Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150421_1930+0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 21 Apr 2015 at 10:38:03 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > On 20150421_1248+0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 21 Apr 2015 at 11:30:55 +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > > > > > > > Also 'Expert' doesn't really imply that that user is an expert. > > > > >>>

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-21 Thread Brian
On Tue 21 Apr 2015 at 10:38:03 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20150421_1248+0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 21 Apr 2015 at 11:30:55 +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > > > > > Also 'Expert' doesn't really imply that that user is an expert. > > > >>> > > > >>>It does to me. Strange name choice if th

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150421_1248+0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 21 Apr 2015 at 11:30:55 +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > > > Also 'Expert' doesn't really imply that that user is an expert. > > >>> > > >>>It does to me. Strange name choice if that is not the case. > > >> > > >> Would "advanced setup" be better? Ric

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-21 Thread Brian
On Tue 21 Apr 2015 at 11:30:55 +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Also 'Expert' doesn't really imply that that user is an expert. > >>> > >>>It does to me. Strange name choice if that is not the case. > >> > >> Would "advanced setup" be better? Ric > > > > Yeah it would, it implies access to fine

RE: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-21 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, Also 'Expert' doesn't really imply that that user is an expert. >>> >>>It does to me. Strange name choice if that is not the case. >> >> Would "advanced setup" be better? Ric > > Yeah it would, it implies access to finer grained features than to the skill > level of the person installin

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-21 Thread Brian
On Tue 21 Apr 2015 at 21:26:07 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 03:49:07PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > > On 04/20/2015 03:44 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > > >On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:52:53PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > >>Also 'Expert' doesn't really imply that that user is a

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 03:49:07PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/20/2015 03:44 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > >On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:52:53PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > >>Also 'Expert' doesn't really imply that that user is an expert. > > > >It does to me. Strange name choice if that is not the c

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-20 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/20/2015 03:44 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:52:53PM +0100, Brian wrote: Also 'Expert' doesn't really imply that that user is an expert. It does to me. Strange name choice if that is not the case. Would "advanced setup" be better? Ric -- My father, Victor Mo

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:52:53PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 20 Apr 2015 at 12:34:53 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > > > > > The lesson that I have for others who may find this email while trying > > > to debug a small personal LAN in your

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-20 Thread David Wright
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): > 'Install' gives exactly the same partitioning options as 'Expert > install'. > > Also 'Expert' doesn't really imply that that user is an expert. > Having booted d-i with 'Install' it is easy enough to get 'Expert' > mode by returning to the main menu to cha

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-20 Thread Brian
On Mon 20 Apr 2015 at 12:34:53 -0500, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > > > The lesson that I have for others who may find this email while trying > > to debug a small personal LAN in your home is: > > > > Always use 'Expert install' in doing netinst even

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-20 Thread David Wright
Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > We have been snipping stuff that seemed to be no longer relevant, so I > have to work from my own memory that I know is flawed. Everything on this list is also at the Debian website. This thread starts at https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/20

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... great progress

2015-04-20 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150420_0911+0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 10:18:58 -0600 > Paul E Condon wrote: > > > On 20150419_0852-0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > On 20150419_0826-0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > On 20150419_0830+0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > > > On your router, depending on make

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... another related question

2015-04-20 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 10:18:58 -0600 Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20150419_0852-0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > On 20150419_0826-0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > On 20150419_0830+0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > > On your router, depending on make and model, there is usually a > > > > page in the web in

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... another related question

2015-04-19 Thread David Wright
Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > > I am trying to setup DHCP assignment, but it doesn't seem to be working. > Mostly the more things I try, the less things show up in the list of attached > devices. I hope I can recover from this experiment. It might be worth posting the model

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... another related question

2015-04-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150419_0852-0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20150419_0826-0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > On 20150419_0830+0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:18:17 -0600 > > > Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > > > > On 20150418_1905-0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > > Quoting Paul E Condon (pe

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150419_0826-0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20150419_0830+0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:18:17 -0600 > > Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > > On 20150418_1905-0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > > > > > > > > > I was running

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150419_0830+0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:18:17 -0600 > Paul E Condon wrote: > > > On 20150418_1905-0500, David Wright wrote: > > > Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > > > > > > > I was running as pec or as root. I forget. Since doing that, I > > > > re

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-18 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:18:17 -0600 Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20150418_1905-0500, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > > > > > I was running as pec or as root. I forget. Since doing that, I > > > realized that for many years I have been running with my own

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150418_1905-0500, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > > > I was running as pec or as root. I forget. Since doing that, I > > realized that for many years I have been running with my own version > > of /etc/ssh/ssh.config. Confronted with the evidence, I

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-18 Thread David Wright
Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > I was running as pec or as root. I forget. Since doing that, I > realized that for many years I have been running with my own version > of /etc/ssh/ssh.config. Confronted with the evidence, I recall that > this was a place I found, through exha

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150418_1222-0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20150417_1408-0500, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > > > > > I have four desktop machines running Jessie. I try to keep them a;; > > > upgraded on whenever new package versions are released. I thought it >

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150417_1408-0500, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > > > I have four desktop machines running Jessie. I try to keep them a;; > > upgraded on whenever new package versions are released. I thought it > > would be fast and simple. I was very wrong. This in

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150417_1408-0500, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > > > I have four desktop machines running Jessie. I try to keep them a;; > > upgraded on whenever new package versions are released. I thought it > > would be fast and simple. I was very wrong. This in

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > RC2 netinst created an /etc/hosts with only two lines: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 127.0.1.1 big.lan.gnu big I would have expected the following to have been included: # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150417_1730-0500, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > > I am coming to realize that the re-install, not upgrade, of Jessie > > from RC2 has done something that makes it ignore my /etc/hosts file > > and go its own way. I can't find the trick to make my de

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > I am coming to realize that the re-install, not upgrade, of Jessie > from RC2 has done something that makes it ignore my /etc/hosts file > and go its own way. I can't find the trick to make my desktop computer > use the /etc/hosts that I have loa

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > I have four desktop machines running Jessie. I try to keep them a;; > upgraded on whenever new package versions are released. I thought it > would be fast and simple. I was very wrong. This install behaves very > differently in the following way

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150416_0100-0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I have installed various releases of debian many times. I have a local > proxy using approx that makes it very fast. > > After posting about a lockup of my desktop Jessie computer, I realized > that whatever advice I got would I got would surely be mor

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/16/2015 03:00 AM, Paul E Condon wrote: Why does the author of the WARNING presume that there is a different person, other than the person reading the message who is the actual 'your system administration'? Has someone in NSA or CIA been assigned to monitor me, and this message breaches glo

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Gary Dale
On 16/04/15 03:00 AM, Paul E Condon wrote: I have installed various releases of debian many times. I have a local proxy using approx that makes it very fast. After posting about a lockup of my desktop Jessie computer, I realized that whatever advice I got would I got would surely be more complic