Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 05:01:04AM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > > Communities are all-or-nothing. Either you participate or you don't. > > Making it harder for legitimate mail to get to you is not a great > > idea, not every response is appropriate

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 07:51:57AM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > >You clearly wanted to get in your comment about the > >allowing-non-subscribed-addresses-to-post policy, but that is entirely > >irrelevant to this thread (which is not about spam being delivered > >through t

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-20 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 07:24:41PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Colin Watson wrote: While I appreciate that you have an axe you want to grind here, that's totally irrelevant in this case. Wouldn't that mean I have something against someone? You clearly wanted to get in you

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-20 Thread Carla Schroder
On Thursday 20 March 2003 12:27 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 04:04:35PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > > I don't know how to operate a mail list, so I don't know what it > > takes to prevent addresses from being harvested. I'd like it to be > > impossible for addresses to be

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:11:46AM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > well now that we are here, let me ask, is there any way to tell KMail, to > delete all messages with .EXE attachments? It's easier to use procmail to filter out against mimetypes, like ap

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-20 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 23:57, Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote: > Gianfranco Berardi wrote: > > Jeremy Gaddis wrote: > >> Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it > >> was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had > >> an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, o

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-20 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 22:36, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: > Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it > was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had > an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, of course, > a virus, if anyone had any doubts. Yeah, It's funny, s

Re: Check the update from Microsoft. - reporting

2003-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:46:48PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > and better still cc it to the gov entity responsible for > handling/prosecuting that spam > - the FTC is currently collecting and prosecuting the > 20 year old and still successfu

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:04:09AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I for one no longer wish to receive off-list replies. The privilege is > too-much abused by spammers. So treat the cause, not the symptoms. Treating the symptoms only results in si

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 04:04:35PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > I don't know how to operate a mail list, so I don't know what it > takes to prevent addresses from being harvested. I'd like it to be > impossible for addresses to be sucked off a lis

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 07:00:05PM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: > Yes, and there are many who read this list on Windows-based also. > Many people read it from the office where they may be forced to > use Outlook or another Windows e-mail client. Doesn'

RE: Check the update from Microsoft. - reporting

2003-03-20 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
-Original Message- From: Alvin Oga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:47 AM To: Paul Johnson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Check the update from Microsoft. - reporting - and i still like the immediate action that the incoming spam bounces back to the

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 10:57:53PM +0100, Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote: > Oh yes, and many other with you. lucky that my mailserver picks it up, > reject the mail and just return an note about it:) Please turn off any virus scanner autoresponders. They

Re: Check the update from Microsoft. - reporting

2003-03-20 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:45:11PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > > signed up for this list less than a month ago. Within a week I > > started getting spam on my list address, which seriously s

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:24:56PM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: > Then there is also the time-honored usenet practice of requesting > that all replies be directed to the original poster, who will then > post a summary of the replies at a later date. N

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 07:48:03PM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: > Again, I disagree. People who have problems with their debian > systems should be able to obtain help without subjecting themselves > to the hundreds of messages per day which are gener

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:45:11PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > signed up for this list less than a month ago. Within a week I > started getting spam on my list address, which seriously sucks, > death to all spammers. I've been toying with the notion

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 07:24:41PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > >On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 04:35:40PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > >>Colin Ellis wrote: > >>>Who sent this and what the hell does it have to do with debian??!! > >>> > >>>Maybe we need a stronger anti-spam l

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 08:59:30AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > yes I recieved the message to, but of course I did not send it. The > > To: header for that thing was huge, as colin pointed out it was sent > > to the list members off list, it did not come through the

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Dave Thayer
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 03:36:00PM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: > Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it > was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had > an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, of course, > a virus, if anyone had any doubts. > > j. > >

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 08:18:14PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Dave Sherohman wrote: I disagree. Replies should go where the person sending the reply wants them to go, with consideration for any request which may be made by the poster of the message being replied to. Sa

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 08:18:14PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > Dave Sherohman wrote: > >I disagree. Replies should go where the person sending the reply > >wants them to go, with consideration for any request which may be > >made by the poster of the message being replied to. Say, for > > I

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 05:45:14PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:45:11PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: A list manager that hides subscriber's addresses would be nice. Umm... Wouldn't that make offlist replies impossible?

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:04:09AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's faily easy. The list managet (software or person) has to munge everything > that looks like an email address so it becomes unusable. Oooohhh... Even better! Now, if I find someone on the list that wants to work on a proje

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 05:45:14PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > Dave Sherohman wrote: > >On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:45:11PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > >>A list manager that hides subscriber's addresses would be nice. > >Umm... Wouldn't that make offlist replies impossible? > If you want

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 04:35:40PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Colin Ellis wrote: Who sent this and what the hell does it have to do with debian??!! Maybe we need a stronger anti-spam list to stop this crap appearing on the list?! It's called not letting non-subscribed per

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread debian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > On Wednesday 19 March 2003 3:11 pm, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:45:11PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > > A list manager that hides subscriber's addresses would be nice. > > Umm... Wouldn't that make offlist replies impossible? I for one no longer

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread debian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > yes I recieved the message to, but of course I did not send it. The > To: header for that thing was huge, as colin pointed out it was sent > to the list members off list, it did not come through the debian mail > system. And that, for Colin Watson's benefit, is why the

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 03:36:00PM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: > Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it > was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had > an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, of course, >

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Jeremy Gaddis wrote: -Original Message- From: Joseph A Nagy Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Check the update from Microsoft. It's called not letting non-subscribed persons post to the list. Then you wouldn

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 04:35:40PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > Colin Ellis wrote: > >Who sent this and what the hell does it have to do with debian??!! > > > >Maybe we need a stronger anti-spam list to stop this crap appearing on the > >list?! > > It's called not letting non-subscribed person

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread nate
Hall Stevenson said: > I rec'd the message and I by no means know the person who sent it. I did > glance at the "To:" list and saw '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' or something > similar. I didn't look at any "cc" or "bcc" lists though. I wasn't gonna reply to this thread but you brought me into it!! ack..

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:45:11PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > On Wednesday 19 March 2003 2:09 pm, Colin Watson wrote: > > If you mean the original spam, it didn't appear on the list; it was sent > > privately to some of the list's subscribers. If you're talking about the > > discussion, well, I

RE: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
> -Original Message- > From: Joseph A Nagy Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Check the update from Microsoft. > > > > It's called not letting non-subscribed persons post to the

RE: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
> -Original Message- > From: Hall Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it > >was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had > >an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, of course, > >a virus, if anyone had any

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Carla Schroder
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 3:11 pm, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:45:11PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > > A list manager that hides subscriber's addresses would be nice. > > Umm... Wouldn't that make offlist replies impossible? I don't know how to operate a mail list, so I

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:45:11PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: A list manager that hides subscriber's addresses would be nice. Umm... Wouldn't that make offlist replies impossible? If you want an offlist reply, you can set the reply-to to your addy. Otherwise all replie

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:45:11PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > A list manager that hides subscriber's addresses would be nice. Umm... Wouldn't that make offlist replies impossible? -- The freedoms that we enjoy presently are the most important victories of the White Hats over the past severa

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030319 17:44]: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:36:25PM -, Colin Ellis wrote: > > Who sent this and what the hell does it have to do with debian??!! > > > > Maybe we need a stronger anti-spam list to stop this crap appearing on the > > list?! > > If you mean th

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Carla Schroder
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 2:09 pm, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:36:25PM -, Colin Ellis wrote: > > Who sent this and what the hell does it have to do with debian??!! > > > > Maybe we need a stronger anti-spam list to stop this crap appearing on > > the list?! > > If you mean

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Colin Ellis wrote: Who sent this and what the hell does it have to do with debian??!! Maybe we need a stronger anti-spam list to stop this crap appearing on the list?! Colin http://www.solution-city.com It's called not letting non-subscribed persons post to the list. -- http://mc-luug.homelinux

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Alan Shutko
"Colin Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Maybe we need a stronger anti-spam list to stop this crap appearing on the > list?! Most of the spam tool authors don't do anything about viruses. They just tell you to run antivirus software. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. Look

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread James Tappin
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 15:36:00 -0500 "Jeremy Gaddis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it > was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had > an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, of course, > a virus, if anyone had any doub

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:36:25PM -, Colin Ellis wrote: > Who sent this and what the hell does it have to do with debian??!! > > Maybe we need a stronger anti-spam list to stop this crap appearing on the > list?! If you mean the original spam, it didn't appear on the list; it was sent privat

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Ernst-Magne Vindal
Gianfranco Berardi wrote: Jeremy Gaddis wrote: Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, of course, a virus, if anyone had any doubts. j. OYou mean Microsoft DID

RE: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Colin Ellis
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Check the update from Microsoft. At 03:36 PM 3/19/2003 -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: >Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it >was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had >an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, of c

Re: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Gianfranco Berardi
Jeremy Gaddis wrote: Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, of course, a virus, if anyone had any doubts. j. OYou mean Microsoft DIDN'T send a patch to fix my

RE: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 03:36 PM 3/19/2003 -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, of course, a virus, if anyone had any doubts. Doesn't appear to have concerned

RE: Check the update from Microsoft.

2003-03-19 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, of course, a virus, if anyone had any doubts. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -