Re: Okular PDF viewer

2025-06-03 Thread local10
Jun 3, 2025, 08:15 by van.sny...@sbcglobal.net: > That works fine for me too. But as I wrote the problem arises when I search > for something, or click on an internal link in the document, such as a > bibliographic citation or figure number or equation number. It used to work > fine until a few

Re: Okular PDF viewer

2025-06-03 Thread Van Snyder
On Tue, 2025-06-03 at 06:06 +0200, local10 wrote: > On 3/6/25 06:15, Van Snyder wrote: > > > > I've been using okular for many years, mostly because it's part > > > of the standard Debian install. Version 22.12.3 is the one I > > > currently have. > > > > > > Lately when I do a search or click a

Re: PDF viewer for elderly

2025-06-03 Thread Chris Green
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 6/2/25 2:25 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Perhaps, for the hardcopy manual, buying a pair of reading glasses > >> might help. > > > > I think it's safe to assume that people above 50 years old know about > > reading glasses. 🙂 > > > > ROFL - Been wearing tri-focals

Re: apt: WTH is a "second pre-image resistance"?

2025-06-02 Thread Harald Dunkel
@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: apt: WTH is a "second pre-image resistance"? On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 5:05 PM Darac Marjal wrote: > > > On 02/06/2025 12:49, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > trying Trixie "apt update" shows a warning about my loc

Re: PDF viewer for elderly

2025-06-02 Thread local10
On Mon 02 Jun 2025 at 21:28:50 (+0100), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: >> Richard Owlett wrote: >> > On 6/2/25 2:03 PM, Van Snyder wrote: >> > > On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 13:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >> > >> I'm over 80. My only phone just died. >> > >> I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set

Re: Okular PDF viewer

2025-06-02 Thread local10
On 3/6/25 06:15, Van Snyder wrote: >> I've been using okular for many years, mostly because it's part of the >> standard Debian install. Version 22.12.3 is the one I currently have. >> >> Lately when I do a search or click a link to another page, it doesn't >> display the correct page. Is this a

Re: PDF viewer for elderly

2025-06-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Jun 2025 at 21:28:50 (+0100), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 6/2/25 2:03 PM, Van Snyder wrote: > > > On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 13:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >> I'm over 80. My only phone just died. > > >> I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set whic

Re: Okular PDF viewer

2025-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/25 06:15, Van Snyder wrote: I've been using okular for many years, mostly because it's part of the standard Debian install. Version 22.12.3 is the one I currently have. Lately when I do a search or click a link to another page, it doesn't display the correct page. Is this a known bug? O

Re: PDF viewer for elderly

2025-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/25 03:44, Richard Owlett wrote: If RETIREMENT isn't for learning, "What use is it?" I believe that the whole of life is an education, for people willing to learn. "The more we know, the more we know the little we know." .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800)

Re: PDF viewer for elderly

2025-06-02 Thread Van Snyder
On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 14:44 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > After my initial post, I discovered readability of the dim grey type > was > in some sense easier when blew up image further by choosing "Fit > Width" > rather than "Fit Height" in Atril. Try settings like +200% in Okular.

Re: apt: WTH is a "second pre-image resistance"?

2025-06-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 5:05 PM Darac Marjal wrote: > > > On 02/06/2025 12:49, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > trying Trixie "apt update" shows a warning about my local repo > > (managed by reprepro on Bookworm) I don't know how to handle: > > > > Warning: http://debian.example.com/debia

Re: parallel gnu and parallel from moreutils

2025-06-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 2:24 PM BST, Anssi Saari wrote: I certainly don't want both parallel and parallel.moreutils in /usr/bin. How many more files would need to be added in /usr/bin to satisfy all possible conflicts? What OP wishes for is a stable path to a moreutils binary, from one or the oth

Re: PDF viewer for elderly

2025-06-02 Thread debian-user
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 6/2/25 2:03 PM, Van Snyder wrote: > > On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 13:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> I'm over 80. My only phone just died. > >> I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set which came with minuscule > >> 5"x7" manual. > >> Fortunately an ATT site has PDFs of ma

Re: PDF viewer for elderly

2025-06-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 6/2/25 2:25 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Perhaps, for the hardcopy manual, buying a pair of reading glasses might help. I think it's safe to assume that people above 50 years old know about reading glasses. 🙂 ROFL - Been wearing tri-focals since my 30's. Also have wicked astigmatism correct

Re: PDF viewer for elderly

2025-06-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 6/2/25 2:03 PM, Van Snyder wrote: On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 13:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm over 80. My only phone just died. I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set which came with minuscule 5"x7" manual. Fortunately an ATT site has PDFs of manuals. *HOWEVER* only BOLD text is in a saturat

Re: PDF viewer for elderly

2025-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/25 03:25, Stefan Monnier wrote: Perhaps, for the hardcopy manual, buying a pair of reading glasses might help. I think it's safe to assume that people above 50 years old know about reading glasses. 🙂 Stefan Sometimes, the obvious might not occur to us. Due to a persistent

Re: PDF viewer for elderly

2025-06-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Perhaps, for the hardcopy manual, buying a pair of reading glasses > might help. I think it's safe to assume that people above 50 years old know about reading glasses. 🙂 Stefan

Re: PDF viewer for elderly

2025-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/25 02:39, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm over 80. My only phone just died. I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set which came with minuscule 5"x7" manual. Fortunately an ATT site has PDFs of manuals. *HOWEVER* only BOLD text is in a saturated image. All other text is in a marginally readable p

Re: PDF viewer for elderly

2025-06-02 Thread Van Snyder
On Mon, 2025-06-02 at 13:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm over 80. My only phone just died. > I just bought an ATT CL84207 desk set which came with minuscule 5"x7" > manual. > Fortunately an ATT site has PDFs of manuals. > > *HOWEVER* only BOLD text is in a saturated image. > All other text i

Re: apt: WTH is a "second pre-image resistance"?

2025-06-02 Thread Darac Marjal
On 02/06/2025 12:49, Harald Dunkel wrote: Hi folks, trying Trixie "apt update" shows a warning about my local repo (managed by reprepro on Bookworm) I don't know how to handle: Warning: http://debian.example.com/debian/dists/trixie-backports/InRelease: Policy will reject signature within a ye

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is notconnected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread gene heskett
On 6/2/25 11:27, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 3:34 PM BST, Titus Newswanger wrote: In that case, if original poster's mini-pc won't boot without HDMI monitor, maybe like others suggested, a dummy connector. A search on places like Amazon for "HDMI dummy plug" finds a lot of opt

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 3:34 PM BST, Titus Newswanger wrote: In that case, if original poster's mini-pc won't boot without HDMI monitor, maybe like others suggested, a dummy connector. A search on places like Amazon for "HDMI dummy plug" finds a lot of options. To be honest, I had not realized su

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Fred
On 6/2/25 06:47, Joe wrote: On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 13:57:23 +0100 "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM BST, Joe wrote: Certainly the Raspberry Pi OS (closely based on Debian, formerly called Raspbian) allows headless use. The issue (for those machines that have it) is not t

Re: aptitude configuration

2025-06-02 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 08:56:05 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 02 Jun 2025 at 10:33:57 (+0200), Frank Guthausen wrote: > > > > From some old legacy configuration [...] > > ``Aptitude::Recommends-Important'' [...] > > > > The manpage [...] claims the > > option to be `` APT::Install-Recommends''

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Titus Newswanger
On 6/2/25 09:05, Fred wrote: The original poster said he "did not see at all" and didn't want to waste the monitor power consumption. Sorry, I overlooked that. I was so thinking "headless server"... In that case, if original poster's mini-pc won't boot without HDMI monitor, maybe like other

Re: aptitude configuration

2025-06-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Jun 2025 at 10:33:57 (+0200), Frank Guthausen wrote: > I use ``aptitude'' with configuration below ``/etc/apt/''. > > From some old legacy configuration and an online manpage[1] recommended > packages are included or excluded by ``Aptitude::Recommends-Important'' > option when using ``ap

Re: aptitude configuration

2025-06-02 Thread Oliver Schode
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 10:33:57 +0200 Frank Guthausen wrote: > Hello. > > I use ``aptitude'' with configuration below ``/etc/apt/''. > > From some old legacy configuration and an online manpage[1] > recommended packages are included or excluded by > ``Aptitude::Recommends-Important'' option when us

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread jeremy ardley
On 2/6/25 21:47, Joe wrote: I mention the OS in case an alternative (there are) did demand a monitor. Both ends of HDMI certainly know whether the other end is connected, many sources will not power up unless they see a live sink, and sinks will usually not fully power the interface unless they

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Joe
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 13:57:23 +0100 "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: > On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM BST, Joe wrote: > > Certainly the Raspberry Pi OS (closely based on Debian, formerly > > called Raspbian) allows headless use. > > The issue (for those machines that have it) is not the OS: it's the

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Dan Ritter
Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > > Or unfortunately, firmware will recognize this fact automatically and > > will not allow me to load GRUB and boot The kernel:? > > It's your bios settings, not Debian issue. > > > I do not see at all so I want to use 20 Watts energy comsumption with no > > need to use

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Titus Newswanger
On 6/2/25 00:29, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate Mate? Am I correct, that is a desktop environment? I don't know anything about mate. With some d.e., If you configure networking etc in a gui while logged into a d.e. then remove monitor an

Re: apt: WTH is a "second pre-image resistance"?

2025-06-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 02, 2025 at 13:49:05 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > > trying Trixie "apt update" shows a warning about my local repo > (managed by reprepro on Bookworm) I don't know how to handle: > > Warning: http://debian.example.com/debian/dists/trixie-backports/InRelease: > Policy wil

Re: parallel gnu and parallel from moreutils

2025-06-02 Thread Anssi Saari
Federico Kircheis writes: > I could not find any information if something like the following has > already been proposed (and eventually rejected): > > moreutils should also provide /usr/bin/parallel.moreutils, even if gnu > parallel is not installed(!) > > gnu parallel should also provide /usr/b

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM BST, Joe wrote: Certainly the Raspberry Pi OS (closely based on Debian, formerly called Raspbian) allows headless use. The issue (for those machines that have it) is not the OS: it's the firmware (artist formerly known as BIOS). If that does not support headles

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
пн, 2 июн. 2025 г. в 13:35, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel : > > Dear users and developers, > I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on mini > PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected to > provided HDMI output connector. Always or after install? Default install

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread jeremy ardley
On 2/6/25 20:46, Charles Curley wrote: You will need a monitor to install, and then some way of administering the machine afterwards, typically an SSH server. Many SBC do not have a monitor tor start with. It is not a problem to have them start up with a SSH server to administer, or at worst

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 07:29:53 +0200 "Mgr. Janusz Chmiel" wrote: >     I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on > mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected > to provided HDMI output connector. You did not say which mini-PC you are considering, so on

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Titus Newswanger
I am booting various mini-pc without a display and it is working. I've had good success with Minisforum brand. The UXX branded one (cost less than $100 USD)(I can't find a model number on it) has very buggy Bios firmware. Not even an option to auto-start upon powerup, I always have to start it

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Joe
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 10:46:05 +0100 "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: > On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 6:29 AM BST, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: > > Dear users and developers, > >     I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on > > mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor > > con

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-02 Thread Chris Green
Gilles Mocellin wrote: > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: utf-8, 34 lines --] > > Le dimanche 1 juin 2025, 19:38:17 heure d’été d’Europe centrale Chris Green a > écrit : > > Gilles Mocellin wrote: > > > Le dimanche 1 juin 2025, 12:11:05 heure d’été d’Europe centrale Chris > >

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 6:29 AM BST, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: Dear users and developers,     I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected to provided HDMI output connector. It depends on the specific machin

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-01 Thread jeremy ardley
On 2/6/25 13:29, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: It is possible on Raspbery but I Am afraid, that mini PCS firmwares will not allow Me to boot The system at all. What do you think? You need to be specific what mini PC you are talking about and its processor type. Most ARM based single board co

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Up until now I have always stayed with Intel CPU and Intel Graphics > because of the solid Linux support but the alternative AMD Ryzen > processors on the T14/P14 seem attractive. Is support for these > pretty solid now? (Thay have been around for quite a while!) IME, support for AMD CPU+GPU ha

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay withIntel?

2025-06-01 Thread gene heskett
On 6/1/25 18:19, Bret Busby wrote: On 2/6/25 06:08, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2025, 4:51 PM Bret Busby > wrote:     On 2/6/25 05:35, nsrx...@bruttocarattere.org     wrote: >> Perhaps, you should have specified which

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Alain D D Williams
I respectfully suggest that we all go to bed and talk again tomorrow. Regards -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers. Registration Information: https://www.

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Bret Busby
On 2/6/25 06:08, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2025, 4:51 PM Bret Busby > wrote: On 2/6/25 05:35, nsrx...@bruttocarattere.org wrote: >> Perhaps, you should have specified which particular AMD chipsets >> f

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Bret Busby
On 2/6/25 05:50, Darac Marjal wrote: On 01/06/2025 22:11, Bret Busby wrote: On 2/6/25 04:18, Chris Green wrote: Marco Moock wrote: On 01.06.2025 12:30 Uhr Chris Green wrote: Up until now I have always stayed with Intel CPU and Intel Graphics because of the solid Linux support but the altern

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Jun 1, 2025, 4:51 PM Bret Busby wrote: > On 2/6/25 05:35, nsrx...@bruttocarattere.org wrote: > >> Perhaps, you should have specified which particular AMD chipsets > >> feature in the particular computers, for which you want to find > >> whether support is provided. > >> > >> "So once you

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Darac Marjal
On 01/06/2025 22:11, Bret Busby wrote: On 2/6/25 04:18, Chris Green wrote: Marco Moock wrote: On 01.06.2025 12:30 Uhr Chris Green wrote: Up until now I have always stayed with Intel CPU and Intel Graphics because of the solid Linux support but the alternative AMD Ryzen processors on the T14/

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Bret Busby
On 2/6/25 05:35, nsrx...@bruttocarattere.org wrote: Perhaps, you should have specified which particular AMD chipsets feature in the particular computers, for which you want to find whether support is provided. "So once you do know what the question actually is,  you'll know what the answer mea

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread nsrxnst
Perhaps, you should have specified which particular AMD chipsets feature in the particular computers, for which you want to find whether support is provided. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." this strikes me as unhelpful and condescending

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Bret Busby
On 2/6/25 04:18, Chris Green wrote: Marco Moock wrote: On 01.06.2025 12:30 Uhr Chris Green wrote: Up until now I have always stayed with Intel CPU and Intel Graphics because of the solid Linux support but the alternative AMD Ryzen processors on the T14/P14 seem attractive. Is support for the

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jun 01, 2025 at 09:18:41PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: I don't **have** any 'chips', I'm asking which have reliable support. You aren't going to have issues with any ryzens, and the support is no better or worse than current intel processors.

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le dimanche 1 juin 2025, 19:38:17 heure d’été d’Europe centrale Chris Green a écrit : > Gilles Mocellin wrote: > > Le dimanche 1 juin 2025, 12:11:05 heure d’été d’Europe centrale Chris > > Green a> > > écrit : > > > I am thinking of getting a new (well, refurbished) laptop to replace > > > my lo

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Chris Green
Marco Moock wrote: > On 01.06.2025 12:30 Uhr Chris Green wrote: > > > Up until now I have always stayed with Intel CPU and Intel Graphics > > because of the solid Linux support but the alternative AMD Ryzen > > processors on the T14/P14 seem attractive. Is support for these > > pretty solid now?

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Marco Moock
On 01.06.2025 12:30 Uhr Chris Green wrote: > Up until now I have always stayed with Intel CPU and Intel Graphics > because of the solid Linux support but the alternative AMD Ryzen > processors on the T14/P14 seem attractive. Is support for these > pretty solid now? (Thay have been around for quit

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Jun 1, 2025 at 6:20 AM Chris Green wrote: > > I am thinking of getting a new (well, refurbished) laptop to replace > my long serving Thinkpad T470. The front runners seem to be either > T14 or P14s gen2, at the moment the P14s seems a bit cheaper for > similar specs. > > Up until now I ha

Re: parallel gnu and parallel from moreutils

2025-06-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 01, 2025 at 19:43:39 +0200, Federico Kircheis wrote: > moreutils should also provide /usr/bin/parallel.moreutils, even if gnu > parallel is not installed(!) > > gnu parallel should also provide /usr/bin/parallel.gnu I agree with you. However, in order to make anything happen, you nee

Re: Unable to boot Debian live ISO on Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite AX (UEFI issues)

2025-06-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Thanh Le Tran Ngoc wrote: > I tried many tools and ways to parse Debian 12 stable into bootable device Did you put a Debian Live ISO onto a USB stick ? If not USB stick: What else stores the live ISO ? Which ISO image did you download ? (Exact URL please.) > It only see boot device if I tur

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Chris Green
Gilles Mocellin wrote: > Le dimanche 1 juin 2025, 12:11:05 heure d’été d’Europe centrale Chris Green a > écrit : > > I am thinking of getting a new (well, refurbished) laptop to replace > > my long serving Thinkpad T470. The front runners seem to be either > > T14 or P14s gen2, at the moment the

Re: Unable to boot Debian live ISO on Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite AX (UEFI issues)

2025-06-01 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 01.06.2025 20:39, Thanh Le Tran Ngoc wrote: Hi Debian team, I tried many tools and ways to parse Debian 12 stable into bootable device but motherboard cannot detect boot device. In other laptop like Dell, it can detect that boot without any issues. It only see boot device if I turn off secur

Re: Solutions to notify desktop users of new Debian releases

2025-06-01 Thread Darac Marjal
On 01/06/2025 01:06, Bret Busby wrote: On 1/6/25 03:50, John Scott wrote: Hi, [cut] I guess my question is, do I understand everything right? Does anyone have a more ready-made solution to solve this need? If not, that's not a big problem—I just want to stay close to the state-of-the-art.

Re: Is support for AMD Ryzen solid nowadays or should I stay with Intel?

2025-06-01 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le dimanche 1 juin 2025, 12:11:05 heure d’été d’Europe centrale Chris Green a écrit : > I am thinking of getting a new (well, refurbished) laptop to replace > my long serving Thinkpad T470. The front runners seem to be either > T14 or P14s gen2, at the moment the P14s seems a bit cheaper for > si

Re: Dell latitude keymap

2025-06-01 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-05-31 09:00, rob stone wrote: Hello, if you are running a Dell Latitude laptop, what values are in /etc/default/keyboard? I've tried "pc105" (default) and "latitude" and neither echo the hash symbol (Shift-3) nor the pipe character. TIA, Robert I've a recollection of selecting some

Re: Dell latitude keymap

2025-05-31 Thread David Wright
On Sat 31 May 2025 at 18:00:30 (+1000), rob stone wrote: > if you are running a Dell Latitude laptop, what values are in > /etc/default/keyboard? I had a British Latitude D430, and I had: XKBMODEL="latitude" XKBLAYOUT="gb" XKBVARIANT="" XKBOPTIONS="compose:caps,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"

Re: exim configuration.

2025-05-31 Thread David Wright
On Sat 17 May 2025 at 15:11:14 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > /etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf has > [smtp] > client = yes > accept = localhost:106 > connect = mail.easthope.ca:465 > > Then > swaks -s localhost -p 106 -f pe...@easthope.ca -t pe...@easthope.ca > sends a test message. > > Whereas ex

Re: Solutions to notify desktop users of new Debian releases

2025-05-31 Thread Bret Busby
On 1/6/25 03:50, John Scott wrote: Hi, I'm looking to help a couple people I know personally get up and running with Debian very soon, and I hope to help many more. Speaking from experience, my primary concern is that Debian on the desktop does not notify users at all when a new release is ma

Re: Solutions to notify desktop users of new Debian releases

2025-05-31 Thread Dan Ritter
John Scott wrote: > I'm looking to help a couple people I know personally get up and running with > Debian very soon, and I hope to help many more. Speaking from experience, my > primary concern is that Debian on the desktop does not notify users at all > when a new release is made or when the

Re: Dell latitude keymap

2025-05-31 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On Sat, 2025-05-31 at 14:06 +, xuser wrote: > Are you sure the keyboard works, properly ex. (no dead keys)? > I have a Dell Latitude E6500 and all of the keys on the keyboard work > fine. Nice call. We're always asking if external parts like cables work, but onboard keyboard functionality doe

Re: Dell latitude keymap

2025-05-31 Thread Hans
Am Samstag, 31. Mai 2025, 13:18:52 CEST schrieb Richard Owlett: Hi Richard, where do you want to type it? In X? Then with which windowmanager? Or in the native console (F1 - F5)? Please note, that X, as well as each window manager and console itself is using theire own configuration, but maybe

Re: Dell latitude keymap

2025-05-31 Thread xuser
Are you sure the keyboard works, properly ex. (no dead keys)? I have a Dell Latitude E6500 and all of the keys on the keyboard work fine. On Sat, 31 May 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: Date: Sat, 31 May 2025 06:18:52 -0500 From: Richard Owlett To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Dell

Re: Dell latitude keymap

2025-05-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 5/31/25 3:00 AM, rob stone wrote: Hello, if you are running a Dell Latitude laptop, I have a Dell Latitude E6410 what values are in /etc/default/keyboard? I see: > # KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION FILE > > # Consult the keyboard(5) manual page. > > XKBMOD

Re: Dell latitude keymap

2025-05-31 Thread Hans
Am Samstag, 31. Mai 2025, 10:00:30 CEST schrieb rob stone: > Hello, > > if you are running a Dell Latitude laptop, what values are in > /etc/default/keyboard? > > I've tried "pc105" (default) and "latitude" and neither echo the hash > symbol (Shift-3) nor the pipe character. > > TIA, > > Robert

Re: netsurf segfault

2025-05-31 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Consider reporting this as a bug against the netsurf package. -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: amd rx550

2025-05-30 Thread David Christensen
On 5/30/25 10:20, Russell L. Harris wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 02:18:06AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: Perhaps you could take Debian Live media to Blair and test before purchase? Regrettably, no.  Blair is in Kentucky; I am in Texas. Okay. Reading ahead, Debian should work fine on a

Re: amd rx550

2025-05-30 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 02:18:06AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: On 5/29/25 11:13, Russell L. Harris wrote: Should I purchase a used computer with AMD RX550 video? The only reliable method I have found for determining if a specific version of a specific FOSS OS works on a specific computer

Re: Compile VLC from source enabling with live555 RTSP streaming support

2025-05-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Jaikumar Sharma wrote: > Hi folks, > > Our product is using VLC with RTSP support with live555 > (http://www.live555.com/) - which was disabled in Debian because of licensing > changes by live555. > > I want compile VLC with live555 RTSP streaming support, most of the tutorials > or hints I f

Re: retry at email Security problem with deian12.10.0

2025-05-30 Thread Richard Owlett
On 5/30/25 6:26 AM, Donald MacKinnon wrote: mail.txt Dear Debian, I am having difficulty in attempting to access your facilities. [SNIP] In *NONE* of your posts to debian-user do you state the _address_ you are attempting to contact.

Re: retry at email Security problem with deian12.10.0

2025-05-30 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 30.05.2025 16:26, Donald MacKinnon wrote: Dear Debian,  I am having difficulty in attempting to access your facilities. From Debian's response it would   appear a security issue. This is partially confirmed by "Open Printing's" response of "Not   Allowed" by a request for the software requi

Re: Why is my VM image so large?!

2025-05-30 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu May 29, 2025 at 3:20 PM BST, Celejar wrote: I think I've successfully enabled TRIM/DISCARD in both the guest OS as well as the host libvirt configuration, and as I mentioned, I think I did claw back some space by doing so, but not nearly enough. Is 80G too big? If not, stop the VM, qemu-

Re: amd rx550

2025-05-30 Thread David Christensen
On 5/29/25 11:13, Russell L. Harris wrote: Should I purchase a used computer with AMD RX550 video? On 5/29/25 14:17, Russell L. Harris wrote: Thanks, Dan & Andrew. I don't play games; I use the computer for composition using emacs and latex. Blair has a close-out sale on W10 machines, and

Re: Package on hold (comments)

2025-05-29 Thread Felix Miata
Stefan Monnier composed on 2025-05-29 16:56 (UTC-0400): >>> echo "PKGNAME hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections >> is that the same as apt-mark hold PKGNAME > Reminds me that I wish we could add a comment describing why it's on > hold (or alternatively, provide a config file where we can write which

Re: amd rx550

2025-05-29 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 02:57:32PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Russell L. Harris wrote: Should I purchase a used computer with AMD RX550 video? I have a Debian desktop with one; it drives 2 4K monitors just fine. I don't play games; that may factor into your decision. Thanks, Dan & Andrew. I

Re: amd rx550

2025-05-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 06:13:25PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > Should I purchase a used computer with AMD RX550 video? I can't suggest what you should or shouldn't do but the GPU will probably be supported reasonably in Debian. With every good wish, as ever, Andrew Cater (amaca...@debian.o

Re: amd rx550

2025-05-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Russell L. Harris wrote: > Should I purchase a used computer with AMD RX550 video? I have a Debian desktop with one; it drives 2 4K monitors just fine. I don't play games; that may factor into your decision. -dsr-

Re: Disable upgrades on grub

2025-05-29 Thread xuser
Thanks On Thu, 29 May 2025, Felix Miata wrote: Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 14:41:08 -0400 From: Felix Miata To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Disable upgrades on grub Resent-Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 18:41:29 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Greg Wooledge composed on

Re: Disable upgrades on grub

2025-05-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 18:38:31 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Thu, 29 May 2025, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 17:54:00 +, xuser wrote: > >> How to configure apt to not install upgrades for grub? > > > > echo "PKGNAME hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections > > > >

Re: Disable upgrades on grub

2025-05-29 Thread Felix Miata
Greg Wooledge composed on 2025-05-29 14:27 (UTC-0400): > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 17:54:00 +, xuser wrote: >> How to configure apt to not install upgrades for grub? > echo "PKGNAME hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections > Do that for each package you want to put on hold. I did not know that. I

Re: Disable upgrades on grub

2025-05-29 Thread fxkl47BF
On Thu, 29 May 2025, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 17:54:00 +, xuser wrote: >> How to configure apt to not install upgrades for grub? > > echo "PKGNAME hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections > > Do that for each package you want to put on hold. > is that the same as apt-mark hold

Re: Disable upgrades on grub

2025-05-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 17:54:00 +, xuser wrote: > How to configure apt to not install upgrades for grub? echo "PKGNAME hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections Do that for each package you want to put on hold.

Re: How to combine package grub-efi-amd64 with grub-efi-ia32 and grub-pc ?

2025-05-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > Would it be ok to install "grub-pc-bin" and "grub-efi-ia32-bin" ? Steve McIntyre wrote: > Yes. That's exactly the design of the packaging here: the -bin > packages contain the binary grub code that you're looking for, and > grub-pc and grub-efi-$arch do the configuration to use o

Re: Re: Why is my VM image so large?!

2025-05-29 Thread Celejar
[Michael Paoli wrote: [Message parts rearranged to correct top-posting] > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 5:21 AM Celejar wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have a QEMU / KVM VM running Windows that has been running as a guest > > on various Debian hosts for about a decade. The Windows OS has > > undergone v

Re: nmcli connection edit introduces duplicate connection

2025-05-29 Thread gene heskett
On 5/28/25 17:06, accipiter wrote: On 5/27/25 7:40 PM, Titus Newswanger wrote: On 5/26/25 14:20, accipiter wrote: Attempting to delete/remove the connection entry with the wrong data simply caused the defective connection entry to be replicated, only now with yet another UUID.  It is this err

Re: How to combine package grub-efi-amd64 with grub-efi-ia32 and grub-pc ?

2025-05-29 Thread Steve McIntyre
Thomas wrote: > >i am trying to reproduce a problem of grub-mkrescue. For that i need >the directories > /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc > /usr/lib/grub/i386-efi >alongside the already installed > /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi >in order to get an ISO for legacy BIOS and EFI together. >Gentoo and Arch obviously

Re: nmcli connection edit introduces duplicate connection

2025-05-28 Thread fxkl47BF
On Wed, 28 May 2025, accipiter wrote: > On 5/27/25 7:40 PM, Titus Newswanger wrote: >> >> On 5/26/25 14:20, accipiter wrote: >>> Attempting to delete/remove the connection entry with the wrong data >>> simply caused the defective connection entry to be replicated, only >>> now with yet another UUI

Re: nmcli connection edit introduces duplicate connection

2025-05-28 Thread accipiter
On 5/27/25 7:40 PM, Titus Newswanger wrote: On 5/26/25 14:20, accipiter wrote: Attempting to delete/remove the connection entry with the wrong data simply caused the defective connection entry to be replicated, only now with yet another UUID.  It is this erroneous connection entry that appear

Re: How to combine package grub-efi-amd64 with grub-efi-ia32 and grub-pc ?

2025-05-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Dan Ritter wrote: > Would downloading the deb packages, then un-ar'ing them in a tmp dir > get you most of what you want? Maybe. But i was looking for a way to create BIOS+EFI grub-mkrescue ISOs by regular Debian means. To answer my own question: https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/

Re: How to combine package grub-efi-amd64 with grub-efi-ia32 and grub-pc ?

2025-05-28 Thread Dan Ritter
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i am trying to reproduce a problem of grub-mkrescue. For that i need > the directories > /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc > /usr/lib/grub/i386-efi > alongside the already installed > /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi > in order to get an ISO for legacy BIOS and EFI together. > G

Re: How to set umask for apache2

2025-05-28 Thread Chris Green
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 15:34:39 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > ... and I have set UMask in the systemd apache2.service:- > > > > chris$ more /etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/override.conf > > [service] > > UMask=0002 > > Shouldn't that square-bracket heade

Re: Alpha testing Debian Trixie

2025-05-28 Thread Xiyue Deng
Timothy M Butterworth writes: > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:16 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > >> Timothy M Butterworth wrote: >> > Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie. I >> > did a upgrade from Debian 12 to 13 using apt-get dist-upgrade. The >> upgrade >> > went through

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