Re: Dotfiles

2013-08-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 23:20:31 -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > The point about mentioning browsers is that you don't generally look > there. The other point about browsers is that when I look at my home directory with firefox, the dotfiles take up most of the visual space. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBS

Re: Dotfiles

2013-08-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 23:55:38 +0100, Chris Davies wrote: > Slavko wrote: >> Dňa 02.07.2013 23:32 John Hasler wrote / napísal(a): >>> Look at the access times. Dotfiles that have not been accessed in >>> years can probably be safely removed. > >> Sure, but do not forget, that the "relatime" (defau

Re: Dotfiles

2013-08-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 03:12:40 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 01:08:05AM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:06:17 -0500, Yaro Yaro wrote: >> >> > Package managers don't track .dotfiles. >> >> No, they don't. That, of course, is part of the problem. > >

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-04 Thread Chris Davies
Slavko wrote: > Dňa 02.07.2013 23:32 John Hasler wrote / napísal(a): >> Look at the access times. Dotfiles that have not been accessed in years >> can probably be safely removed. > Sure, but do not forget, that the "relatime" (default one) and "noatime" > mount options are going into play, then t

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-07-03 00:43:39 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:02:08 -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > > > Y'all are really taking all of the fun out of this. > > > > Here's the point - this is an exercise. There is no good reason to do > > this. What, you've got a 10 meg disk that is at 9

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-03 Thread Slavko
Dňa 02.07.2013 23:32 John Hasler wrote / napísal(a): > Look at the access times. dotfiles that have not been accessed in years > can probably be safely removed. > Sure, but do not forget, that the "relatime" (default one) and "noatime" mount options are going into play, then the results can be

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 01:08:05AM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:06:17 -0500, Yaro Yaro wrote: > > > Package managers don't track .dotfiles. > > No, they don't. That, of course, is part of the problem. Ummm, no it isn't. It is a serious bug if any package interferes with f

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread shawn wilson
The point about mentioning browsers is that you don't generally look there. Unix convention is to only lead config (or otherwise hidden) files with a dot. If you do an ls -a, you're asking to see these files, so I don't see how they're polluting your namespace. I'm much prefer to have file metadata

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:06:17 -0500, Yaro Yaro wrote: > Package managers don't track .dotfiles. No, they don't. That, of course, is part of the problem. But it would be useful if packages were to have a standard format for declaring what dotfiles the package is in charge of. Much like the way

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:02:08 -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > Y'all are really taking all of the fun out of this. > > Here's the point - this is an exercise. There is no good reason to do > this. What, you've got a 10 meg disk that is at 95%? Well, if you pay > shipping, I've got a extra 40 meg that

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Joel Rees
Heh. Thanks for filling in the gaps. (Although, I would point out that every killer app today started as somebody's fun project yesterday, so there's no reason to discourage them. Bits of what we've seen of the road ahead, yeah, let them make up their minds about which way they go.) On Wed, Jul 3

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread shawn wilson
Y'all are really taking all of the fun out of this. Here's the point - this is an exercise. There is no good reason to do this. What, you've got a 10 meg disk that is at 95%? Well, if you pay shipping, I've got a extra 40 meg that I use as a book end that I'll send you. Keep the files or delete t

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:28 AM, shawn wilson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 July 2013 22:06:17 Yaro Yaro wrote: > >> On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: > >> > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. > >> > > >> > No doub

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> > >> >> And which ones are obsolete -- the user equivalent of configuration >> files, which are properly tracked by the package manager? > > > The violence option? As in, mv all the .files t

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread John Hasler
Look at the access times. dotfiles that have not been accessed in years can probably be safely removed. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debia

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 02 July 2013 22:06:17 Yaro Yaro wrote: >> On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: >> > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. >> > >> > No doubt some of them are useful. >> > >> > Many, though, are probably re

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. > > No doubt some of them are useful. > > Many, though, are probably remnants of packages of years past -- packages > I installed long ago, no longer need, and have removed. > > Is ther

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 02 July 2013 22:06:17 Yaro Yaro wrote: > On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: > > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. > > > > No doubt some of them are useful. > > > > Many, though, are probably remnants of packages of years past -- packages > > I installe

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Yaro Yaro
Package managers don't track .dotfiles. Those are created at runtime by your software. On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. > > No doubt some of them are useful. > > Many, though, are probably remnants of packages of years past