Re: Hi, I'm using Neptune os. I'm new to Debian. I got it it successfully installsd, how do I setup network?

2023-11-24 Thread David Wright
On Fri 24 Nov 2023 at 23:52:29 (+), Chris Goody wrote: > Neptune is based on Debian, I cant also activate my wired connection via USB > tethering. It says actives. But not fully on. My notes say the following: Connect phone with USB cable. Pull down notifications: Tap USB, Tap again for othe

Hi, I'm using Neptune os. I'm new to Debian. I got it it successfully installsd, how do I setup network?

2023-11-24 Thread Chris Goody
Neptune is based on Debian, I cant also activate my wired connection via USB tethering. It says actives. But not fully on. I use Realtek drivers and rtw89. Sent from Mail for Windows

Re: new to debian

2021-09-05 Thread 황병희
> See here for detailed explanation: > > https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList I added five lines, thanks Karthik! Sincerely, Byung-Hee

Re: new to debian

2021-09-05 Thread Karthik
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021, 4:15 PM 황병희 wrote: > Hellow~ > > Actually i am new to Debian. Especially i did install Debian 11 Bullseye > udner Chrome OS (ARM64 MT8173 Chromebook). > > Before i used Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. > > My question is: > Is this canonical way? > > #+BEGI

new to debian

2021-09-05 Thread 황병희
Hellow~ Actually i am new to Debian. Especially i did install Debian 11 Bullseye udner Chrome OS (ARM64 MT8173 Chromebook). Before i used Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. My question is: Is this canonical way? #+BEGIN_SRC: sh soyeomul@penguin:/etc/apt$ cat sources.list deb https://deb.debian.org/debian

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-14 Thread Sven Hartge
Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2014-01-03 9:18 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: >>> emerge --pretend -vuDN world >>> results in a list of all available updates, as well as any dependencies >>> that would be installed, which I can then pick and choose from. I >>> usually wait until newly available updates have been

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-14 Thread Pol Hallen
#!/bin/sh # At least once a day update the index package lists and download # pending upgrades. { apt-get -q update && apt-get -q autoclean && apt-get -q upgrade -d -y && apt-get -q dist-upgrade -d -y } 2>&1 | mailx -s "apt download output" root exit 0 cool! thanks Pol

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-14 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 01/14/2014 12:05 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-01-03 9:18 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: emerge --pretend -vuDN world results in a list of all available updates, as well as any dependencies that would be installed, which I can then pick and choose from. I usually wait until newly available updates ha

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-03 9:18 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: emerge --pretend -vuDN world results in a list of all available updates, as well as any dependencies that would be installed, which I can then pick and choose from. I usually wait until newly available updates have been available for at least a few days

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-07 Thread Felix C. Stegerman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2014-01-05 01:43, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 10:31:35PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Friday 03 January 2014 14:16:34 Brian wrote: >>> The '-s' can be omitted if more than one package is to >>> installed. >> >> i.e., if you

Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/6/14, Bob Proulx wrote: > Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> > Tanstaafl wrote: >> >> # The primary network interface ... >> >> network ###.###.###.### >> >> broadcast ###.###.###.### >> > >> > Since you already fixed your issue I'll just comment on your interfaces >> > file.

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-05 Thread Stephen Allen
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 04:29:59PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > apt-get -q update && apt-get -q autoclean && apt-get -q upgrade -d -y && > apt-get -q dist-upgrade -d -y > > > > Some fun details that may spark some ideas... Wow!

Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Tanstaafl wrote: > >> # The primary network interface > >> #allow-hotplug eth0 > >> auto eth0 > >> iface eth0 inet static > >> address ###.###.###.### > >> gateway ###.###.###.### > >> netmask 255.255.255.0 > >> network ###.###.###.### > >> broadca

Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 05 ian 14, 23:47:32, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > 3. it's safe to get rid of 'network' and 'broadcast', they are > > calculated from address and netmask ;) > > Actually not. Some home adsl modems and routers these days default to > 172.XX.. and 10. subnets, and Debian (Linux kernel?) choos

Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/5/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 03 ian 14, 07:29:52, Tanstaafl wrote: >> # The primary network interface >> #allow-hotplug eth0 >> auto eth0 >> iface eth0 inet static >> address ###.###.###.### >> gateway ###.###.###.### >> netmask 255.255.255.0 >> network ###.###.###.### >> broadcast ##

Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 03 ian 14, 07:29:52, Tanstaafl wrote: > > # The primary network interface > #allow-hotplug eth0 > auto eth0 > iface eth0 inet static > address ###.###.###.### > gateway ###.###.###.### > netmask 255.255.255.0 > network ###.###.###.### > broadcast ###.###.###.### Since you already fixed you

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 10:31:35PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 03 January 2014 14:16:34 Brian wrote: > > The '-s' can be omitted if more than one package is to installed. > > i.e., if you are requesting more than one package, it will tell you > what it is going to install before doing it

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-04 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Jan 04, 2014 at 09:50:59AM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 17:21:40 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: > > > > > > You might want to look into the debian-reference package. It is also > > > available on the web at

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-04 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 17:21:40 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: > > > > You might want to look into the debian-reference package. It is also > > available on the web at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/. > > It looks

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-04 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2014-01-03 14:44 keltezéssel, Tanstaafl írta: > In gentoo, I routinely perform pretend updates to see what updates are > available, so a process like: > > eix-sync > to synchronizes the local repo with the online one > > eix packagename > shows all available versions of that package, and what rep

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Sven Hartge
John Hasler wrote: > Sven Hartge writes: >> Depending on which version of Debian you installed, you will rarely >> get any updates at all. Wheezy (7.x) is stable and only get security >> updates and major bug fixes via point releases about every two >> months: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleas

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: > Tanstaafl writes: > > > Hello all, > > > > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in > > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. > ... > > Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance tasks like this?

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: > > eix packagename > > shows all available versions of that package, and what repo they > > reside in (stable, testing, etc) > >apt-cache Typo: apt-cache show > and >apt-cache policy > > > emerge --pretend -vuDN world > > results in a list of all avai

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 January 2014 14:16:34 Brian wrote: > The '-s' can be omitted if more than one package is to installed. i.e., if you are requesting more than one package, it will tell you what it is going to install before doing it anyway. You need the -s for one package, because if you have only a

Re: Half-OT: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/3/14, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 07:29 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: >> (Debian and FreeBSD being the top contenders) > > There's a Debian BSD port too: > https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD > For servers likely Debian stable is the best way to go, but I don't have > exper

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Harry Putnam
"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: >> emerge --pretend -vuDN world Welcome to another former gentoo hand. If you have X running: I'm pretty sure, though have never used it, that there is a little tool on you desktop menus somewhere. With a name like `Software updates', probably under system tools or

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Carl Johnson
Tanstaafl writes: > Hello all, > > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. ... > Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance tasks like this? You might want to look into the debian-reference package. It is also availab

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 08:44:49AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hello all, > > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. > > I've read man apt-get, but didn't find answers to these questions. > What I'm looking for is the equivalent co

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
Brian wrote: On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 08:44:49 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. eix-sync to synchronizes the local repo with the online one Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance task

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread John Hasler
Sven Hartge writes: > Depending on which version of Debian you installed, you will rarely get > any updates at all. Wheezy (7.x) is stable and only get security updates > and major bug fixes via point releases about every two months: > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases Don't wai

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 08:44:49 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. > > eix-sync > to synchronizes the local repo with the online one apt-get update > eix packagename > shows all available version

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Sven Hartge
Tanstaafl wrote: > In gentoo, I routinely perform pretend updates to see what updates are > available, so a process like: Depending on which version of Debian you installed, you will rarely get any updates at all. Wheezy (7.x) is stable and only get security updates and major bug fixes via point

SOLVED: Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-03 8:43 AM, Brian wrote: On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 07:29:52 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Since I've configured eth0 for a static IP, why are these DHCP requests even happening? I've looked in /etc/init.d and don't see anything about a DHCP client. And most importantly, how do I stop them? I

New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello all, I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. I've read man apt-get, but didn't find answers to these questions. What I'm looking for is the equivalent commands in debian to achieve the same things. In gentoo, I routinel

Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 07:29:52 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > Since I've configured eth0 for a static IP, why are these DHCP > requests even happening? I've looked in /etc/init.d and don't see > anything about a DHCP client. And most importantly, how do I stop > them? I know I could probably uninstall

Half-OT: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 07:29 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > (Debian and FreeBSD being the top contenders) There's a Debian BSD port too: https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD And Arch Linux provides a FreeBSD port like approach: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Build_System I made bad

New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-03 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello all, First posting to the list. I'm a long time Gentoo user, but I'm playing with my first Debian system since many years ago. I've been considering a wholesale change to another distro (Debian and FreeBSD being the top contenders) for some time now due to some of the changes that have

Re: New to Debian (what I've done so far)

2010-06-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 03:37:27PM -0700, ABSDoug wrote: > I'm in Windows right now for my iPhone... SO slow, that last blank E-mail was > a Windows freeze issue. That message alone will get you quite a bit of help. :)_ -- "Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet." -- Na

Re: New to Debian (what I've done so far)

2010-06-08 Thread ABSDoug
Sorry... I messed up! I thought I had made a disk with the full install... I made another copy of the net install. I've got it working. Now for getting my wireless working. I'll start another thread. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Fwd: Re: New to Debian (what I've done so far)

2010-06-07 Thread Alexander Batischev
- Forwarded message from ABSDoug - Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:39:53 -0700 (PDT) From: ABSDoug To: Alexander Batischev Subject: Re: New to Debian (what I've done so far) --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Alexander Batischev wrote: > How did you try to install Gnome? Did you check "Inst

Re: New to Debian (what I've done so far)

2010-06-07 Thread Alexander Batischev
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 03:37:27PM -0700, ABSDoug wrote: > Javier, thanks for pointing me in the right direction! & yes I'm subscribed... > don't know why I didn't get the orginal replys to my original post, but I am > now. Did you read manual I mentioned before? Anyone can write to debian-user, b

Re: New to Debian (what I've done so far)

2010-06-07 Thread Mark
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:13 PM, ABSDoug wrote: > 1st, tried to do "Installing Debian GNU/Linux via the > Internet"(debian-504-i386-netinst.iso) but could not connect to wireless. At > the time I did not have physical access to the router, but that can be done > now if necessary. > > 2nd, tried th

Re: New to Debian (what I've done so far)

2010-06-07 Thread ABSDoug
I'm in Windows right now for my iPhone... SO slow, that last blank E-mail was a Windows freeze issue. Javier, thanks for pointing me in the right direction! & yes I'm subscribed... don't know why I didn't get the orginal replys to my original post, but I am now. --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Javier Ba

Re: New to Debian (what I've done so far)

2010-06-07 Thread ABSDoug
--- On Mon, 6/7/10, Javier Barroso wrote: From: Javier Barroso Subject: Re: New to Debian (what I've done so far) To: "ABSDoug" Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 6:25 PM On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:13 AM, ABSDoug wrote: 1st, tried to do "I

Re: New to Debian (what I've done so far)

2010-06-07 Thread Alexander Batischev
Hi, On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 03:13:11PM -0700, ABSDoug wrote: > 1st, tried to do "Installing Debian GNU/Linux via the Internet" > (debian-504-i386-netinst.iso) but could not connect to wireless. At the time > I did not have physical access to the router, but that can be done now if > necessary. On

Re: New to Debian (what I've done so far)

2010-06-07 Thread Javier Barroso
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:13 AM, ABSDoug wrote: > 1st, tried to do "Installing Debian GNU/Linux via the > Internet"(debian-504-i386-netinst.iso) but could not connect to wireless. At > the time I did not have physical access to the router, but that can be done > now if necessary. > > 2nd, tried t

New to Debian (what I've done so far)

2010-06-07 Thread ABSDoug
1st, tried to do "Installing Debian GNU/Linux via the Internet"(debian-504-i386-netinst.iso) but could not connect to wireless. At the time I did not have physical access to the router, but that can be done now if necessary. 2nd, tried the big DVD image (debian-504-i386-DVD-1.iso). Tried to ru

Re: New to Debian

2009-12-04 Thread Alan Greenberger
On 2009-12-03, deb...@toursbymexico.com wrote: > > 2) How can I install KDE? Currently it is running with Gnome... I've just > download all 5 DVDs plus the updates one... the gnome (un)install shows > most KDE applications to install, but not the full window manager... and, > once installed, is it

Re: New to Debian

2009-12-03 Thread John Hasler
Miguel writes: > Am thinking on making a new installation to findout how to use the > expert mode, perhaps in such way I will be able to make a more > detailed installation that allows me to choose LILO too... You are overthinking this. Just install the lilo package ("apt-get install lilo"), read

Re: New to Debian

2009-12-03 Thread debian
Hi Rob I did what you say but the installer does not give a LILO option, it only warns that the system will not boot without GRUB and forced me to choose YES... Am thinking on making a new installation to findout how to use the expert mode, perhaps in such way I will be able to make a more detaile

Re: New to Debian

2009-12-03 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 09:29:57AM -0700, deb...@toursbymexico.com wrote: > Hello > > I'm new to Debian, have used Slackware for years but latest release was a > mess so I decided to move to Debian and give it a try, however I have some > doubts and need to complete my c

Re: New to Debian

2009-12-03 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 09:29 -0700, deb...@toursbymexico.com wrote: > I'm new to Debian, have used Slackware for years but latest release was a > mess so I decided to move to Debian and give it a try, Welcome! > 1) How can I disable the graphical login and/or avoid X11 to start &

Re: New to Debian

2009-12-03 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Kumar Appaiah wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 09:29:57AM -0700, deb...@toursbymexico.com wrote: >> 4) Is it possible to install LILO instead of GRUB? I know it is better and >> advanced, but I like LILO... would it be safe to install it without >> breaking some kind of dependence? > > I believe s

Re: New to Debian

2009-12-03 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 08:29, wrote: > Hello > > I'm new to Debian, have used Slackware for years but latest release was a > mess so I decided to move to Debian and give it a try, however I have some > doubts and need to complete my configuration to keep working while > l

Re: New to Debian

2009-12-03 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 09:29:57AM -0700, deb...@toursbymexico.com wrote: > 1) How can I disable the graphical login and/or avoid X11 to start > automatically? I can't install the nVidia driver since it tells me to stop > X11 before. And, is it possible to leave it that way, just with the simple >

New to Debian

2009-12-03 Thread debian
Hello I'm new to Debian, have used Slackware for years but latest release was a mess so I decided to move to Debian and give it a try, however I have some doubts and need to complete my configuration to keep working while learning to use this new distro, so these are my current doubts: 1

Re: [SOLVED] new to debian need help with fonts rendering (?)

2009-07-22 Thread thirstyh2o
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:46:46 +, thirstyh2o wrote: > font rendering in Ubuntu is way easier on my eyes than in Lenny SOLVED. Since I did it long time ago I totally forgotten that I installed under Ubuntu MS TrueType fonts and configured X to use them. All I needed in Lenny was to install

Re: new to debian need help with fonts rendering (?)

2009-07-22 Thread thirstyh2o
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:36:34 +0200, Giuseppe Marinelli wrote: > This is something I have been coping with since my switch to Linux. I > tried multiple font types (DejaVu, Bitstream, Liberation) and multiple > configurations but I have not managed to get a decent font rendering > yet. > > The pres

Re: new to debian need help with fonts rendering (?)

2009-07-22 Thread thirstyh2o
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:22:06 +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: > The proprietary driver improves performance even for other stuff though > it is more likely to crash, especially during suspend/resume. Installed the proprietary driver but did not have a lot of improvements (if any) with it either.

Re: new to debian need help with fonts rendering (?)

2009-07-22 Thread Giuseppe Marinelli
On Tuesday 21 July 2009 03:52:06 Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: > thirstyh2o wrote: > > Hi, folks. > > > > I'm coming from Ubuntu crowd where I spent last couple of years. Finally > > decided:"Why 'Debian based', why not Debian itself". > > > > So to be. I've installed Debian 5.0.2 on my Dell Latitude D8

Re: new to debian need help with fonts rendering (?)

2009-07-20 Thread Raj Kiran Grandhi
thirstyh2o wrote: Hi, folks. I'm coming from Ubuntu crowd where I spent last couple of years. Finally decided:"Why 'Debian based', why not Debian itself". So to be. I've installed Debian 5.0.2 on my Dell Latitude D820 as dual boot to my Ubuntu Jaunty. The laptop has Nvidia video card on it.

new to debian need help with fonts rendering (?)

2009-07-20 Thread thirstyh2o
Hi, folks. I'm coming from Ubuntu crowd where I spent last couple of years. Finally decided:"Why 'Debian based', why not Debian itself". So to be. I've installed Debian 5.0.2 on my Dell Latitude D820 as dual boot to my Ubuntu Jaunty. The laptop has Nvidia video card on it. The resolution and

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-23 Thread Mark Shroyer
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 09:45:05PM +, Glyn Astill wrote: > > 'ALL=(ALL) ALL' is no more dangerous than having the 'su' binary > > available. > > > > The NOPASSWD option is not the default. > > No. For su they'd have to enter the root password, for sudo su they'd > just have to enter the passw

Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux

2009-05-23 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 03:03:23AM -0500, dwain wrote: > hello all. i just installed debian tonight next to win xp. they seem to > play well together. i was trying to setup the bug report and found that i > can't sudo into root. i can get into the synaptic package manager with the > root p

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-05-22_18:19:19, dwain wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > Hi, dwain I went back in the archives and read your original post. It is pretty clear to me from that post that you are a single user working on your own computer. There is no sysadmin to help or

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread Neal Hogan
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:19 PM, dwain wrote: > > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> >> > i too was disappointed.  i tried su and authentication failed.  how do i >> > update my system without being able to log in as root? >> > >> > now i don't mind a spirited discussio

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 07:09:17PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 05:50:28PM -0500, dwain wrote: > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, George wrote: > > [snip] > > A last resort would be: > > 1.physically disconnect the box from the network. > 2.boot a live CD

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread dwain
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > i too was disappointed. i tried su and authentication failed. how do i > > update my system without being able to log in as root? > > > > now i don't mind a spirited discussion on the pros and cons of sudo vs. > su, > > but my origina

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 05:50:28PM -0500, dwain wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, George wrote: > > > I was a little disappointed being called out on my suggestions in my > > original post. Obviously the person isn’t a sys admin and from my > > understanding the whole purpose of sudo is s

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread dwain
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, George wrote: > I was a little disappointed being called out on my suggestions in my > original post. Obviously the person isn’t a sys admin and from my > understanding the whole purpose of sudo is so the user only has root > privileges for that given command inst

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In Friday 22 May 2009, Glyn wrote: >--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> Glyn Astill wrote: >> > ALL=(All) ALL is a bad idea. >> >> Um, no. With 'ALL=(ALL) ALL' they would still have to >> type in their >> password unless they had recently given their >> credentials. If you want

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread Glyn Astill
--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. > Subject: Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux) > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Friday, 22 May, 2009, 9:20 PM > In <857394.80354...@web23608.mail.ird.

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <857394.80354...@web23608.mail.ird.yahoo.com>, Glyn Astill wrote: >--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> It's not equivalent to running as root, since (a) you have >> to prefix >> privileged operations with "sudo", (b) you have to re-auth >> such actions by >> entering your pass

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread Glyn Astill
--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. > Subject: Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux) > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Friday, 22 May, 2009, 8:14 PM > In <20090522183807.ga16...@marksh

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <78582fa40905221202r3efedabege566a47c61144...@mail.gmail.com>, S Scharf wrote: >On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Shroyer < >subscriber+deb...@markshroyer.com >wrote: >> It *would* be safer to use neither su nor sudo, and only have root log >> in on a separate, secure console, thereby elim

RE: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread George
>From: S Scharf [mailto:ss11...@gmail.com] >Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:03 PM >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux) >On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Shroyer >wrote: >It *would* be safer to us

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090522183807.ga16...@markshroyer.com>, Mark Shroyer wrote: >On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:56:18AM -0700, Thorny wrote: >> You've just advised an obvious newbie (stated in post) on how to make >> his system insecure. Giving ALL=(All) ALL rights to a normal user is >> pretty much the same as runni

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread S Scharf
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Shroyer < subscriber+deb...@markshroyer.com >wrote: > > It *would* be safer to use neither su nor sudo, and only have root log > in on a separate, secure console, thereby eliminating the possibility of > password sniffing from a compromised regular account. H

sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-22 Thread Mark Shroyer
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:56:18AM -0700, Thorny wrote: > You've just advised an obvious newbie (stated in post) on how to make his > system insecure. Giving ALL=(All) ALL rights to a normal user is pretty > much the same as running as root and is not recommended on a Debian > system. It is what wa

RE: new to list, new to debian, new to linux

2009-05-22 Thread Thorny
On Fri, 22 May 2009 06:14:59 -0400, George posted: > You have to install the sudo package to be able to use sudo. > > > > If you want to install sudo you will first need to open a terminal and > type: > > $ su > > $ > > # aptitude update <- let it do it’s thing and it will tell you if there

Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux

2009-05-22 Thread Daryl Styrk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 08:45:03AM -0400, Bob Parnes wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:24:49AM -0400, Daryl Styrk wrote: > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:14:59AM -0400, George wrote: > > > You have to install the sudo package to be able to use sudo. >

RE: new to list, new to debian, new to linux

2009-05-22 Thread George
-Original Message- From: Daryl Styrk [mailto:darylst...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:25 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:14:59AM -0400, George

Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux

2009-05-22 Thread Daryl Styrk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:14:59AM -0400, George wrote: > You have to install the sudo package to be able to use sudo. > > > # vim /etc/sudoers < now you can edit the sudoers file and add your username. > The new line will look just like the line

RE: new to list, new to debian, new to linux

2009-05-22 Thread George
orge Randall From: dwain [mailto:dwain.alf...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:03 AM To: debian Subject: new to list, new to debian, new to linux hello all. i just installed debian tonight next to win xp. they seem to play well together. i was trying to setup the bug report and

Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux

2009-05-22 Thread Daryl Styrk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 03:03:23AM -0500, dwain wrote: > hello all. i just installed debian tonight next to win xp. they seem to > play well together. i was trying to setup the bug report and found that i > can't sudo into root. i can get into the

new to list, new to debian, new to linux

2009-05-22 Thread dwain
hello all. i just installed debian tonight next to win xp. they seem to play well together. i was trying to setup the bug report and found that i can't sudo into root. i can get into the synaptic package manager with the root password and this has me a bit confused why i can't login as root in

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2007-01-02 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 02:10:40PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > On Monday 01 January 2007 02:24, Mike Myers wrote: > > On 1/1/07, Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > m-a update > > > m-a prepare > > > m-a a-i nvidia > > > > > > modconf > > > -> select and load the nv

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2007-01-02 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Monday 01 January 2007 02:24, Mike Myers wrote: > On 1/1/07, Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > m-a update > > m-a prepare > > m-a a-i nvidia > > > > modconf > > -> select and load the nvidia module > > > > m-a stands for the module-assistant. The above procedure requires f

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2006-12-31 Thread Mike Myers
On 1/1/07, Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 31 December 2006 12:24, Mike Myers wrote: > > Thanks for the tips! I downloaded the etch cd and it detected my card and > installed fine. The only issue now is getting the nvidia driver installed. > The 'nv' driver doesn't wor

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2006-12-31 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Sunday 31 December 2006 12:24, Mike Myers wrote: > > Thanks for the tips! I downloaded the etch cd and it detected my card and > installed fine. The only issue now is getting the nvidia driver installed. > The 'nv' driver doesn't work with my widescreen display at all. It looks > like to do t

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2006-12-31 Thread Mike Myers
Yes! That's exactly what I was looking for. I also had to install the nvidia-glx package to allow xorg to use the driver. Thanks a lot! On 12/31/06, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 11:24:03AM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the tips! I

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2006-12-31 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 11:24:03AM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: > > > Thanks for the tips! I downloaded the etch cd and it detected my card and > installed fine. The only issue now is getting the nvidia driver installed. > The 'nv' driver doesn't work with my widescreen display at all. It looks > li

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2006-12-31 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 11:24:03AM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the tips! I downloaded the etch cd and it detected my card and > installed fine. The only issue now is getting the nvidia driver installed. > The 'nv' driver doesn't work with my widescreen display at all. It looks

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2006-12-31 Thread Mike Myers
On 12/31/06, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:36:57PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: > On 12/30/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:20:41PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: > >> > >> Thanks for the prompt response! > >>

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2006-12-31 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:36:57PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: > On 12/30/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:20:41PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: > >> > >> Thanks for the prompt response! > >> > >> I'm using the i386 netinst. The ethernet card is an intel

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2006-12-31 Thread Mumia W..
On 12/30/2006 11:05 PM, Mike Myers wrote: Hello, I'm new to debian, but not to linux. I've been using Gentoo for the past 6 years or so, but I'm getting tired of having to make sure any new updates aren't going to destroy my systems. I'm just wanting a system I can us

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2006-12-30 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:36:57PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: > I got the i386 stable.. which I think is sarge? (i'm not caught up on the > lingo yet :P) Here's the url I used: > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r4/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r4-i386-netinst.iso > Etch will be release Any Day Now(T

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2006-12-30 Thread Mike Myers
On 12/30/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:20:41PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: > > Thanks for the prompt response! > > I'm using the i386 netinst. The ethernet card is an intel 1000gigabit > ethernet pro. When I boot to the cd and go into a second termin

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2006-12-30 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:20:41PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: > > Thanks for the prompt response! > > I'm using the i386 netinst. The ethernet card is an intel 1000gigabit > ethernet pro. When I boot to the cd and go into a second terminal, lspci > doesn't run. I guess it doesn't come with the n

Re: new to debian but having installation problems

2006-12-30 Thread Mike Myers
On 12/30/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:05:09PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: > Hello, > > I'm new to debian, but not to linux. I've been using Gentoo for the past 6 > years or so, but I'm getting tired of having to m

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