Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 21 September 2006 04:10, Carl Fink wrote: > On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 11:52:13PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 19:23 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > handful of uses! And make it an absolute nightmare to buy foreign > > > movies while travelling internationally that

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 03:45:42PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >Gee, that looks suspiciously like a phrase that 2nd Amendments > >"nuts" have been using for 30ish years. > > Oh no. Yet another foray into politics. > I almost didn't send that previous message, but my mus

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-22 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: Gee, that looks suspiciously like a phrase that 2nd Amendments "nuts" have been using for 30ish years. Oh no. Yet another foray into politics. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have foun

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/22/06 13:07, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 07:10:04AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: >> ... in the USA, realize that you have violated the Digital Millennium >> Copyright Act and are now a criminal. > > frequently seen t-shirt

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 07:10:04AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > > ... in the USA, realize that you have violated the Digital Millennium > Copyright Act and are now a criminal. frequently seen t-shirt in these parts: When freedom is outlawed, only outlaws will be free. /me runs to flame-proof shelt

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-21 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 11:52:13PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote: > On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 19:23 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > handful of uses! And make it an absolute nightmare to buy foreign movies > > while travelling internationally that will play when I get home! > > If you're talking about regi

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 06:31:58PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 20 September 2006 23:52, Scarletdown wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 19:23 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > handful of uses! And make it an absolute nightmare to buy foreign movies > > > while travelling internationally

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 20 September 2006 23:52, Scarletdown wrote: > On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 19:23 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > handful of uses! And make it an absolute nightmare to buy foreign movies > > while travelling internationally that will play when I get home! > > If you're talking about region cod

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-21 Thread Scarletdown
On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 09:18 -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 23:52 -0700, Scarletdown wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 19:23 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > handful of uses! And make it an absolute nightmare to buy foreign movies > > > while travelling internationally that will

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-21 Thread derek
I always just mount the dvd,and play the video file directly.I dont really care about the menu's or anything.On 9/21/06, Owen Heisler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 23:52 -0700, Scarletdown wrote: > On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 19:23 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:> > handful of uses!  And ma

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-21 Thread Owen Heisler
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 23:52 -0700, Scarletdown wrote: > On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 19:23 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > handful of uses! And make it an absolute nightmare to buy foreign movies > > while travelling internationally that will play when I get home! > > If you're talking about region code

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-20 Thread Scarletdown
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 19:23 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > handful of uses! And make it an absolute nightmare to buy foreign movies > while travelling internationally that will play when I get home! If you're talking about region codes, that's a trivial matter to bypass. 1: Use something like vob

RE: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-16 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 15 September 2006 21:57, "Seth Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > The individual making the accusation/insult here also has politics. >  No one can say another's political affiliation makes their ideas > worthless without calli

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > I really have to wonder what happened to Steve anyway. He and I used to get > along quite well on this list We never got along. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... -

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 15 September 2006 10:23, Seth Goodman wrote: > On Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:28 PM -0500, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Paul Johnson wrote: > > > How am I a proponent of Big Brother? I would say that's a pretty > > > empty accusation, especially coming from someone who doesn't know > > > me

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 15 September 2006 03:21, Tom Allison wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > But Apple already does sell machines with UNIX pre-installed. And thanks > > to that, Apple now controls a whopping 6% of the desktop market now, as > > opposed to Linux's 13%. > > Where do you get this information? W

RE: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-15 Thread Seth Goodman
On Friday, September 15, 2006 3:58 PM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: > On Friday 15 September 2006 16:46, "Seth Goodman" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > I don't think that turning a political affiliation into a dirty > > word benefits anyone.  It certainly prevents rational discourse. > >

RE: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-15 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 15 September 2006 16:46, "Seth Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > I don't think that turning a political affiliation into a dirty > word benefits anyone.  It certainly prevents rational discourse. Politics has nothing to do wi

RE: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-15 Thread Seth Goodman
On Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:28 PM -0500, Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > How am I a proponent of Big Brother? I would say that's a pretty > > empty accusation, especially coming from someone who doesn't know > > me. > > Your publicly announced political affiliation pretty m

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 14 September 2006 20:27, Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > How am I a proponent of Big Brother? I would say that's a pretty empty > > accusation, especially coming from someone who doesn't know me. > > Your publicly announced political affiliation pretty much is all that

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-15 Thread Tom Allison
Paul Johnson wrote: But Apple already does sell machines with UNIX pre-installed. And thanks to that, Apple now controls a whopping 6% of the desktop market now, as opposed to Linux's 13%. Where do you get this information? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-15 Thread Zbigniew Wiech
For sure will not Since I "discovered" linux for myself I can see it's used everywhere in professional applications - LANs, ISP, hosting. I cannot imagine any company would switch to something more expensive and less sure (new), untill linux works well. Linux GUIs (KDE, Gnome) is something new.

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-14 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > How am I a proponent of Big Brother? I would say that's a pretty empty > accusation, especially coming from someone who doesn't know me. Your publicly announced political affiliation pretty much is all that is need to be known about you. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 20:13, Steve Lamb wrote: > K. Richard Pixley wrote: > > The linux market hasn't really ever competed in those markets. There > > aren't any serious photography apps, video editing apps, etc. What will > > hurt linux in the market place is DRM. I can play dvd's on m

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 20:51, Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wednesday 13 September 2006 19:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Big Brother!! > > > > Yes indeed. You should be concerned about such things or they become the > > norm for worse. A great man once told me, "O

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-14 Thread David E. Fox
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:24:40 -0700 "K. Richard Pixley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The linux market hasn't really ever competed in those markets. There > aren't any serious photography apps, video editing apps, etc. What will > hurt linux in the market place is DRM. I can play dvd's on my m

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-14 Thread M-L
On Friday 15 September 2006 07:03, Derek shared this with us all: >--> I dont see how anything apple puts out can bury linux.Ive been using OS > X --> since 10.1 came out,its really nothing special.I much prefer my Linux > box. --> Support OS X as well as Linux? Sounds fair. -- Registered Linux

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-14 Thread Derek
I dont see how anything apple puts out can bury linux.Ive been using OS X  since 10.1 came out,its really nothing special.I much prefer my Linux box.

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-14 Thread T.J. Duchene
Hi everyone: I will not respond to this on the user list after this post, unless I deem it absolutely necessary. It could easy develop into a flame war, and so I won't encourage it. In my opinion, this topic has nothing to do with Debian specifically, so this discussion has no place on a deb

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-14 Thread Ottavio Caruso
Mike McCarty wrote: > > If Apple is going to start shipping > machines with UNIX pre-installed, and with a nice support package > to go with it, and make it "user friendly", then it might overtake > Linux. Excuse my ignorance, but what is ... Linucs? A kernel, an operating system, what? I have b

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-14 Thread Adrian Midgley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Boycoting is a good idea, but only if everyone else follows with it. If >> the movie companies keep getting the sales, nothing will change. It needs >> to be a joint effort to take back our FREEDOM to own what we BUY! >> >> It doesn't really need that. Taken to

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread julian
> > So says a proponent of Big Brother. Irony abound. > Boycoting is a good idea, but only if everyone else follows with it. If the movie companies keep getting the sales, nothing will change. It needs to be a joint effort to take back our FREEDOM to own what we BUY! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 13 September 2006 19:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Big Brother!! > Yes indeed. You should be concerned about such things or they become the > norm > for worse. A great man once told me, "Only the paranoid survive." So says a proponent of Big Brothe

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 19:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Big Brother!! Yes indeed. You should be concerned about such things or they become the norm for worse. A great man once told me, "Only the paranoid survive." -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread Steve Lamb
K. Richard Pixley wrote: > The linux market hasn't really ever competed in those markets. There > aren't any serious photography apps, video editing apps, etc. What will > hurt linux in the market place is DRM. I can play dvd's on my mac. I > can't on most out-of-the-box linux distributions.

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Richard wrote: > http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/08/29/36OPcurve_1.html > Make sure you click the TALK BACK to us link, and tell Tom what > you really think of his article... I think he has a point. I mean I want an OSX machine because of it's hybrid nature. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread julian
> What's so wrong with boycotting movies that get released in a > freedom-inhibiting manner? You have to infringing on fair use expensive, > and > by far the worst way to do that is buy the movie, shrug and say "What are > you > going to do?" > > DVD makers don't hear "DRM sucks donkey balls for

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 11:14, Mike McCarty wrote: > Richard wrote: > > Here is a nice article I just got done reading and replying to: > > > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/08/29/36OPcurve_1.html > > > > Make sure you click the TALK BACK to us link, and tell Tom what > > you really th

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 11:24, K. Richard Pixley wrote: > The linux market hasn't really ever competed in those markets. There > aren't any serious photography apps, video editing apps, etc. What will > hurt linux in the market place is DRM. I can play dvd's on my mac. I > can't on most

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread K. Richard Pixley
Mike McCarty wrote: Richard wrote: Here is a nice article I just got done reading and replying to: http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/08/29/36OPcurve_1.html Make sure you click the TALK BACK to us link, and tell Tom what you really think of his article... Hmm. I think he may be right. I

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread Mike McCarty
Richard wrote: Here is a nice article I just got done reading and replying to: http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/08/29/36OPcurve_1.html Make sure you click the TALK BACK to us link, and tell Tom what you really think of his article... Hmm. I think he may be right. If Apple is going to star