Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-09 Thread PMA
Speaking for myself -- Sometimes an off-topic email perks my interest so powerfully that, defying all reason of course, I neglect to disassociate the off-topic from the topic that it was off. I shall try harder now in such situations to discipline my response. PA Weaver wrote: On Sat, 08 Oct

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/10/11 09:26, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 10/8/2011 4:59 PM, Weaver wrote: > >> It's a pity that's not the case, as I sometimes have a question >> regarding firewalls, etc and take it to the firewall list, yet the >> number of questions regarding firewalls I have seen on 'debian-user' >> probab

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Weaver
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:26:24 -0500 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 10/8/2011 4:59 PM, Weaver wrote: > > > It's a pity that's not the case, as I sometimes have a question > > regarding firewalls, etc and take it to the firewall list, yet the > > number of questions regarding firewalls I have seen on 'd

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/8/2011 4:59 PM, Weaver wrote: > It's a pity that's not the case, as I sometimes have a question > regarding firewalls, etc and take it to the firewall list, yet the > number of questions regarding firewalls I have seen on 'debian-user' > probably far out-number those on 'firewall'. > > This

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Weaver
On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:46:11 -0700 Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:24:07AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > > On 10/06/2011 06:32 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > >All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more > > >difficult to assist those who actually need help with De

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Freeman
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:24:07AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On 10/06/2011 06:32 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more > >difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian. > > If you are using an MUA that supports threading,

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Terence
On 8 October 2011 20:22, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > If you all are true believers in off topic posting, as you have so > vigorously defended, why don't we _all_ commit ourselves to making one > OT post per day and see where that leads? Actually I am not one of " true believers in off topic posting"

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/8/2011 8:25 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > I can honestly say that I've yet to find this a problem - either when > googling or going through list archives. Searches ALWAYS find lots of > extraneous material and have to be narrowed down. When looking for > technical information, things get ver

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 02:01:40 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > I've been trying like h3ll to avoid another response to this for obvious > reasons. > ... I have too. But it appears that I need to speak up on list. (I've previously apologized to Stan off list.) I hereby offer my most humble a

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-08 Thread Miles Fidelman
Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 10/7/2011 7:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: I've been trying like h3ll to avoid another response to this for obvious reasons. Me too. But... But a point needs to be raised that everyone should read and comprehend. OT messages get archived with the rest. Depending on t

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-07 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/7/2011 7:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 07/10/11 07:32, Weaver wrote: >> What I have seen, with the clearly marked OT threads is the ability to >> ignore/delete them > > Agreed. I've been trying like h3ll to avoid another response to this for obvious reasons. But a point needs to be ra

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-07 Thread Weaver
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 11:58:39 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 07/10/11 07:32, Weaver wrote: > > On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:15:07 -0400 > > Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > >> Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >>> All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it > >>> more difficult to assist those wh

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 07/10/11 07:32, Weaver wrote: > On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:15:07 -0400 > Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> Stan Hoeppner wrote: >>> All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more >>> difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian. Agreed (Stan), but unfortunately,

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-07 Thread Joey Hess
Weaver wrote: > The point has often been made that this list is for Debian 'Users' and > not therefore strictly Debian subject matter. I think a bit of social > interaction does have the tendency to create 'community' which is > Debian's strength, so it could be viewed as productive. While this is

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-06 Thread shawn wilson
I totally agree with what Weaver said. On Oct 6, 2011 4:31 PM, "Weaver" wrote: > On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:15:07 -0400 > Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> > All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more >> > difficult to assist those who actually need help with

Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-06 Thread Weaver
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:15:07 -0400 Miles Fidelman wrote: > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more > > difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian. > > > > Debian is an OS for _mature_ Linux users. Please act like one and > >