Re: Territorial Legal Issues and FTP Archives (was Re: Quake is GPL)

1999-12-31 Thread Fish Smith
>> The idea with non-US is mainly to offer encryption software. (illegal in >> US) >Encryption software is not illegal in the US. It is >illegal to export >it >from the US and therefor illegal to put it up on a >public site >accessible >from outside the US, but it is perfectly legal to >import it

Re: Territorial Legal Issues and FTP Archives (was Re: Quake is GPL)

1999-12-31 Thread John Hasler
Fish Smith writes: > The idea with non-US is mainly to offer encryption software. (illegal in > US) Encryption software is not illegal in the US. It is illegal to export it from the US and therefor illegal to put it up on a public site accessible from outside the US, but it is perfectly legal to

Re: Territorial Legal Issues and FTP Archives (was Re: Quake is GPL)

1999-12-30 Thread Fish Smith
> >But they have to be legal on the non-US mirrors as > >well as the main non-US FTP site. Isn't that why > >quake isn't included, because Germany and Argentina > >have it illegal? So if several countries with > Debian > >mirrors have laws against mp3 encoders it wouldn't > be > >in non-US, even

Re: Territorial Legal Issues and FTP Archives (was Re: Quake is GPL)

1999-12-30 Thread Onno
[snip] >>Why not? Here in the Netherlands mp3's and mp3 >>encoders are not >>illigal. > >>BTW I can't think of any software that would be >>illigal here. > >But they have to be legal on the non-US mirrors as >well as the main non-US FTP site. Isn't that why >quake isn't included, because Germany a

Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-29 Thread Aigars Mahinovs
How about creating a 'pre compiled' :) defense strategy like: -- proving the Internet is NOT under laws of ANY country and therefore distribution trough Internet regales of geographical location of host and recipient is outside competency of ANY country. (Sorry for my bad english) Note:

Re: Territorial Legal Issues and FTP Archives (was Re: Quake is GPL)

1999-12-28 Thread Fish Smith
>>> > I think the right solution is selecting a country with good connectivity >>> > and less stupid laws. What about canada? >>> >>> pandora is already in a perfect location... >> >>Thought we can't upload mp3 encoders to pandora? Or is that just because >>some mirrors couldn't handle it? >Why

Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
At 01:13 PM 12/26/99 +0100, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote: >We should not, under any circumstances, mess our distro, only because >some group of morons claiming to be `government' ban such package here or >elsewhere. If there are such laws somewhere citizen of such country have only >these posibilities

Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
At 12:49 AM 12/27/99 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: >On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 01:13:42PM +0100, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote: >> We should not, under any circumstances, mess our distro, only because >> some group of morons claiming to be `government' ban such package here or > >Try to be practical. The U

Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
At 03:06 PM 12/25/99 +0100, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote: >... as the primary non-US site is in Germany (IIRC). Nope, non-US (pandora) is in the Netherlands... Regards, Onno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-28 Thread Laurent PICOULEAU
On Tue, 28 Dec, 1999 à 03:23:25AM +0800, Mike Markley wrote: > On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 01:56:00PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > > I've tried to be nice in this discussion. I'm no longer trying. > > > > > I WILL NOT CRIPPLE MY QUAKE PACKAGES TO SATISFY THE STUPIDITY INHERENT IN > > > THE LAWS O

Re: This can lead to a better solution at all (was: Re: Quake is GPL)

1999-12-27 Thread Nick Moffitt
Quoting Eduardo Marcel Macan: > We need to stop staring at our own bellybuttons (this is a local > expression translated) The American/English version is "contemplating our navel" (navel being another term for bellybutton). -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-homin

Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-27 Thread Mike Markley
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 01:56:00PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > I've tried to be nice in this discussion. I'm no longer trying. > > > I WILL NOT CRIPPLE MY QUAKE PACKAGES TO SATISFY THE STUPIDITY INHERENT IN > > THE LAWS OF EXACTLY TWO COUNTRIES IN THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT I KNOW OF. I > > CONS

This can lead to a better solution at all (was: Re: Quake is GPL)

1999-12-27 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 02:16:47PM +0100, Bart Schuller wrote: > I would *not* ask others in different countries to do my work for me. It > would offer no protection whatsoever. Look, I know this message was not targeted at me, but I felt hit because I started this thread. The pur

Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-26 Thread Christian Kurz
--T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 99-12-26 Joseph Carter wrote: > On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 02:37:04PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > > I would *personally* make sure that I was in compliance with the > > > relevant laws. If I felt that that would take too much of my

Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-26 Thread Joseph Carter
--UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 02:37:04PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > I would *personally* make sure that I was in compliance with the > > relevant laws. If I felt that that would take too much

Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-26 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 02:22:55PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > On 99-12-26 Raul Miller wrote: > > So how about volunteering to contact those ftp maintainers and let > > them know about their governments' laws? > > And how has enough knowledge to do this? For example here in Germany you > need t

Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-26 Thread Joseph Carter
--envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 09:45:52AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > I'm confused; are you saying that quake source is legal in Germany, but > > binaries aren't!? If that's not what you mean, w