Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-08-12 at 14:00 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > I understand that most people don't like to adapt to new things and get > set in their ways -- but if we all did that, no progress would ever be > made. Yesno. I still use the same forks and knives as I used in my childhood, but in my child

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-12 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 06:09:19AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 23:58 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > > So please lets stop the misinformation. > > GNOME3 eats much more resources. GNOME3 breaks every sane workflow for > artist. Of course it does, as I stated, Again, on an old

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-12 Thread Pete Orrall
>> So please lets stop the misinformation. > > Indeed. Let's hear about peoples' actual experiences. I've used Wheezy both on my Toshiba Tecra A8 and in a VM on a previous workstation. I was not impressed at all with Gnome3's requirement for graphic acceleration to just run the desktop. My lapto

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-08-12 at 08:18 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Joe wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:58:54 -0400 > > Stephen Allen wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:55:13AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > >>> > >>> GNOME 3 is quite different from the GNOME 2 series, and has ma

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-12 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:58:54 -0400 > Stephen Allen wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:55:13AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: >>> >>> GNOME 3 is quite different from the GNOME 2 series, and has made >>> some people correspondingly upset. XFCE is fairly sim

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-12 Thread Joe
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:58:54 -0400 Stephen Allen wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:55:13AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:33:04AM -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > > > GNOME 3 is quite different from the GNOME 2 series, and has made > > some people correspondingly upset. XFCE i

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 23:58 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > So please lets stop the misinformation. GNOME3 eats much more resources. GNOME3 breaks every sane workflow for artist. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact l

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-11 Thread Stephen Allen
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:55:13AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:33:04AM -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > GNOME 3 is quite different from the GNOME 2 series, and has made > some people correspondingly upset. XFCE is fairly similar to > GNOME 2, and may suit those people better. In

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 13:07 -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > Yes, there it is : > > from : http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy > > === > Packages & versions > > apt: 0.9.7 > kernel: Linux 3.2 > gcc: 4.7.1 > > Gnome 3.4, KDE 4.8, Xfce 4.8 > > libc: eglibc 2.13 > X Server: Xorg R7.7

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-10 Thread Guy Gold
Yes, there it is : from : http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy === Packages & versions apt: 0.9.7 kernel: Linux 3.2 gcc: 4.7.1 Gnome 3.4, KDE 4.8, Xfce 4.8 libc: eglibc 2.13 X Server: Xorg R7.7 == On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Camaleón wrote: >

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-10 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:35:52 -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > Does that mean that future releases of Debian will no longer support > GNOME 2 ? Yes, I think so... since Wheezy and until Squeeze is supported. GNOME2 has been (or will be soon) deprecated/dead end from upstream GNOME project (the same it w

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 09:33 -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > On Fri,Aug 10 02:26:PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > However, I don't know whether you can really say "Debian+GNONE3". Debian > > is nothing without the packages. Gnome 3 is part of Debian. > > When was GNOME3 the default desktop for Debain ? (luc

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-10 Thread Guy Gold
On Fri,Aug 10 09:55:AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > GNOME 3 is quite different from the GNOME 2 series, and has made > some people correspondingly upset. XFCE is fairly similar to > GNOME 2, and may suit those people better. In particular, GNOME > 3 really wants 3D accelerated video. XFCE doesn't care much

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-10 Thread John Hasler
Guy writes: > When was GNOME3 the default desktop for Debain ? Gnome was the default desktop for quite a while. It was assumed that Gnome3 would be the default for Wheezy but it turns out to be too large to fit on the first CD. Gnome3 will presumably be a choice in Tasksel. It would be possible,

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:33:04AM -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > On Fri,Aug 10 02:26:PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > However, I don't know whether you can really say "Debian+GNONE3". Debian > > is nothing without the packages. Gnome 3 is part of Debian. > > When was GNOME3 the default desktop for Debain

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-10 Thread Guy Gold
On Fri,Aug 10 02:26:PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > However, I don't know whether you can really say "Debian+GNONE3". Debian > is nothing without the packages. Gnome 3 is part of Debian. When was GNOME3 the default desktop for Debain ? (luckily , it was not in squeeze, which came with GNOME2 , I'm unni

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 03:08:50PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Is this [1] true? I welcome this. Partly. See http://lists.debian.org/jvu3q0$kgo$1...@dough.gmane.org and the ongoing thread. However, I don't know whether you can really say "Debian+GNONE3". Debian is nothing without the packages.