Re: Backups - was Re: LVM

2010-06-16 Thread Alan Chandler
On 15/06/10 14:31, Tom Furie wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 01:02:47PM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: On 15/06/10 12:44, Alan Chandler wrote: The real magic command is "cp -alf" which essentially merges a shorter term store with a longer term one, making new entries where the shorter store has a

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/16/2010 05:45 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 6/15/2010 10:59 AM: I wrote a script that only backs up our data directories (including much of /home) into a bunch of tarballs, excluding "junk" folders like caches, thumbnails, trash, etc, and compressing most but not stuff

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-16 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 14:14:22 Camaleón wrote: > Many people send the replies to me directly and I am not sure > whether if they are full aware of that (intentionally off-list) or this > is just the famous Gmail's webmail "non-reply-to-list-but-sender" > error :-) I forgot that Gmail does that

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-16 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 14:14:22 Camaleón wrote: > but I asked you why you were so reluctant to use > differential backups on her computer. I couldn't understand "why" because > today backup tasks are just "point-and-click", I mean, they are easier to > achieve than any image generation of the wh

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-16 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:05:56 +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 16 June 2010 08:41:03 Camaleón wrote: >> El 2010-06-15 a las 22:58 +0100, Lisi escribió: >> >> (resending to the list) > > Sorry. I debated whether to send it to you or the list, and decided > that it was OT for the list since I was

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 6/15/2010 10:59 AM: > I wrote a script that only backs up our data directories (including much > of /home) into a bunch of tarballs, excluding "junk" folders like > caches, thumbnails, trash, etc, and compressing most but not stuff like > image and OOo document directories

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-16 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 08:41:03 Camaleón wrote: > El 2010-06-15 a las 22:58 +0100, Lisi escribió: > > (resending to the list) Sorry. I debated whether to send it to you or the list, and decided that it was OT for the list since I was commenting on a specific sentence of your that wasn't stri

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-16 Thread Camaleón
El 2010-06-15 a las 22:58 +0100, Lisi escribió: (resending to the list) > On Tuesday 15 June 2010 19:44:33 Camaleón wrote: > > But it's "her" backup and "her" data. She should care about how to do > > things like these, whatever place she is (home, university, work...). > > I was forgetting that

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 06:49:25PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 15 June 2010 18:06:51 Camaleón wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:48:04 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > > On Tuesday 15 June 2010 14:40:44 Camaleón wrote: > > >> I would differentiate between "backup" data and "archived" data. > > > > (...) >

Re: an apology - was Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/15/2010 05:02 PM, Lisi wrote: Sorry for duplicate everybody. The list has been rejecting my emails with my usual SMTP set up. This means that I may think that something has gone when it hasn't or vice versa. Something like that happened to me a year or so ago when my ISP got much stri

an apology - was Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Lisi
Sorry for duplicate everybody. The list has been rejecting my emails with my usual SMTP set up. This means that I may think that something has gone when it hasn't or vice versa. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 19:09:28 Ron Johnson wrote: > *Teach* her. She's in Uni, correct? Thus, she should be > responsible enough to take care of her own data by sticking in a USB > drive and running a script. Two people divided by a common language No, she's at school, where school in thi

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 19:09:28 Ron Johnson wrote: > *Teach* her.  She's in Uni, correct?  Thus, she should be > responsible enough to take care of her own data by sticking in a USB > drive and running a script. Two people divided by a common language No, she's at school, where school in thi

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/15/2010 01:18 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] I think the OP said something like: I have 1.3 TB and it's too big to backup. This of course is patently ridiculous. meh. Right. You're a fool to buy a Lexus if you can't afford the (way more than bare legal minimum) auto insurance

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:49:25 +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 15 June 2010 18:06:51 Camaleón wrote: >> Why not practical? Just curious O:-) > > Because I shan't have hold of the computer for long enough or often > enough! But it's "her" backup and "her" data. She should care about how to do thi

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 09:27:47PM +1000, Alexander Samad wrote: > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Lisi wrote: > > Please excuse the thread breaking.  I have suddenly been being rejected by > > the > > list server and am sending for the third time.  I hope that the list server > > is now happy w

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:59:46AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/15/2010 09:48 AM, Lisi wrote: > > > >Thanks for this. I was originally responding to Andrew's saying: > > > >There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big > >enough to hold the data. > > > > > >I can thin

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/15/2010 12:49 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 15 June 2010 18:06:51 Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:48:04 +0100, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 15 June 2010 14:40:44 Camaleón wrote: I would differentiate between "backup" data and "archived" data. (...) Thanks for this. I was originally re

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 18:06:51 Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:48:04 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 June 2010 14:40:44 Camaleón wrote: > >> I would differentiate between "backup" data and "archived" data. > > (...) > > > Thanks for this. I was originally responding to Andrew's say

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/15/2010 05:32 AM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 15 June 2010 01:25:56 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big enough to hold the data. Would you feel inclined to elaborate? I'm trying to solve this problem for my

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:48:04 +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 15 June 2010 14:40:44 Camaleón wrote: >> I would differentiate between "backup" data and "archived" data. (...) > Thanks for this. I was originally responding to Andrew's saying: > > There are many many ways to make take backups bey

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/15/2010 09:48 AM, Lisi wrote: Thanks for this. I was originally responding to Andrew's saying: There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big enough to hold the data. I can think of very few - and was interested in what he was thinking of. Incremental/differenti

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/15/2010 05:32 AM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 15 June 2010 01:25:56 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big enough to hold the data. Would you feel inclined to elaborate? I'm trying to solve this problem for my granddaughter's large

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 14:40:44 Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:32:15 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 June 2010 01:25:56 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big > >> enough to hold the data. > > > > Would you feel incli

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:32:15 +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 15 June 2010 01:25:56 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big >> enough to hold the data. > > Would you feel inclined to elaborate? I'm trying to solve this problem > for m

Re: Backups - was Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 01:02:47PM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > On 15/06/10 12:44, Alan Chandler wrote: > >> The real magic command is "cp -alf" which essentially merges a shorter >> term store with a longer term one, making new entries where the shorter >> store has a file that isn't in the longe

Re: Backups - was Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Alan Chandler
On 15/06/10 12:44, Alan Chandler wrote: The real magic command is "cp -alf" which essentially merges a shorter term store with a longer term one, making new entries where the shorter store has a file that isn't in the longer term store, and overwriting it where the shorter term store has a file

Re: Backups - was Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Alan Chandler
On 15/06/10 11:36, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 15 June 2010 01:25:56 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big enough to hold the data. Would you feel inclined to elaborate? I'm trying to solve this problem for my granddaughter's large HDD,

Re: Backups - was: Re: LVM

2010-06-15 Thread Alexander Samad
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Lisi wrote: > Please excuse the thread breaking.  I have suddenly been being rejected by the > list server and am sending for the third time.  I hope that the list server > is now happy with my SMTP settings. > > On Tuesday 15 June 2010 01:25:56 Andrew Sackville-We