On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 05:44:44AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On 10/03/2013 05:11 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> > No apology necessary. I'm on many open lists (LKML) where hitting
> > reply-to-list only goes to the sender. So I've been guilty myself a few
> > times.
> >
> so that is list spec
On 10/4/2013 4:44 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On 10/03/2013 05:11 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> No apology necessary. I'm on many open lists (LKML) where hitting
>> reply-to-list only goes to the sender. So I've been guilty myself a few
>> times.
>>
> so that is list specific... I wondered, beca
On 10/03/2013 05:11 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> No apology necessary. I'm on many open lists (LKML) where hitting
> reply-to-list only goes to the sender. So I've been guilty myself a few
> times.
>
so that is list specific... I wondered, because sometimes I hit reply &
it goes to the person, ot
On 10/3/2013 7:49 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 03 October 2013 05:52:06 Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> In my early 40s
>
> A mere strippling! And there was I pegging you as a sage*. ;-)
>
> Lisi
>
> * a teacher venerable for years, and of sound judgment (Wiktionary)
"I'm sorry, I'm not [The O
> On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>
> If your broadband router has QOS features, many newer models do, you
> should be able to program it to give priority to game traffic. That
> would prevent the lag and stutter due to Skype or any other traffic.
> It's usually pretty easy to
On Thursday 03 October 2013 05:52:06 Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> In my early 40s
A mere strippling! And there was I pegging you as a sage*. ;-)
Lisi
* a teacher venerable for years, and of sound judgment (Wiktionary)
P.S. Sorry Stan - I did not mean to send to you personally. I am
trying to trai
On 02 Oct 2013, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
[snip]
> > No apology needed. You did in fact peg my age correctly; I will be 61 next
> > month. And I too have known people who run less than the native resolution
> > to make the fonts bigger. When I get to that point, though, I will simply
> > increase
>
On 10/2/2013 9:42 AM, Rhiamom wrote:
>
>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 4:59 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote
>>
>> This is the limiting factor. And this is why I implore people to buy
>> the fastest dual core and forgo the quad, six, eight core models. And
>> in fact, for non gamer daily use, I recommend the sing
On 10/2/2013 8:23 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 03:59:15AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> This will really throw you for a loop. Open a shell window and execute
>>
>> ~$ sudo echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
>
> She'll probably get 'Permission denied', you need elevated p
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:42:57 -0400
Rhiamom wrote:
> > On Oct 2, 2013, at 4:59 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote
...
> > You would be correct if the number you're looking at reflected
> > application memory usage. But it doesn't. On any of the modern
> > operating systems one must damn near be a compute
> On Oct 2, 2013, at 4:59 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote
>
> This is the limiting factor. And this is why I implore people to buy
> the fastest dual core and forgo the quad, six, eight core models. And
> in fact, for non gamer daily use, I recommend the single core AMD
> Sempron, because a dual core
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 03:59:15AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> This will really throw you for a loop. Open a shell window and execute
>
> ~$ sudo echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
She'll probably get 'Permission denied', you need elevated permissions
for the writing process, which in this case
On 10/2/2013 5:41 AM, Jeff Bauer wrote:
> On 10/02/2013 04:59 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> On 10/1/2013 5:13 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>>
>>> I have also looked at my memory usage. At this very moment, not running
>>> WoW, I have 5.22 gig being used. 4 gig would not be sufficient for me.
>> You wo
On 10/02/2013 04:59 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
On 10/1/2013 5:13 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
I have also looked at my memory usage. At this very moment, not running
WoW, I have 5.22 gig being used. 4 gig would not be sufficient for me.
You would be correct if the number you're looking at reflect
On 10/1/2013 5:13 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Stan Hoeppner
> wrote:
>
>> Actually they were, up to the point you finally told us what screen
>> resolution you use. That changes things quite a bit, or I should say
>> changed one thing dramatically.
>
>> I recom
On 10/1/2013 9:16 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> On 9/29/2013 6:01 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
>> ...
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors
>>>
>>> tells me that AMD A4-1250, AMD A6-1450, and E2-1800 all have AMD-V.
>>>
>>> The
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Stan Hoeppner
wrote:
>Actually they were, up to the point you finally told us what screen
>resolution you use. That changes things quite a bit, or I should say
>changed one thing dramatically.
>I recommended a fast dual core CPU because more cores will be wasted
On 10/01/2013 10:57 AM, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 06:40:01 +0200
> Doug wrote:
>
>> it's nothing
>> like the prices shown unloaded, above.
>
> .21 cents is nothing like .22 cents, who knew.
>
The unloaded prices above refer to the 8.6 cents and the 9.75 cents
shown on the bil
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic
Stan Hoeppner grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> On 10/1/2013 12:29 AM, Rhiamom wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> ...
>>> It's quite funny to see someone of your knowledge
On 10/1/2013 12:29 AM, Rhiamom wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
...
>> It's quite funny to see someone of your knowledge level tell me I'm
>> wrong by quoting the cardboard box as your evidence, while I'm
>> demonstrating how the transistors
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 04:40:01 +0200
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> "People convinced against their will are of the same opinion still."
Stan, you know what Jesus said: "cast your pearls before swine and they will
turn
on you and tear you to pieces."
There are opinions and facts. Many now think their o
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 06:40:01 +0200
Doug wrote:
> it's nothing
> like the prices shown unloaded, above.
.21 cents is nothing like .22 cents, who knew.
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 9/29/2013 6:01 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> ...
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors
>>
>> tells me that AMD A4-1250, AMD A6-1450, and E2-1800 all have AMD-V.
>>
>> The E2-1800 has a half-Meg L2 cache, but higher spe
On 10/1/2013 12:38 AM, Doug wrote:
On 09/30/2013 08:15 PM, Charles Kroeger wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:00:03 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
in
Germany in 2012 was around 0.26 €/kWh. (0.26 EUR = 0.351604 USD)
In Western New York last bill was circa 0.21$/KWh
In West Texas for September circa 0
On Tue, 2013-10-01 at 10:04 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 20:15 -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> > On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:00:03 +0200
> > Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > > in
> > > Germany in 2012 was around 0.26 €/kWh. (0.26 EUR = 0.351604 USD)
>
> Btw. this is the statistical m
On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 20:15 -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:00:03 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > in
> > Germany in 2012 was around 0.26 €/kWh. (0.26 EUR = 0.351604 USD)
Btw. this is the statistical mean for Germany.
> In Western New York last bill was circa 0.21$/KWh
>
Sent from my iPad
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>
> Here is a prime example. Where did you arrive at 1.8GB of shared RAM.
> This is silly.
Silly? I admit to being off by .1 gig; it is actually only 1.7 gig as confirmed
by the specs for the HD4600 on the Intel website.
On 09/30/2013 08:15 PM, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:00:03 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> in
>> Germany in 2012 was around 0.26 €/kWh. (0.26 EUR = 0.351604 USD)
>
> In Western New York last bill was circa 0.21$/KWh
>
> In West Texas for September circa 0.14 $/KWh
>
> 1.00
On 9/30/2013 4:32 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>
>> No, no. Context is important here. The OP stated she needed more than
>> 4GB of RAM. I stated that WOW on Wine shouldn't even require 2GB, but
>> for argument's sake, if it did need 2GB, t
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:00:03 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> in
> Germany in 2012 was around 0.26 €/kWh. (0.26 EUR = 0.351604 USD)
In Western New York last bill was circa 0.21$/KWh
In West Texas for September circa 0.14 $/KWh
1.00 EUR = 1.35229 USD Mid-market rates: 2013-10-01 00:12 UTC
What's i
On 9/29/2013 6:01 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
...
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors
>
> tells me that AMD A4-1250, AMD A6-1450, and E2-1800 all have AMD-V.
>
> The E2-1800 has a half-Meg L2 cache, but higher speed CPU (1.7GHz).
>
> The A4-1250 has 1 Meg L2 cache but lowe
On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> No, no. Context is important here. The OP stated she needed more than
> 4GB of RAM. I stated that WOW on Wine shouldn't even require 2GB, but
> for argument's sake, if it did need 2GB, then all of her other stuff
> would easily fit in the re
On 9/28/2013 9:16 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
>
> Le 28.09.2013 22:46, Stan Hoeppner a écrit :
>> On 9/28/2013 8:14 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 28.09.2013 13:33, Stan Hoeppner a écrit :
Hi Catherine,
I haven't caught up with the rest of th
Never waste money on Windows OEM license. If you cannot afford retail license,
better do not buy Windows at all. If you had retail license, you could
reinstall Windows in Legacy mode and then install Linux on other partitions and
you would be able to simply choose which OS to boot from lilo/grub
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Doug wrote:
> On 09/29/2013 06:02 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Doug wrote:
> /snip/
>>>
>>> Do I understand correctly that there are two switching power supply
>>> chips at the input to the CPU to produce 3.3Volts? Obviously, a linera
From http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2011/05/#offtopic ...
Have you ever wanted to discuss things completely unrelated to Debian or
even computers with fellow users or developers? On debian-user the
custom is to put [OT] in the subject and fire away.
Unfortunately, this can be disruptive for un
On Sun, 2013-09-29 at 13:20 -0400, Doug wrote:
> On 09/29/2013 06:47 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sun, 2013-09-29 at 19:02 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> >> I7m confused. Did you mean can't produce a gain in current or power?
> >
> > Assumed there should be a linear voltage regulator able to provide
On Sun, 2013-09-29 at 11:36 -0400, Doug wrote:
> So a linear regulator is a lossy device
law of conservation of energy --->
energy exchange -->
thermal conduction
If you use it as voltage stabiliser + heater, it provides 100%
efficiency too. It's simply a question of the point of view.
;)
--
On 09/29/2013 06:47 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-09-29 at 19:02 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>> I7m confused. Did you mean can't produce a gain in current or power?
>
> Assumed there should be a linear voltage regulator able to provide the
> needed Ampere, how large should the heat sink be? T
On 09/29/2013 06:02 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Doug wrote:
/snip/
>>
>> Do I understand correctly that there are two switching power supply
>> chips at the input to the CPU to produce 3.3Volts? Obviously, a linera
>> regulator cannot produce and gain in current. Iin =
ists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01212.html
>From Johnatan:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01213.html
>From Tom:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01214.html
>From Stephen:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01245.html
>From Stan:
h
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 9/27/2013 6:03 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Tom H wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Stan Hoeppner
>>> wrote:
On 9/26/2013 5:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Stan
On Sun, 2013-09-29 at 19:02 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> I7m confused. Did you mean can't produce a gain in current or power?
Assumed there should be a linear voltage regulator able to provide the
needed Ampere, how large should the heat sink be? The voltage isn't an
issue. By a quick search I found
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Doug wrote:
> On 09/28/2013 03:23 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> On 9/27/2013 6:37 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Stan Hoeppner
>>> wrote:
A point I forgot to make. This is something everyone should know.
Subject: The mark
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:57:43PM -0300, Beco wrote:
> On 26 September 2013 22:22, Tom H wrote:
>
>
> > (I've compiled a kernel on a netbook; you'd better have a few hours to
> > spare...)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines:
You are better off starting
On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 19:15 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> However, another cost saving aspect to this I didn't mention
> previously is component commonality. If a vendor sizes it PSUs
> optimally, most if not every PSU in the line can use the same
> regulator FETs. For instance, a 25A regulator c
Le 28.09.2013 22:46, Stan Hoeppner a écrit :
On 9/28/2013 8:14 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 28.09.2013 13:33, Stan Hoeppner a écrit :
Hi Catherine,
I haven't caught up with the rest of the thread but just wanted to
address a couple points here.
On 9/26/2013 11:12 AM, Cather
On 9/28/2013 3:18 PM, Doug wrote:
> On 09/28/2013 03:23 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> On 9/27/2013 6:37 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Stan Hoeppner
>>> wrote:
A point I forgot to make. This is something everyone should know.
Subject: The marketing myth o
On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 16:55 -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>
> On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Jack Malmostoso
> wrote:
>
> > I was scrolling through the thread and I see you want to add a video
> > card, and I checked on the Zareason website what they offer. I hope
> > you
> > got a power supply
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 16:18:30 -0400
Doug wrote:
> On 09/28/2013 03:23 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> > On 9/27/2013 6:37 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Stan Hoeppner
> >> wrote:
> >>> A point I forgot to make. This is something everyone should know.
> >>>
> >>> Subject:
On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
> I was scrolling through the thread and I see you want to add a video
> card, and I checked on the Zareason website what they offer. I hope you
> got a power supply with more than the 350W standard. I am not sure it
> has enough horsepower to
On 9/28/2013 8:14 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
>
> Le 28.09.2013 13:33, Stan Hoeppner a écrit :
>> Hi Catherine,
>>
>> I haven't caught up with the rest of the thread but just wanted to
>> address a couple points here.
>>
>> On 9/26/2013 11:12 AM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>>>
>>> On
On 09/28/2013 03:23 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 9/27/2013 6:37 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Stan Hoeppner
>> wrote:
>>> A point I forgot to make. This is something everyone should know.
>>>
>>> Subject: The marketing myth of multiple +12V rails
>>> [...]
>>
>> What
On 9/27/2013 6:37 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> A point I forgot to make. This is something everyone should know.
>>
>> Subject: The marketing myth of multiple +12V rails
>> [...]
>
> What I want to know is why Intel CPUs still need the +12V.
T
On 9/27/2013 6:03 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Stan Hoeppner
>> wrote:
>>> On 9/26/2013 5:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Stan Hoeppner
wrote:
> On 9/25/2013 12:52 PM, Catherine
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:00:01 +0200
Catherine Gramze wrote:
> Thank you for the additional info. It sounds a whole lot like what I
> am getting in the Zareason computer I ordered. I am waiting very
> impatiently!
I was scrolling through the thread and I see you want to add a video
card, and I che
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:00:01 +0200
Catherine Gramze wrote:
> Thank you for the additional info. It sounds a whole lot like what I
> am getting in the Zareason computer I ordered. I am waiting very
> impatiently!
I was scrolling through the thread and I see you want to add a video
card, and I che
On Sep 28, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
> The onboard graphics depend on the CPU. In my case, it's HD4600, which
> is the fastest you can get with a socketed CPU.
> It's supported by the Intel driver in Wheezy for most things, however
> now in Sid it is used 100%. I can do light gam
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 16:10:01 +0200
Catherine Gramze wrote:
> Could you
> be so kind as to tell us whether the board came with default settings
> that worked, or whether you needed to make changes in the BIOS?
I had to deactivate the "Secure Boot" option in order to be able to
boot Debian Instal
On Sep 28, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
> I hope I'm not late to the party, but here's my new setup (bought in
> June) which runs Debian Sid without problems:
You may be too late for me, but not late for somebody else. This type of info
is sadly hard to find for the newer motherbo
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:10:01 +0200
Catherine Gramze wrote:
> So, I am looking for recommendations on hardware, particularly
> motherboards, known to play nicely with Debian and boot consistently.
I hope I'm not late to the party, but here's my new setup (bought in
June) which runs Debian Sid wit
Le 28.09.2013 13:33, Stan Hoeppner a écrit :
Hi Catherine,
I haven't caught up with the rest of the thread but just wanted to
address a couple points here.
On 9/26/2013 11:12 AM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Stan Hoeppner
wrote:
What desktop applications are yo
Hi Catherine,
I haven't caught up with the rest of the thread but just wanted to
address a couple points here.
On 9/26/2013 11:12 AM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>
>>
>> What desktop applications are you using that require 8GB, let alone
>> 16G
On 09/28/2013 04:04 AM, David L. Craig wrote:
On 13Sep27:2054+0530, Balamurugan wrote:
On 09/27/2013 04:08 PM, David L. Craig wrote:
Your fact is not. I installed Debian Sid on a G500 a few
months ago and it dual-boots with Win8. The trick is to
use the smaller alternative power button to the
On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 08:25 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> But the upshot is that capacitors are exposed to higher
> voltages and/or effective power than they can handle, and get burned,
> and it is a manufacturing problem, and sometimes an engineering
> problem.
And sometimes vendors knowingly use und
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> A point I forgot to make. This is something everyone should know.
>
> Subject: The marketing myth of multiple +12V rails
> [...]
What I want to know is why Intel CPUs still need the +12V.
Have you considered copying these kinds of posts t
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Doug wrote:
> On 09/27/2013 09:21 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> /snip/
>
>> However, undersized voltage for capacitors for switching power supply is
>> an often used fraud against consumers and switching power supplies
>> pollute the mains. Exotic resistors sometimes m
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 22:57:43 -0400 (EDT), Beco wrote:
>
> Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines:
>
> How long a "considered fast" kernel compilation would last? I'd like to
> have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM / anything else
> relevant)?
>
> Thanks!
On 13Sep27:2054+0530, Balamurugan wrote:
> On 09/27/2013 04:08 PM, David L. Craig wrote:
> >Your fact is not. I installed Debian Sid on a G500 a few
> >months ago and it dual-boots with Win8. The trick is to
> >use the smaller alternative power button to the right of
> >the large power button, wh
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:38 AM, David L. Craig wrote:
> On 13Sep26:2109-0400, Tom H wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan
>> wrote:
>>> On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:
Catherine Gramze wrote:
>
> I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of r
On 09/27/2013 09:21 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
/snip/
> However, undersized voltage for capacitors for switching power supply is
> an often used fraud against consumers and switching power supplies
> pollute the mains. Exotic resistors sometimes make them a PITA when you
> want to repair one and you
On 09/27/2013 04:08 PM, David L. Craig wrote:
On 13Sep26:2109-0400, Tom H wrote:
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan wrote:
On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:
Catherine Gramze wrote:
I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running
Debian. I have had a bad ex
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Tom H wrote:
>> I'd call it obscure rather than magical.
> Any sufficiently obscure technique is indistinguishable from magic - (my
> apologies to Arthur C. Clark).
:)
> On my recent ill-fated Gateway
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 09:02 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On a 2.4 GHz i7-4700MQ laptop with 16 GB of RAM (sorry Stan!)
The question is, if more cores and more RAM really make a difference for
averaged desktop usage. AFAIK more cores and RAM should be important for
video production, but for averaged deskt
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 07:36 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> It simply makes wiring your PC more difficult, as you have to balance
> your 12V devices across an arbitrary boundary placed across the 12V
> output current of your power supply.
> And of course, now you should be asking yourself, given wha
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Beco wrote:
> On 26 September 2013 22:22, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> (I've compiled a kernel on a netbook; you'd better have a few hours to
>> spare...)
>
> Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines:
>
> How long a "considered fast" kernel compilation wo
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 09:30:57AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Building older and current kernels with configurations that are close to
> Debian, Ubuntu or Arch Linux defaults takes around 90 minutes (in the
> past perhaps a little bit less and today perhaps around 120 minutes, I
> need to check t
On 9/26/2013 9:57 PM, Beco wrote:
> Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines:
>
> How long a "considered fast" kernel compilation would last? I'd like to
> have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM / anything else
> relevant)?
This depends entirely on what you
A point I forgot to make. This is something everyone should know.
Subject: The marketing myth of multiple +12V rails
Switching regulator MOSFETs provide the 3.3, 5/5VSB, and 12VDC output
current of a PC PSU. Before the days of waffle iron CPUs and GPUs, PSUs
had a single 12V regulator providin
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> On 9/26/2013 5:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Stan Hoeppner
>>> wrote:
On 9/25/2013 12:52 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>>>
>>> Stan, joking aside, are ther
On 13Sep26:2109-0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan wrote:
> > On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> >> Catherine Gramze wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running
> >>> Debian. I have had a bad experience with a store-b
On 9/26/2013 12:34 PM, Doug wrote:
> On 09/26/2013 01:05 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> On 9/25/2013 12:52 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>>>
>
> /very large snip/
>
> I just left this final section to illustrate the tome of the whole thing:
>
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 09:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 23:57 -0300, Beco wrote:
> > How long a "considered fast" kernel compilation would last? I'd like
> > to have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM /
> > anything else relevant)?
>
> Building older an
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 23:57 -0300, Beco wrote:
> How long a "considered fast" kernel compilation would last? I'd like
> to have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM /
> anything else relevant)?
Building older and current kernels with configurations that are close to
Debian, Ubun
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>
> I contacted MSI to ask if they made a motherboard I could use. Here is the
> exchange:
>
> Me: I want to purchase a motherboard for a Linux computer. I would prefer
> one that would accept the new Haswell processor. The BIOS must allow f
On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Tom H wrote:
> I'd call it obscure rather than magical.
Any sufficiently obscure technique is indistinguishable from magic - (my
apologies to Arthur C. Clark).
On my recent ill-fated Gateway it took spamming the delete key during boot, and
then once the login sc
On 26 September 2013 22:22, Tom H wrote:
> (I've compiled a kernel on a netbook; you'd better have a few hours to
> spare...)
>
>
>
>
Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines:
How long a "considered fast" kernel compilation would last? I'd like to
have a clue. And in what kind
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Rob Owens wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 08:11:31PM -0700, Dan Hitt wrote:
>>
>> This is regarding the question of what computer hardware to buy that
>> will work with debian, given that store-bought computers were a
>> problem this latest time.
>>
>> First, wha
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 9/26/2013 5:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Stan Hoeppner
>> wrote:
>>> On 9/25/2013 12:52 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>>
>> Stan, joking aside, are there any AMD processors you would recommend
>> for doing ke
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan wrote:
> On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:
>> Catherine Gramze wrote:
>>>
>>> I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running
>>> Debian. I have had a bad experience with a store-bought computer,
>>> which seemed to be wholly u
On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Charles Kroeger
wrote:
>>
>> Can Charles Kroeger give a source for his information?
>
> He can:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface
>
> sub heading: "Platforms using EFI/UEFI" 10th paragraph down
I figured you could, CK. Tha
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 21:50:01 +0200
Catherine Gramze wrote:
> I have received a response from MSI again. I do like the swiftness of their
> email
responses, even if the responses are a bit cryptic. >
> Me: Please advise me as to whether this motherboard:
http://us.msi.com/product/mb/H87-G43.html
I have received a response from MSI again. I do like the swiftness of their
email responses, even if the responses are a bit cryptic.
Me: Please advise me as to whether this motherboard:
http://us.msi.com/product/mb/H87-G43.html#/?div=Overview
1. allows Secure Boot to be disabled and
2. whethe
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 01:45:20PM -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>
> I contacted MSI to ask if they made a motherboard I could use. Here is the
> exchange:
>
> Me: I want to purchase a motherboard for a Linux computer. I would prefer one
> that would accept the new Haswell processor. The BIOS
On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Darko Gavrilovic wrote:
>
>> What's the motherboard model number? A quick Google indicates you may
>> not be able to disable UEFI but you can enable legacy compatibility
>> mode for MSI m/b's.
>
> The speci
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 14:02 -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Ralf Mardorf
> wrote:
>
> > I don't know any vendor, for any kind of hardware, that does support
> > Linux, even not the Linux friendly vendors that cooperate with the
> > Linux
> > community usually don'
On 09/26/13 10:45, Catherine Gramze wrote:
I contacted MSI to ask if they made a motherboard I could use. ...
This looks to me like a stock refusal to even consider a technical question ...
Ideas:
1. Pick a motherboard and start a fresh post with the make and model in
the subject -- e.g. "MS
On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Darko Gavrilovic wrote:
> What's the motherboard model number? A quick Google indicates you may
> not be able to disable UEFI but you can enable legacy compatibility
> mode for MSI m/b's.
The specific model I am considering is the MSI H87-43G.
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On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I don't know any vendor, for any kind of hardware, that does support
> Linux, even not the Linux friendly vendors that cooperate with the Linux
> community usually don't support Linux. That Linux isn't supported,
> doesn't mean that they don't c
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 13:45 -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote:
> MSI tech: MSI does not perform and provide any Linux support for mb,
> only Windows.
I don't know any vendor, for any kind of hardware, that does support
Linux, even not the Linux friendly vendors that cooperate with the Linux
community
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