Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-13 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Andrei Popescu put forth on 2/9/2011 9:32 AM: > On Mi, 09 feb 11, 16:01:32, Boblitz John wrote: >> We are running a ProReliant server and it will be used to host the a > > You probably meant ProLiant, which seems to be a brand of servers that > exists since Compaq still existed. ProLiant is the

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <718413D5BCF618498A68930091C4BE9B04EE8302@dueexs01.bertschi.domain>, Boblitz John wrote: >We are internally debating whether to install the 64bit port on our >64bit machine. > >Are there any reasons to NOT use the 64bit port? Citrix's ICAClient. Maybe Skype. Also, evidently GNU Gift (image rec

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread John W Foster
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 11:57 +0100, Boblitz John wrote: > We are internally debating whether to install the 64bit port on our > 64bit machine. > > Are there any reasons to NOT use the 64bit port? > > Cheers, > > John Boblitz I,m running a mixed stable/testing system with as many 64 bit apps

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 11:57:49 +0100, Boblitz John wrote: We are internally debating whether to install the 64bit port on our 64bit machine. Are there any reasons to NOT use the 64bit port? Sure, there still some applications that are not natively ported to 64 bits, like Skyp

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Peter Koellner
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Raffaele Morelli wrote: 2011/2/9 Boblitz John We are internally debating whether to install the 64bit port on our 64bit machine. Are there any reasons to NOT use the 64bit port? Cheers, John Boblitz ?! :-) IMHO I see no reasons at all. I am running amd64 (both on p

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 09 feb 11, 16:01:32, Boblitz John wrote: > > "- it seems amd64 uses a bit more RAM and can be slower under specific > circumstances" > > This is interesting! > Can you be more specific? Sorry, no. As I corrected myself immediately, it's only hearsay. > We are running a ProReliant serv

RE: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Boblitz John
"- it seems amd64 uses a bit more RAM and can be slower under specific circumstances" This is interesting! Can you be more specific? We are running a ProReliant server and it will be used to host the a progreSQL DB, Apache tomcat / Java / PhP services (internal only). My main "concern" provid

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 16:46:53 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mi, 09 feb 11, 14:35:18, Camaleón wrote: >> >> >> - flash had some security issues for a while, workaround was to use >> >> the >> >> 32bit version with ugly hacks >> >> Yep, but not true anymore :-) >> >> There is Flash Square pl

RE: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Boblitz John
In that case, I'll install the 32bit twice :D -Original Message- From: Thierry Chatelet [mailto:tchate...@free.fr] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:32 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System On Wednesday 09 February 2011 11:57:49 Bo

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 09 feb 11, 14:35:18, Camaleón wrote: > > >> - flash had some security issues for a while, workaround was to use the > >> 32bit version with ugly hacks > > Yep, but not true anymore :-) > > There is Flash Square plugin, pure 64-bits and without any (known) flaw. Sure, but that incident

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 16:21:49 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mi, 09 feb 11, 16:20:31, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Mi, 09 feb 11, 11:57:49, Boblitz John wrote: >> > We are internally debating whether to install the 64bit port on our >> > 64bit machine. >> > >> > Are there any reasons to NOT use

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 09 feb 11, 16:20:31, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mi, 09 feb 11, 11:57:49, Boblitz John wrote: > > We are internally debating whether to install the 64bit port on our > > 64bit machine. > > > > Are there any reasons to NOT use the 64bit port? > > Here are some things I have encountered: >

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 09 feb 11, 11:57:49, Boblitz John wrote: > We are internally debating whether to install the 64bit port on our > 64bit machine. > > Are there any reasons to NOT use the 64bit port? Here are some things I have encountered: - skype works only with some ugly hacks - flash had some securit

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 11:57:49 +0100, Boblitz John wrote: > We are internally debating whether to install the 64bit port on our > 64bit machine. > > Are there any reasons to NOT use the 64bit port? Sure, there still some applications that are not natively ported to 64 bits, like Skype (recently

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Wednesday 09 February 2011 11:57:49 Boblitz John wrote: > We are internally debating whether to install the 64bit port on our > 64bit machine. > > Are there any reasons to NOT use the 64bit port? > > Cheers, > > John Boblitz Using 32 bit port you can worn out only half of your CPU, keeping

Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System

2011-02-09 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2011/2/9 Boblitz John > We are internally debating whether to install the 64bit port on our 64bit > machine. > > Are there any reasons to NOT use the 64bit port? > > Cheers, > > John Boblitz > ?! :-) IMHO I see no reasons at all. I am running amd64 (both on production servers and desktops) bef