Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-05 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025, Nicolas George wrote: to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): Very often, getting the newer Debian source package (just apt-get source) and building it (dpkg-buildpackage) after having installed the build dependencies (apt-get build-depends) is all you need to have a self built ba

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-05 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 02:48:01PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I am writing to propose the creation of a new Debian branch that > > offers a stable release every year, as opposed to the current 5-year > > cycle. This would be particularly beneficial for educational > > institutions, where a b

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Xiyue Deng
Sarbjit Singh Sandhu writes: > [...] > > A yearly stable release would allow schools to benefit from the latest > software and security updates without the long wait between releases. This > would also make it easier for schools to plan their IT infrastructure and > ensure that students have acce

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I am writing to propose the creation of a new Debian branch that > offers a stable release every year, as opposed to the current 5-year > cycle. This would be particularly beneficial for educational > institutions, where a balance between stability and up-to-date > software is crucial. As menti

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 12:05:29PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > > > That is a terrible idea. > > Not if done right. > > “Not if done right” has been said of all terrible ideas in the history > of terrible ideas. Well, yes. I tried to sketch what I mean by "do

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > > That is a terrible idea. > Not if done right. “Not if done right” has been said of all terrible ideas in the history of terrible ideas. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 11:48:18AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Choose your version string wisely. This is very important. To reiterate: change the version string if you change things. Not doing so is indeed a terrible idea :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 11:43:49AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > > Very often, getting the newer Debian source package (just apt-get source) > > and building it (dpkg-buildpackage) after having installed the build > > dependencies (apt-get build-depends) is all

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > Very often, getting the newer Debian source package (just apt-get source) > and building it (dpkg-buildpackage) after having installed the build > dependencies (apt-get build-depends) is all you need to have a self > built backport. You get a Debian package, so t

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 11:33:44AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > > To add to all those very good points: if you need newer software (besides > > the security updates, which Debian is extremely good at providin in a > > timely fashion, BTW), there are the backpor

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 10:03:32 + Andy Smith wrote: Hello Andy, >You have addressed your email to debian-user. Here we are all just >users of Debian like you. We cannot make changes to the policies of the >Debian project directly. OP also sent the same request to Debian Developers. Whilst ther

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > To add to all those very good points: if you need newer software (besides > the security updates, which Debian is extremely good at providin in a > timely fashion, BTW), there are the backports. And it's not that difficult > to contribute to that. If one needs s

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Nicolas George
Sarbjit Singh Sandhu (HE12025-03-04): > I am a 10th class student from India and want a feature request for the > purpose of changing my school computers from windows to linux. Hi. The obstacles to schools using Linux instead of Windows are not about Linux's features. The obstacles are school pro

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 09:57:10AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 02:16:23PM +0530, Sarbjit Singh Sandhu wrote: > > Dear Debian Developers, > > > > Hi, [...] > As it is, the creation of a major stable release takes a long time. > Once released, there's a two year cycl

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 02:16:23PM +0530, Sarbjit Singh Sandhu wrote: > Dear Debian Developers, You have addressed your email to debian-user. Here we are all just users of Debian like you. We cannot make changes to the policies of the Debian project directly. If you wanted to discuss your id

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 02:16:23PM +0530, Sarbjit Singh Sandhu wrote: > Dear Debian Developers, > Hi, There are developers here but this is mostly a list for Debian users. > I am a 10th class student from India and want a feature request for the > purpose of changing my school computers from wi

Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Sarbjit Singh Sandhu
Dear Debian Developers, I am a 10th class student from India and want a feature request for the purpose of changing my school computers from windows to linux. I am writing to propose the creation of a new Debian branch that offers a stable release every year, as opposed to the current 5-year cycl