Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-28 Thread David Van Mosselbeen
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:00:03 +0200, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:35:44 +0300 Andrei Popescu wrote: >> AFAICT there is currently no way to tell update-grub that some (or even >> all) of the partitions found by os-prober are not needed in the menu. > > Well, at least you could ed

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-28 Thread David Van Mosselbeen
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:00:03 +0200, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:35:44 +0300 Andrei Popescu wrote: >> AFAICT there is currently no way to tell update-grub that some (or even >> all) of the partitions found by os-prober are not needed in the menu. > > Well, at least you could ed

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-26 Thread Sjoerd Hiemstra
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:35:44 +0300 Andrei Popescu wrote: > AFAICT there is currently no way to tell update-grub that some (or > even all) of the partitions found by os-prober are not needed in the > menu. Well, at least you could edit /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober. Line 35 reads: OSPROBED="`os-pr

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 26 oct 10, 00:57:45, Charles Kroeger wrote: > On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 15:20:01 +0200 > David Van Mosselbeen wrote: > > > 3 Windows operating systems > > (1 win7 and 2 of Vista which i don't have). Had need to run > > update-grub to get this issue fixed. Well, i still have an issue with > > sho

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-25 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Charles Kroeger wrote: > On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 15:20:01 +0200 > David Van Mosselbeen wrote: > >> 3 Windows operating systems >> (1 win7 and 2 of Vista which i don't have). Had need to run >> update-grub to get this issue fixed. Well, i still have an issue with >> s

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-25 Thread Doug
On 10/26/2010 12:57 AM, Charles Kroeger wrote: On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 15:20:01 +0200 David Van Mosselbeen wrote: 3 Windows operating systems (1 win7 and 2 of Vista which i don't have). Had need to run update-grub to get this issue fixed. Well, i still have an issue with showing 3 windows operatin

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-25 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 15:20:01 +0200 David Van Mosselbeen wrote: > 3 Windows operating systems > (1 win7 and 2 of Vista which i don't have). Had need to run > update-grub to get this issue fixed. Well, i still have an issue with > showing 3 windows operating systems in the bootloader, but that's >

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-24 Thread David Van Mosselbeen
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 02:43:06 -0700, consul tores wrote: > 2010/10/23 consul tores : >> 2010/10/23 David Van Mosselbeen : >> >>> Hi, >>> Kinda late to reply on this, but yah... >>> >>> My wife own a Compaq laptop with Windows 7 preinstalled. A few days ago >>> i >>> have installed Debian testing (

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-24 Thread consul tores
2010/10/23 consul tores : > 2010/10/23 David Van Mosselbeen : > >> Hi, >> Kinda late to reply on this, but yah... >> >> My wife own a Compaq laptop with Windows 7 preinstalled. A few days ago i >> have installed Debian testing (the daily netinst cd) on it. I have resized >> the windows NTFS partiti

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-23 Thread David Van Mosselbeen
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:54:57 +0200, Ogya Chief wrote: > Hi All, > > > > I have just bought a pc with Windows 7 pre-installed and I want to > partition and install debian on the drive. If I use the debian installer's > partitioner, what precautions do I have to take in order not to damage the

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-14 Thread Mark
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: > A very good point. I was going to mention that the restore discs provided > by some vendors (via this method of creating them using a utility provided > by the vendor) will let you perform a clean OS installation which omits some > or all

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-14 Thread Gilbert Sullivan
On 10/14/2010 09:35 AM, Preston Boyington wrote: Mark wrote: None of this matters if you use Clonezilla. So why even fiddle with it when there's a great alternative? I use Clonezilla a great deal, but most people don't think to make an image of the machine before they start Windows for the f

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-14 Thread Preston Boyington
Mark wrote: None of this matters if you use Clonezilla. So why even fiddle with it when there's a great alternative? I use Clonezilla a great deal, but most people don't think to make an image of the machine before they start Windows for the first time. What I'm talking about is having t

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
On 14/10/2010 08:54 πμ, Tom H wrote: > 2010/10/14 Γιώργος Πάλλας : > >> On 14/10/2010 04:43 πμ, Tom H wrote: >> >>> >>> You can mess with the registry to make another set of recovery disks >>> if the first set is damaged or unduplicated >>> >> This is really unneeded. What I do on fr

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Tom H
2010/10/14 Γιώργος Πάλλας : > On 14/10/2010 04:43 πμ, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Mark Allums wrote: >>> On 10/13/2010 6:43 PM, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Preston Boyington  wrote: > Ogya Chief wrote: > >> At this stage there is no dat

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
On 14/10/2010 04:43 πμ, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Mark Allums wrote: > >> On 10/13/2010 6:43 PM, Tom H wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Preston Boyington >>> wrote: >>> Ogya Chief wrote: > At this stage there is no data to

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Mark Allums wrote: > On 10/13/2010 8:45 PM, consul tores wrote: > >> And, yes, it is possible to create windows 7 recovery DVDs, many times >> as you wanted. > > This isn't universally true. Maybe some manufacturers enforce it and some > don't. HP does, or has, re

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/13/2010 8:45 PM, consul tores wrote: And, yes, it is possible to create windows 7 recovery DVDs, many times as you wanted. This isn't universally true. Maybe some manufacturers enforce it and some don't. HP does, or has, restricted it to one copy. I never understood why making multi

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/13/2010 8:31 PM, Mark wrote: On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Mark Allums Don't all boxes ship with a utility to create restore DVDs from the restore partition?! Often, they do, yes. Typically, it allows exactly one copy to be created, so, ensure that good media

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread consul tores
2010/10/12 Ogya Chief : > Hi All, > > I have just bought a pc with Windows 7 pre-installed and I want to partition > and install debian on the drive. If I use the debian installer's > partitioner, what precautions do I have to take in order not to damage the > Windows partition? > > Kind regards, >

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Mark Allums wrote: > On 10/13/2010 6:43 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Preston Boyington >>  wrote: >>> Ogya Chief wrote: At this stage there is no data to backup. If there is any other thing I can backup, please let me know. >

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Mark
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Mark Allums wrote: > On 10/13/2010 6:43 PM, Tom H wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Preston Boyington >> wrote: >> >>> Ogya Chief wrote: >>> At this stage there is no data to backup. If there is any other thing I can backup, please let

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/13/2010 6:43 PM, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Preston Boyington wrote: Ogya Chief wrote: At this stage there is no data to backup. If there is any other thing I can backup, please let me know. Since most newer computers don't come with a Restore disc, I would suggest

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/13/2010 9:25 AM, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 00:24 +0200, Ogya Chief wrote: I have Win 7 home premium. I will find out what tools for partitioning/backup came with it and decide on my next course of action. Windows comes with a resizer: right click on "my computer">

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Preston Boyington wrote: > Ogya Chief wrote: >> >> At this stage there is no data to backup. If there is any other thing I >> can backup, please let me know. > > Since most newer computers don't come with a Restore disc, I would suggest > burning the Restore partit

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Mark
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Joe wrote: > On 13/10/10 16:52, Mark wrote: > >> >> As a side note, if it came with a big hard drive, from my experience I >> suggest a 30-40 GB Windows 7 partition (yes it needs that much these >> days), >> > > That might be conservative. My Win7 is seven months

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Joe
On 13/10/10 16:52, Mark wrote: As a side note, if it came with a big hard drive, from my experience I suggest a 30-40 GB Windows 7 partition (yes it needs that much these days), That might be conservative. My Win7 is seven months old, and occupies 24GB (no data in that). I didn't make a note

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Mark
2010/10/12 Γιώργος Πάλλας > > For backing up the whole disk before starting with dangerous operations I > suggest Clonezilla (the open-source equivalent of Ghost). It use it > regularly and hasn't betrayed me. > As for the rest procedures, I also suggest you resize the windows partition > with g

RE: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 00:24 +0200, Ogya Chief wrote: > SNIP > > > > > > I have Win 7 home premium. I will find out what tools for > partitioning/backup came with it and decide on my next course of > action. Windows comes with a resizer: right click on "my computer" > manage >diskmanager. The

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Preston Boyington
Ogya Chief wrote: At this stage there is no data to backup. If there is any other thing I can backup, please let me know. Since most newer computers don't come with a Restore disc, I would suggest burning the Restore partition and any associated "utility" partition to a DVD. Usually it fi

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
On 13/10/2010 02:07 μμ, steef wrote: > Γιώργος Πάλλας schreef: >> On 13/10/2010 01:24 πμ, Ogya Chief wrote: >>> >>> >>> > If you care about Windows 7 at all (e.g., for playing games) you >>> should >>> > back up the Win 7 installation completely before starting. How you go >>> > about it depends on

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-13 Thread steef
Γιώργος Πάλλας schreef: On 13/10/2010 01:24 πμ, Ogya Chief wrote: > If you care about Windows 7 at all (e.g., for playing games) you should > back up the Win 7 installation completely before starting. How you go > about it depends on your new machine. If it came with recovery options, > yo

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-12 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
On 13/10/2010 01:24 πμ, Ogya Chief wrote: > > > > If you care about Windows 7 at all (e.g., for playing games) you should > > back up the Win 7 installation completely before starting. How you go > > about it depends on your new machine. If it came with recovery options, > > you should investigat

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/12/2010 5:24 PM, Ogya Chief wrote: I have Win 7 home premium. I will find out what tools for partitioning/backup came with it and decide on my next course of action. The reason to make a complete system snapshot first (and not just your data) is because Microsoft is greedy and has no se

RE: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-12 Thread Ogya Chief
> If you care about Windows 7 at all (e.g., for playing games) you should > back up the Win 7 installation completely before starting. How you go > about it depends on your new machine. If it came with recovery options, > you should investigate them. With the Ultimate edition, Win 7 comes

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/12/2010 2:54 PM, Ogya Chief wrote: Hi All, I have just bought a pc with Windows 7 pre-installed and I want to partition and install debian on the drive. If I use the debian installer's partitioner, what precautions do I have to take in order not to damage the Windows partition? Kind regar

RE: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-12 Thread Ogya Chief
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > From: noela...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:02:28 + > > On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:54:57 +0200, Ogya Chief wrote: > > > I have just bought a pc with

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-12 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:54:57 +0200, Ogya Chief wrote: > I have just bought a pc with Windows 7 pre-installed and I want to > partition and install debian on the drive. If I use the debian > installer's partitioner, what precautions do I have to take in order not > to damage the Windows partition?

RE: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-12 Thread Ogya Chief
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:28:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed From: mamar...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Ogya Chief wrote: Hi All, I have just bought a pc with Windows 7 pre-installed and I

Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-12 Thread Mark
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Ogya Chief wrote: > Hi All, > > I have just bought a pc with Windows 7 pre-installed and I want to > partition and install debian on the drive. If I use the debian installer's > partitioner, what precautions do I have to take in order not to damage the > Windows

Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-12 Thread Ogya Chief
Hi All, I have just bought a pc with Windows 7 pre-installed and I want to partition and install debian on the drive. If I use the debian installer's partitioner, what precautions do I have to take in order not to damage the Windows partition? Kind regards, Ogya