Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-19 Thread Ilya Martynov
> "WL" == William Leese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: WL> having taken a quick look at my providers homepage (which, i WL> admit i should have done first.. but i'm used to ISP pages WL> with nothing but marketing talk) i found something on WL> pop-ssl. However aparently i need an

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 02:03:01PM +0100, William Leese wrote: > having taken a quick look at my providers homepage (which, i admit i should > have done first.. but i'm used to ISP pages with nothing but marketing talk) > i found something on pop-ssl. However aparently i need an email client tha

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-19 Thread William Leese
> > > > knowing basically nothing about imap and ssl where would i look first > > > > to see if this is suitable and how it can be used? > > > > > > check to see if they have the imap-ssl port open (i don't know it > > > offhand) or the pop3-ssl... they probably don't. > > > > yatsu:$ nmap -sS p

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 03:24:09AM +0100, William Leese wrote: > On Monday 19 March 2001 00:41, Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 05:04:02PM +0100, William Leese wrote: > > > knowing basically nothing about imap and ssl where would i look first to > > > see if this is suitable and how

RE: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-19 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Joris Lambrecht wrote: > I asssumed cable modems were encrypting there communications with some > simple built-in algorithm It is my understanding that modern DOCSIS modems use encryption between the cable modem and the cable head end. The motorola cybersufr brand has been d

RE: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-19 Thread Joris Lambrecht
I asssumed cable modems were encrypting there communications with some simple built-in algorithm -Original Message- From: Ethan Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zondag 18 maart 2001 14:59 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Linux Network Security: POP On Sun, Mar 18

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread William Leese
On Monday 19 March 2001 00:41, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 05:04:02PM +0100, William Leese wrote: > > knowing basically nothing about imap and ssl where would i look first to > > see if this is suitable and how it can be used? > > check to see if they have the imap-ssl port open (

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Phil Brutsche
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > unless they changed something in the last year or so, come to alaska > and get GCI's cable modems, i have personally seen where every packet > sent across the network is happily deposited in

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 11:13:08AM -0800, David Steinberg wrote: > > OTOH, then you have another service running, which makes you that much > more open to being cracked. It's not a bad thing in and of itself, but it > does demand that you keep up to date with security announcements for that > pac

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 12:13:37PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > Bzzzt. This is simply not true with DOCSIS modems (if you can cite a > provable example I'd love to hear about it). It's also not true with > LANCity Gen3 modems at least. It might work with the super-old Zenith > stuff but I

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 05:04:02PM +0100, William Leese wrote: > knowing basically nothing about imap and ssl where would i look first to see > if this is suitable and how it can be used? check to see if they have the imap-ssl port open (i don't know it offhand) or the pop3-ssl... they probably

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread David Steinberg
On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > if you have a static ip and your connection is actually stable you > could just run your own mailserver and have mail delivered directly to > it. that way you don't need pop3 or imap. no passwords sent anywhere > that way. OTOH, then you have another se

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 04:59:23AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 03:38:36PM +0100, William Leese wrote: > > Having a cable modem I'm concerned with the fact that when I use email my > > password is sent in clear text over the network. I've heard that there were > > as you

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Phil Brutsche
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > Having a cable modem I'm concerned with the fact that when I use email my > password is sent in clear text over the network. I've heard that there were > other services that could be used in

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread William Leese
> > other services that could be used instead of POP but i'm not sure if that > > can be used here if my provider doesnt support it. > > imap over ssl maybe.. knowing basically nothing about imap and ssl where would i look first to see if this is suitable and how it can be used? > > For my email

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 03:38:36PM +0100, William Leese wrote: > Having a cable modem I'm concerned with the fact that when I use email my > password is sent in clear text over the network. I've heard that there were as you should be, cable modems generally are equivilent to large unswitched lan