Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 18 January 2009 18:37:38 Joerg Schilling wrote: > "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: > > >> "Unfortunately Sun then developed the CDDL[1] and Jörg Schilling > > >> released parts of recent versions of cdrtools under this license." > > >> > > >> True. > > > > > >Given the fact that attacking

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: > >> "Unfortunately Sun then developed the CDDL[1] and Jörg Schilling > >> released parts of recent versions of cdrtools under this license." > >> > >> True. > >Given the fact that attacking Sun (the largest donator of OpenSOurce > > software) is definitely FUD, w

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-18 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: winfr...@tilanus.com >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X >Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:28:50 +0100 > >>On 01/18/2009 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-18 Thread Winfried Tilanus
On 01/18/2009 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Hi, > Can anyone that cares (or, perhaps, is > schooled in formal logic and needs some exercise) back me up on that > assertion? Maybe it is time to stop discussing and look at this discussion from a distance. Jörg didn't produce solid evidence for

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-18 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 18 January 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote about 'Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X': >"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: >> On Saturday 17 January 2009, Joerg Schilling >> wrote about 'Re: k3b & brasero >

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: > On Saturday 17 January 2009, Joerg Schilling > wrote about 'Re: k3b & brasero don't > work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X': > >Chris Bannister wrote: > >> http://lwn.net/Articles/198171/ > > > >

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 17 January 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote about 'Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X': >Chris Bannister wrote: >> http://lwn.net/Articles/198171/ > >Everything starting with the word "Unfortunately" in this article is

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
Chris Bannister wrote: > Maybe Jörg could comment on the below article: > > http://lwn.net/Articles/198171/ Let me answer as quick as your question was: Everything starting with the word "Unfortunately" in this article is plain FUD. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jör

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 04:31:47PM +0100, Winfried Tilanus wrote: > On 01/16/2009 Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > Debian however is definitively in conflict with the Copyright law > > Jörg, this is a severe accusation. If it is true, then it calls for > immediate action. So I ask you once aga

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,10.Jan.09, 12:30:07, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Still, I have no doubt reportbug could be improved. > > http://packages.debian.org/reportbug-ng Careful, several Debian Developers have complained about it, including the Release Team: http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/serendipity/index.php?/

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-16 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 2009 January 16 09:57:53 Jochen Schulz wrote: >Joerg Schilling: >> You as a user are not going to run into problems as the Copyright law >> allows to run software independent from whether it has been published >> illegally. Debian however is definitively in conflict with the Copyright >>

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-16 Thread Jochen Schulz
Joerg Schilling: > Jochen Schulz wrote: > >> Jörg, is there anything we can do to make you recognize the fact that >> there are different opinions on that subject and that there is no sense >> in trying to educate anyone on this list? You are doing yourself and >> this list a disservice by repeat

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-16 Thread Winfried Tilanus
On 01/16/2009 Joerg Schilling wrote: > Debian however is definitively in conflict with the Copyright law Jörg, this is a severe accusation. If it is true, then it calls for immediate action. So I ask you once again: please give us all juridical details, so we can judge the validity of this a

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jochen Schulz wrote: > Joerg Schilling: > > > > As mentioned before: cdrkit is neither free nor working. > > Jörg, is there anything we can do to make you recognize the fact that > there are different opinions on that subject and that there is no sense > in trying to educate anyone on this list?

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-15 Thread Jochen Schulz
Joerg Schilling: > > As mentioned before: cdrkit is neither free nor working. Jörg, is there anything we can do to make you recognize the fact that there are different opinions on that subject and that there is no sense in trying to educate anyone on this list? You are doing yourself and this lis

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 2009 January 15 09:10:21 Joerg Schilling wrote: >"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: >> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> >So you are happy if someone givey you pre-alpha's and calls them >> > "stable"? This sounds really strange. >> >> My first requirement is that the release team does not feel t

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: > >So you are happy if someone givey you pre-alpha's and calls them "stable"? > >This sounds really strange. > > My first requirement is that the release team does not feel the need to use > the qualifier "alpha". I did not say that was my only condition. Please

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 2009 January 12 09:41:45 Joerg Schilling wrote: >"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: >> >The minimum requirements one need to have on a "stable release" is that >> > it does not have known bugs at the time of piublishing. >> >> We have different requirements for a stable release. >> >> >Cdre

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: > >The minimum requirements one need to have on a "stable release" is that it > >does not have known bugs at the time of piublishing. > > We have different requirements for a stable release. > > >Cdrecord had 50 stable releases that match the requirements within th

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-12 Thread Rainer Kluge
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. schrieb: If Paul makes a bug report, this will just add another bug to the long list of bugs in cdrkit but it will not result in a bugfix. Since previous bugs files have resulted in a bugfix, I choose not to believe your predictions of the future. Given the bug stati

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-11 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 2009 January 11 08:17:19 Joerg Schilling wrote: >Then please follow the Nettiquette rules and send Cc:'s! The rules for this mailing list are available from the URL I posted. Please follow them and do not CC me on posts to the list. If you would like to be CC'd on posts to the list,

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: > On Friday 2009 January 09 09:25:31 Joerg Schilling wrote: > >There recently have been some mails from Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. and > >Johannes Wiedersich that have not been send to me, so it seems that the > >authors are not interested in a discussion. > > Actually

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-11 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat January 10 2009, Celejar wrote: > > yes, that is my bug report. When I type "reportbug" it started the > > process. I'm not sure how it picked that namd/email combo, unless I > > signed up for reportbug with it long ago I use my yahoo account for > > some online STUFF where I don't want

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-10 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:37:23 -0500 Paul Cartwright wrote: ... > yes, that is my bug report. When I type "reportbug" it started the process. > I'm not sure how it picked that namd/email combo, unless I signed up for > reportbug with it long ago I use my yahoo account for some online STUFF

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-10 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat January 10 2009, Bob Cox wrote: > Hi Paul - I have just been looking at this bug report of yours, which I > assume is the one at > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=511369   yes, that is my bug report. When I type "reportbug" it started the process. I'm not sure how it picked

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-10 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 09:59:52PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Friday 2009 January 09 21:15:31 Paul Cartwright wrote: > >On Fri January 9 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >> I usually search/browse b.d.o looking for > >> my bug.  If I find it I just add more information by email.

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Bob Cox
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 01:32:47 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. (b...@iguanasuicide.net) wrote: > On Saturday 2009 January 10 00:22:17 Bob Cox wrote: > >Anyway, in your bug report you say you "took out" genisoimage, but then > >go on to say you were able to successfully use mkisofs. However, on

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 2009 January 10 00:22:17 Bob Cox wrote: >Anyway, in your bug report you say you "took out" genisoimage, but then >go on to say you were able to successfully use mkisofs. However, on my >system, mkisofs is just a symlink to genisoimage. In fact the package >description for mkisofs say

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Bob Cox
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 21:32:20 -0500, Paul Cartwright (a...@pcartwright.com) wrote: > On Fri January 9 2009, Rainer Kluge wrote: > > I am afraid that this bug report will have no effect. The problem > > discussed in this thread seems to be a problem in the tools used by k3b > > and not a probl

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 2009 January 09 21:15:31 Paul Cartwright wrote: >On Fri January 9 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> I usually search/browse b.d.o looking for >> my bug.  If I find it I just add more information by email.  If I am >> unable to find it, I'll then use reportbug and generally tell repor

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri January 9 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > It's really a judgement call.  I usually search/browse b.d.o looking for my > bug.  If I find it I just add more information by email.  If I am unable to > find it, I'll then use reportbug and generally tell reportbug that "None of > these are

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 2009 January 09 20:32:20 Paul Cartwright wrote: >On Fri January 9 2009, Rainer Kluge wrote: >> I am afraid that this bug report will have no effect. The problem >> discussed in this thread seems to be a problem in the tools used by k3b >> and not a problem in k3b itself. The bug report sh

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri January 9 2009, Rainer Kluge wrote: > I am afraid that this bug report will have no effect. The problem > discussed in this thread seems to be a problem in the tools used by k3b > and not a problem in k3b itself. The bug report should be for growisofs. > I would be surprised if the k3b maint

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
cate the thread. >  Your description "see thread is debian-user: > Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X" is much harder > to find than you might think, especially "later".  A link to gmane or marc > a al. would be best, I think. here is the orig

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri January 9 2009, Rainer Kluge wrote: > ...and you should try to give a more specific description of the > problem. Does the write process fail? yes it did. with K3B it would say completed, yet when I ejected the DVD & then put it back in, it said it was blank. Other times, it wouldstart buri

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 2009 January 09 16:37:23 Wayne Topa wrote: >Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> it is possible that the bug may need to be reassigned (e.g. to >> cdrkit or the kernel). > >I must be missing somthing here. Running Testing/unstable and the only >cdrkit I can find is cdrkit-doc. Is this just

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Wayne Topa
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Friday 2009 January 09 13:50:57 Paul Cartwright wrote: On Fri January 9 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Followup-For: Bug #499066 done. Thank you. You also might want to subscribe to the bug to receive updates to it as email. (Link at the bug page.) A

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
27;t want to repeat information you've already given the mailing list, please add some URL to the bug report that the maintainer can use to locate the thread. Your description "see thread is debian-user: Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X" is much h

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Rainer Kluge
3B stopped working, but Nerolinux works, and cdrecord works. Wodim and genisoimage didn't work. somehow I have to log in to change the info, or.. maybe I can just update reportbug... I'm not real happy with that reportbug system, I probably should have just created a NEW bug, but that one l

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Rainer Kluge
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. schrieb: On Friday 2009 January 09 13:50:57 Paul Cartwright wrote: On Fri January 9 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Followup-For: Bug #499066 done. Thank you. You also might want to subscribe to the bug to receive updates to it as email. (Link at the bug page.)

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
gt; cdrkit or the kernel). it also affected Brasero, which is the gnome tool, correct? Not sure that it is kernel related, no kernel updates have been done in quite a while.. still on 2.6.26-1 the problem is, I don't exactly know what broke, all I know is it stopped working. K3B stopped

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 2009 January 09 13:50:57 Paul Cartwright wrote: >On Fri January 9 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >Followup-For: Bug #499066 > >done. Thank you. You also might want to subscribe to the bug to receive updates to it as email. (Link at the bug page.) Also, https://bugs.kde.org/sho

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joerg Schilling wrote: > There recently have been some mails from Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. and > Johannes Wiedersich that have not been send to me, so it seems that the > authors are not interested in a discussion. This was not my intention.

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri January 9 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >point me in the right direction. > > http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting Package: k3b Version: 1.0.5-3 Followup-For: Bug #499066 done. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri January 9 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >point me in the right direction. > > http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting We strongly recommend that you report bugs in Debian using the reportbug program. To install and start it, simply run: aptitude install reportbug; reportbug I'll

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
ion to reproduce the bug on his or her system. > I have now created a large > pile of coasters trying to get k3B, Brasero, and makedvd to work, without > success. Nerolinux works everytime, and I was finally able to burn a DVD > using mkisofs to create an iso image, and cdrecord to burn

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri January 9 2009, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > There is a setting in K3B where you specify the paths to the programs it > uses. (Not sure the exact menu,but it is something like "Configure K3B".) > Settings menu-Configure k3b > If your problem was solved with the original cdrecord, point k3b

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
of coasters trying > to get k3B, Brasero, and makedvd to work, without success. Nerolinux works > everytime, and I was finally able to burn a DVD using mkisofs to create an > iso image, and cdrecord to burn it. Luckily I am command-line literate ( ok, > somewhat) so I can create sc

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
working system that could burn a DVD any time I wanted.Under SUSE 9-10.1 I could, and under Debian Etch I could, and probably earlier this year under Lenny I could. I have now created a large pile of coasters trying to get k3B, Brasero, and makedvd to work, without success. Nerolinux works e

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
going to http://www.cdrkit.org/releases/ and ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ then counting the number of releases since 2005 displayed. >Given the fact that the initator of wodim stopped working on wodim on May > 6th 2007 and started to advertize for nerolinux instead, it is interesting >

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
at is just the way Debian sees things, and does not say anything about the software itself or its author. > Let me go back to the original topic. > > Given the fact that the initator of wodim stopped working on wodim on May 6th > 2007 and started to advertize for nerolinux instead,

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Joerg Schilling
advertize for nerolinux instead, it is interesting to read the term nerolinux in the subject of this thread. Is Debian moving to closed software like nerolinux or what is the backgrund for not distrubuting working CD/DVD/BD writing software with Debian? Did the initiator of wodim intentionally introduce

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Winfried Tilanus
On 01/09/2009 Joerg Schilling wrote: Hi, > It does not make sense to inform you about these details. It is a pity you see it like that, see below. > The people who are responsible for the violations and the redistributors are > informed, they know that they are in conflit GPL and and that >

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-09 Thread Joerg Schilling
John Hasler wrote: > > The people behind wodim do not follow the conditions of the GPL and they > > do not follow the conditions in the higher worthy Urbebertrechts law. > > > Whether the name is used directly or via a symlink does not matter. The > > original names are used without permission an

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-08 Thread John Hasler
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. writes: > The DFSG doesn't mention the CDDL specifically, but I'm fairly sure CDDL > is generally considered a free license. I could be wrong, DFSG-free is > generally more strict that OSI-open. The CDDL is DFSG-compliant. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debi

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-08 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 2009 January 08 04:14:02 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: >Joerg Schilling wrote: >>It _is_ a shame >> that Debian does not come with the bug-free original software but with a >> replacement that causes many problems for the Debian U

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-08 Thread John Hasler
Joerg Schilling writes: > Well, I did discuss the problems with a German specialized lawyer who is > also active on the OSS community and it turns out that I am of course > able to sue the people behind wodim for more than violation. > ... > The people behind wodim do not follow the conditions of

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-08 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 2009 January 08 08:08:58 Joerg Schilling wrote: >"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: >> On Wednesday 2009 January 07 10:23:52 Joerg Schilling wrote: >> > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> > The problem with wodim is that it is not a real fork. >> > A fork is something that is supported, >>

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: > On Wednesday 2009 January 07 10:23:52 Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > The problem with wodim is that it is not a real fork. > > A fork is something that is supported, > > Not true. "In software engineering, a project fork happens wh

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-08 Thread John Hasler
Joerg.Schilling writes: > Debian acuses me for creating an alleged GPL problem. Debian has accused you of nothing. Debian has determined that the license conflict you have created could lead to legal problems for its distributors and so has chosen not to distribute your software. > Debian on the

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Debian on the other side violates GPL and Urheberrcht with the cdrkit fork. > > > > I've seen you say that several times on this thread (an in other times), > but I've missed the explanation of exactly why did this allegedly > happen. I

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-08 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joerg Schilling wrote: > Debian on the other side violates GPL and Urheberrcht with the cdrkit fork. You should consider filing a bug report (or point us to the relevant one in case I missed it). Violation of a license or a law is considered RC, IIUC.

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-08 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Debian on the other side violates GPL and Urheberrcht with the cdrkit fork. > I've seen you say that several times on this thread (an in other times), but I've missed the explanation of exactly why did this allegedly happen. I also did not find it in the cdrecord site,

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
John Hasler wrote: > Joerg.Schilling writes: > > This seems to be an interesting claim. > > > If you only believe a lawsuit in court, then you would obviously not > > believe the > > claims from Debian. Nice to see! > > Debian is accusing no one of copyright infringement. In case you did no

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-08 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo Jörg, Joerg Schilling wrote: >It _is_ a shame > that > Debian does not come with the bug-free original software but with a > replacement > that causes many problems for the Debian Use

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-07 Thread John Hasler
Joerg.Schilling writes: > On the other side, Debian introduced problems with GPL and Urheberrecht > in the fork so wodim/cdrkit cannot be legally distributed (see above). I wrote: > When and in what court was your lawsuit filed? Where can we read the > decision? If no suit has been filed, where

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-07 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
Disclaimers: IANAL; IANADD; TINLA; TINASOTODP. On Wednesday 2009 January 07 13:26:33 Joerg Schilling wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > Joerg.Schilling writes: > > > On the other side, Debian introduced problems with GPL and Urheberrecht > > > in the fork so wodim/cdrkit cannot be legally distribute

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
John Hasler wrote: > Joerg.Schilling writes: > > On the other side, Debian introduced problems with GPL and Urheberrecht > > in the fork so wodim/cdrkit cannot be legally distributed (see above). > > When and in what court was your lawsuit filed? Where can we read the > decision? If no suit has

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-07 Thread John Hasler
Joerg.Schilling writes: > On the other side, Debian introduced problems with GPL and Urheberrecht > in the fork so wodim/cdrkit cannot be legally distributed (see above). When and in what court was your lawsuit filed? Where can we read the decision? If no suit has been filed, where can we read t

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-07 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
I'm sorry if anyone is on the CC list that doesn't want to be. I was simply following Joerg's lead. I understand that unrequested CCing is against the Code of Conduct @ http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct and will gladly drop your address from my mails if requested. On Wednesday

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
s supported, but wodim is unsupported. This pseudo fork has been initiated by a person that soon stopped working on the "fork" and then started to advertize for Nerolinux. Please explain me the background for this kind of habbit! >assertion that wodim violates the GPL and Germany's

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Paul Cartwright wrote: > > We had a server outage last weekend. If you still have problems, ask your > > ISP for help, thousands of people are using ftp.berlios.de without any > > problem. > > > > Jörg > > I am having problems getting to this site and downloading updates: > > http://freshmeat.net

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-06 Thread Paul Cartwright
an what it is defined to mean. I seem to have issues getting files from his site.. even using --passive-ftp fails.. I'll keep trying.. I guess my question is, what is NeroLinux using THAT WORKS, that K3B ISN'T.. I hate to use Nerolinux ! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 2009 January 06 06:17:49 Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Tue January 6 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > >Are you sure it it using the "new cdrecord"? > > > > What do you understand by "new cdrecord"? > > I don't think I knew all of that, thanks for the background. Why do people > always have

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Please keep me on the CC! Paul Cartwright wrote: >> I recommand to have a look at the latest release (2.01.01a55) in >> ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ >> make sure to be root when calling make install, to allow cdrecord to be >> installed suid root as needed on Linux. >I have a48 >f

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-06 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue January 6 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: > >Are you sure it it using the "new cdrecord"? > > What do you understand by "new cdrecord"? > I don't think I knew all of that, thanks for the background. Why do people always have to mess with something that is working!! > > I recommand to have a

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
ear reasons. There are no real bug fixes and there is no development in wodim. Wodim still has more bugs than the original cdrecord it was based on. Since May 2007, the initiator of the fork did not work on a single change but rather advertizes for the closed source software "nerolinux&quo

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon January 5 2009, Chris Bannister wrote: > > ok, I'm not sure if it was the addition of the new cdrecord that I > > installed, but this just worked: > > $ makedvd -burn -speed 2 > > Are you sure it it using the "new cdrecord"? no, how would I know? the man page doesn't show any options for cdr

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 07:37:56AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Sat January 3 2009, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Have you changed/upgraded any hardware, in particular, added any HDs? > > Does /var/log/syslog show anything interesting? > > Does it work from the command-line, using videotrans or

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does- works ar 2X

2009-01-04 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat January 3 2009, Chris Bannister wrote: > Have you changed/upgraded any hardware, in particular, added any HDs? > Does /var/log/syslog show anything interesting? > Does it work from the command-line, using videotrans or tovid or ...? ok, I'm not sure if it was the addition of the new cdrecor

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does

2009-01-04 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat January 3 2009, Chris Bannister wrote: > Have you changed/upgraded any hardware, in particular, added any HDs? yes, actually I did add a second HD.. /dev/sdb > Does /var/log/syslog show anything interesting? It did show some errors but, no one at the time mentioned anything. > Does it work

Re: k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does

2009-01-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 08:33:26PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: > I've been having problems burning DVDs using K3B recently. I know I used to > do > this, not too long ago, maybe 2-3 months.. > Now I'm getting errors, and K3B says it burns the DVD, then ejects it, but it > is empty. Or it stops

Re: k3b won't burn, nerolinux will

2008-12-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed December 31 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > > ii  cdrecord       9:1.1.9-1      Dummy transition package for wodim > > the link to the ftpde site seems to be down, or not available to me > > now.. > > Right.  You'll have to install it from source. that's what I was trying to get, get the tar

Re: k3b won't burn, nerolinux will

2008-12-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/30/08 22:22, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Tue December 30 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: Wodim is a fork of cdrecord, which isn't in Debian anymore (which itself is a long, fruitless discussion). You could install it from source and hopefully tell k3b to use it. I did aptitude install cdrecord, t

Re: k3b won't burn, nerolinux will

2008-12-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue December 30 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > Wodim is a fork of cdrecord, which isn't in Debian anymore (which > itself is a long, fruitless discussion).  You could install it from > source and hopefully tell k3b to use it. I did aptitude install cdrecord, then I got this: ii cdrecord 9:1.

Re: k3b won't burn, nerolinux will

2008-12-30 Thread Joerg Schilling
>Configuring Cdrkit, version 1.1.9 >CMake Error at wodim/CMakeLists.txt:18 (MESSAGE): > Error: found a Linux system but no libcap header. Install libcap-dev. Thanks! this is another hint that wodim is in conflict with the GPL. Some notes: k3b works best with cdrecord as cdrecord is well main

Re: k3b won't burn, nerolinux will

2008-12-30 Thread Bob Cox
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 06:54:01 -0500, Paul Cartwright (a...@pcartwright.com) wrote: > On Mon December 29 2008, A. F. Cano wrote: > > k3b uses wodim as a backend, so I think the problem is with wodim. > > I tried it on a Philips CD/DVD writer SDVD6004.  That gave the fewest > > errors, but the

Re: k3b won't burn, nerolinux will

2008-12-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/30/08 05:35, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Mon December 29 2008, A. F. Cano wrote: Well, you're not alone. I spent days and wasted an untold amount of blanks until I finally gave up. so, what do you use in its place?? k3b uses wodim as a backend, so I think the problem is with wodim. I tr

Re: k3b won't burn, nerolinux will

2008-12-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon December 29 2008, Justin Piszcz wrote: > What kind of burner/media? ok, so I wanted to install cdrkit. I see cdrkit-doc installed, but it can't find cdrkit. So I download the source to cdrkit-1.1.9 and try a make: # make make: [build/Makefile] Error 1 (ignored) cd build && cmake .. CMake

Re: k3b won't burn, nerolinux will

2008-12-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon December 29 2008, A. F. Cano wrote: > k3b uses wodim as a backend, so I think the problem is with wodim. > I tried it on a Philips CD/DVD writer SDVD6004.  That gave the fewest > errors, but the disks were useless afterward.  They caused errors when > read in the same drive.  They could be r

Re: k3b won't burn, nerolinux will

2008-12-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon December 29 2008, A. F. Cano wrote: > Well, you're not alone.  I spent days and wasted an untold amount > of blanks until I finally gave up. so, what do you use in its place?? > > k3b uses wodim as a backend, so I think the problem is with wodim. > I tried it on a Philips CD/DVD writer SDV

Re: k3b won't burn, nerolinux will

2008-12-29 Thread A. F. Cano
hrough and just stalls. I've tried cranking down the speed to 4X ( > 16X burner). I have tried using different speeds on all 3 drives and wodim ignores the requests. It goes ahead and burns at the speed the drive says it can do it. > I installed the demo for nerolinux, and burned a DVD t

Re: k3b won't burn, nerolinux will

2008-12-29 Thread Justin Piszcz
d cranking down the speed to 4X ( 16X burner). I installed the demo for nerolinux, and burned a DVD the first time. I am a member of the cdrom group, and I've tried to run k3b via a root console, no luck. what to look for? I also removed/purged K3B and reinstalled it. no change. running Lenny,

k3b won't burn, nerolinux will

2008-12-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
installed the demo for nerolinux, and burned a DVD the first time. I am a member of the cdrom group, and I've tried to run k3b via a root console, no luck. what to look for? I also removed/purged K3B and reinstalled it. no change. running Lenny, up-to

k3b & brasero don't work, nerolinux does

2008-12-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
I've been having problems burning DVDs using K3B recently. I know I used to do this, not too long ago, maybe 2-3 months.. Now I'm getting errors, and K3B says it burns the DVD, then ejects it, but it is empty. Or it stops about 30% of the way and errors out. I've tried slowing down the burn rate

Re: NeroLinux

2007-06-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Atis wrote: On 6/25/07, Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Folks! Recently i've installed NeroLinux to taste the linux version, at that moment I didn't get the key, passed a few days when I execute NeroLinux this show me a alert box that "this program has expi

Re: NeroLinux

2007-06-26 Thread Atis
On 6/25/07, Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Folks! Recently i've installed NeroLinux to taste the linux version, at that moment I didn't get the key, passed a few days when I execute NeroLinux this show me a alert box that "this program has expired", s

Re: NeroLinux

2007-06-25 Thread Ms Linuz
2007/6/26, Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi Folks! Recently i've installed NeroLinux to taste the linux version, at that moment I didn't get the key, passed a few days when I execute NeroLinux this show me a alert box that "this program has expired", so I del

NeroLinux

2007-06-25 Thread Orestes leal
Hi Folks! Recently i've installed NeroLinux to taste the linux version, at that moment I didn't get the key, passed a few days when I execute NeroLinux this show me a alert box that "this program has expired", so I delete the $HOME/.nero folder, reinstalled nero but this