Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-29 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: > > Rounding that was used to publish the sizes on the web. > > Interesting. Wasn't aware of that. Actually, I have thought out how to find out that: by simply downloading w/ wget help - when it starts it show the exact size - now having the info I c

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-28 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:13:54PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: > > > If you know how to convert Mb to bytes, what is your problem? > > Rounding that was used to publish the sizes on the web. Interesting. Wasn't aware of that. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-28 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: > If you know how to convert Mb to bytes, what is your problem? Rounding that was used to publish the sizes on the web. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lis

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 27 iul 10, 10:00:30, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Lu, 26 iul 10, 21:04:12, Rob Owens wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 08:34:23PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > > > Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: > > > > > > > That's about as official > > > > as you can get without a Debian release mana

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 26 iul 10, 21:04:12, Rob Owens wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 08:34:23PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > > Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: > > > > > That's about as official > > > as you can get without a Debian release manager being in charge of > > > it, I guess. > > > > What differ

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 08:34:23PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: > > > That's about as official > > as you can get without a Debian release manager being in charge of > > it, I guess. > > What difference does it make in sense of security? > I've had a busy we

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:06, Sthu Deus wrote: > Good day. > > I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. > > 1. Which software (may that is even packaged for Debian) is the best at > Your opinion and why for virus/spy-ware (the software that scans for > interesting d

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On 7/26/10 4:38 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Not according to the relevant standards. 1Mb = 1 000 000 bits 1MB = 1 000 000 bytes 1Mib = 2 ^ 20 bits 1MiB = 2 ^ 20 bytes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_prefix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 08:31:33PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: > > > I'm confused. Please educate me. 1) Why do you need to know the > > *exact* size of the iso? 2) do you not know how to convert Mb to > > bytes? > > 1. I need to reap the iso image from t

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Carl Johnson
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." writes: > On Monday 26 July 2010 08:31:33 Sthu Deus wrote: >> Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: >> > 2) do you not know how to convert Mb to >> > bytes? >> >> 2. I believe I do: 1 Mb = 1048576 bytes. Correct? > > Not according to the relevant standards. > > 1Mb

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 26 July 2010 08:31:33 Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: > > 2) do you not know how to convert Mb to > > bytes? > > 2. I believe I do: 1 Mb = 1048576 bytes. Correct? Not according to the relevant standards. 1Mb = 1 000 000 bits 1MB = 1 000 000 bytes 1Mib =

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: > That's about as official > as you can get without a Debian release manager being in charge of > it, I guess. What difference does it make in sense of security? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubs

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Tzafrir: > Worked forme, last time I tried (with a CD). Try w/ other CDs. > Sorry, my mistake. I was sure it was available at archive.deian.org . > I can't find it. The ubuntu CDs ?! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-26 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: > I'm confused. Please educate me. 1) Why do you need to know the > *exact* size of the iso? 2) do you not know how to convert Mb to > bytes? 1. I need to reap the iso image from the media - the same that was burned - to check its sum latter. - Otherwis

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:54:48PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Clive: > > > You might want to read > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm > > - especially the section "Accurately Reading a CD Device". > > I have read an article on the tompic fro

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 08:29:18PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:51:13PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > > Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: > > > > > I saw you mentioned live cds as well. Debian has the tools to build > > > your own live cd. The command line tool is

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:51:13PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: > > > I saw you mentioned live cds as well. Debian has the tools to build > > your own live cd. The command line tool is live-helper, and there's a > > GUI called live-magic. > > Is there offic

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:57:53PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Tzafrir: > > > Actually, a simple dd should work. > No. Almost never works. Worked forme, last time I tried (with a CD). > > > Could you please be more specific as to the version? Both Debian and >

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 22:51 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Is there official live CDs? Yesterday I saw "Debian Live squeeze alpha2" announced, see: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/07/msg6.html -- Tixy () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign (www.asciiribbon.org)

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Tzafrir: > Actually, a simple dd should work. No. Almost never works. > Could you please be more specific as to the version? Both Debian and > Ubuntu keep copies of older images. Well. I need exact sizes of the images of ubuntu - 8.10 and 9.04 . May, You know

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Clive: > You might want to read > http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm > - especially the section "Accurately Reading a CD Device". I have read an article on the tompic from ubuntu's site. Now I have another problem: n order to retrive iso from

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Rob: > I saw you mentioned live cds as well. Debian has the tools to build > your own live cd. The command line tool is live-helper, and there's a > GUI called live-magic. Is there official live CDs? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.de

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-21 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:28:00AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > So, what should I do for the distro install cds - regarding both - > spyware and viruses? > > If we speak about checksumming - sometimes it fails though I believe > the problem lays in not accurate or whatever downloading, the images > b

Re: Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-21 Thread Clive Standbridge
> 1. I do not know how to get image from a cd/dvd - I believe by simple > dd-ing it will not work w/ checksum, but some more options should be > used. You might want to read http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm - especially the section "Accurately Reading a CD Device". -- Cheers,

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:19:30AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei: > > > > question: I have s live/installable-CD/DVD. I use its normal/rescue > > > mode - I do somethings w/ my OS on HDD in order to make it working. > > > I had no ability to check its checksu

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-20 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 01:28:00 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: > >> What are you afraid of? I mean, what is your main concern? > > Spying, programs modifications. I have seen already unexplainable weird > things - one text file was in size - zero - that neve

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-20 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: > What are you afraid of? I mean, what is your main concern? Spying, programs modifications. I have seen already unexplainable weird things - one text file was in size - zero - that never has been so for a long time, another, .ods - was partially dama

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-20 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei: > > question: I have s live/installable-CD/DVD. I use its normal/rescue > > mode - I do somethings w/ my OS on HDD in order to make it working. > > I had no ability to check its checksum, so, is there a way I can be > > sure that the software I used is "

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 07/17/2010 03:11 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sb, 17 iul 10, 14:06:58, Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. [snip] This has been discussed several times, but IMVHO the time and resources invested in scanning for malware on Debi

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-19 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:12:26 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: >> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:06:58 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: >> >> > I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection >> > technique. >> >> He, sounds like a test... > > Would You like to take it? Sure! I like tests (almost) more than

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 19 iul 10, 15:12:26, Sthu Deus wrote: [...] > question: I have s live/installable-CD/DVD. I use its normal/rescue > mode - I do somethings w/ my OS on HDD in order to make it working. I > had no ability to check its checksum, so, is there a way I can be sure > that the software I used is "

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-19 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:06:58 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > > > I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection > > technique. > > He, sounds like a test... Would You like to take it? > > 1. Which software (may that is even packaged for

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-19 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Jordon: > If you must because of incoming mail try using ClamAV. Which a lot of > servers are readily able to integrate and unless you're dumb enough > (and this is just a subjective opinion) to allow elevated privileges > without knowing what the program is, or

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-19 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei, giving me and others the points: >This has been discussed several times, but IMVHO the time and >resources invested in scanning for malware on Debian are better used >in securing the system. > >Regards, >Andrei > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/l

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-17 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:06:58 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. He, sounds like a test... > 1. Which software (may that is even packaged for Debian) is the best at > Your opinion and why for virus/spy-ware (the software that scans f

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-17 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Sb, 17 iul 10, 14:06:58, Sthu Deus wrote: > Good day. > > I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. > If you must because of incoming mail try using ClamAV. Which a lot of servers are readily able to integrate and unless you're dumb enough (and this is just a subj

Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 17 iul 10, 14:06:58, Sthu Deus wrote: > Good day. > > I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique. [snip] This has been discussed several times, but IMVHO the time and resources invested in scanning for malware on Debian are better used in securing the system.