0100, Michael wrote:
> > i very much dislike the fact that my systems do things i am not aware of.
>
> I think one of the purposes of a Linux distribution is to pull
> together a collection of dispara
Le 20/02/2024 à 12:46, Andy Smith a écrit :
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 08:52:09AM +0100, Erwan David wrote:
I use KDE, and I do not know wether discover does an update by itself. I do
not thind any setting about this
I think it is very likely that KDE has an equivalent to GNOME, which
does th
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 08:52:09AM +0100, Erwan David wrote:
> I use KDE, and I do not know wether discover does an update by itself. I do
> not thind any setting about this
I think it is very likely that KDE has an equivalent to GNOME, which
does the equivalent of "apt update" every day and
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:17:17AM +0100, Michael wrote:
> i very much dislike the fact that my systems do things i am not aware of.
I think one of the purposes of a Linux distribution is to pull
together a collection of disparate software of their choosing and
make default decisions for thei
On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 5:23:35 AM CET, Greg Wooledge wrote:
I'm not sure how to interpret this combination of things. Do these
default settings mean "the update/upgrade script will run, but it won't
actually do anything"?
kind of...
lines 354-360 (on bookworm) of said script (/usr/lib/
Le 20/02/2024 à 01:58, Andy Smith a écrit :
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 08:35:18PM +0100, Erwan David wrote:
Sorry il was packagekit, I made a mistake while writing.
If it's packagekit then isn't it going to be some part of your
desktop environment? Which desktop environment are you using?
GN
Le 20/02/2024 à 03:20, Max Nikulin a écrit :
On 20/02/2024 02:35, Erwan David wrote:
Le 19/02/2024 à 18:00, Max Nikulin a écrit :
systemctl disable --now apt-daily.timer apt-daily-upgrade.timer
Perhaps it is possible to write a script that will respect
connection.metered property set by N
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 03:56:49AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 10:21:24PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Does anyone know when these things changed, and why on earth nobody
> > knew about it?! Did I miss a section in the release notes or something?
>
> Why are you shocked
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 10:21:24PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Does anyone know when these things changed, and why on earth nobody
> knew about it?! Did I miss a section in the release notes or something?
Why are you shocked by this? Most of it is disabled by default (no
update / upgrade /
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 09:20:11AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> > > systemctl disable --now apt-daily.timer apt-daily-upgrade.timer
> To avoid confusion, these timers are from the apt package, not from
> unattended-upgrades. So they are active on most Debian hosts.
Holy crap... when did this h
On 20/02/2024 02:35, Erwan David wrote:
Le 19/02/2024 à 18:00, Max Nikulin a écrit :
systemctl disable --now apt-daily.timer apt-daily-upgrade.timer
Perhaps it is possible to write a script that will respect
connection.metered property set by NetworkManager.
I disable the timers, thanks
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 08:35:18PM +0100, Erwan David wrote:
> Sorry il was packagekit, I made a mistake while writing.
If it's packagekit then isn't it going to be some part of your
desktop environment? Which desktop environment are you using?
GNOME will download updates and prompt you to i
Le 19/02/2024 à 18:00, Max Nikulin a écrit :
On 19/02/2024 14:35, Erwan David wrote:
After each boot, the equivalent of apt update is automatically done
in background, through policykit (apt database is locked by
policykitd). So I think there is a timer triggroing this. I'd like to
disable t
On 19/02/2024 14:35, Erwan David wrote:
After each boot, the equivalent of apt update is automatically done in
background, through policykit (apt database is locked by policykitd). So
I think there is a timer triggroing this. I'd like to disable this when
my laptop is on expensive link (eg 4G
Erwan David writes:
> Hello,
>
> After each boot, the equivalent of apt update is automatically done in
> background, through policykit (apt database is locked by
> policykitd). So I think there is a timer triggroing this. I'd like to
> disable this when my laptop is on expensive link (eg 4G link
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