Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Jun 2017 at 10:57:51 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 07 Jun 2017 at 17:26:30 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Wed 07 Jun 2017 at 10:30:54 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > > > > Remove Ntp and install Chrony. > > > > Too easy. There would be nothing to rant about. :) > > > > https://chron

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-11 Thread David Wright
On Wed 07 Jun 2017 at 17:26:30 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Wed 07 Jun 2017 at 10:30:54 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > > Remove Ntp and install Chrony. > > Too easy. There would be nothing to rant about. :) > > https://chrony.tuxfamily.org/comparison.html I read this and did exactly that: Start-D

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 08 June 2017 08:20:51 Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 07:00:52PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >On Wednesday 07 June 2017 10:54:26 Darac Marjal wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:35:23AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> >On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote: > >

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 08 June 2017 01:54:41 Teemu Likonen wrote: > John Hasler [2017-06-07 10:30:54-05] wrote: > > Remove Ntp and install Chrony. > > Or remove both of those and run: > > sudo timedatectl set-ntp true > > And that's about it. And it looks like this may have solved my pi's clock problem.

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-08 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 07:00:52PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2017 10:54:26 Darac Marjal wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:35:23AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote: >> I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entr

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-08 Thread Curt
On 2017-06-08, Teemu Likonen wrote: > > John Hasler [2017-06-07 10:30:54-05] wrote: > >> Remove Ntp and install Chrony. > > Or remove both of those and run: > > sudo timedatectl set-ntp true > > And that's about it. > I forgot about the built-in systemd-timesyncd. Only functions as a client,

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Teemu Likonen
John Hasler [2017-06-07 10:30:54-05] wrote: > Remove Ntp and install Chrony. Or remove both of those and run: sudo timedatectl set-ntp true And that's about it. -- /// Teemu Likonen - .-.. // // PGP: 4E10 55DC 84E9 DFF6 13D7 8557 719D 69D3 2453 9450 ///

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 June 2017 10:54:26 Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:35:23AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote: > >> I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry > >> for stretch. > >> > >> All the documentation I find

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Jim Ohlstein
Hello, On Wed, 2017-06-07 at 10:35 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote: > > > I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry > > for stretch. > > > > All the documentation I find says to list the ntp servers in the > file > > as: server 0

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Brian
On Wed 07 Jun 2017 at 10:30:54 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Remove Ntp and install Chrony. Too easy. There would be nothing to rant about. :) https://chrony.tuxfamily.org/comparison.html -- Brian.

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread John Hasler
Remove Ntp and install Chrony. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 07 Jun 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 03:54:26PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > As I understand it "server" will do name resolution once and pick an IP > > from the result. "pool" will periodically refresh the name and cycle to > > a different member of the pool. > >

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
Hey look, there's already a bug open: "ntp: Please document 'pool' in ntp.conf" Filed November 1, 2015. Except... it's not open. It's been closed. They sat on it for two years until the stretch freeze, and then "fixed" it in experimental. So we won't even get i

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Joshua Schaeffer
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > I largely agree with Gene. The man pages are incredibly silly. They > don't tell you how to do the Most Basic Common Thing. Instead they > talk about "type s and r addresses" and "a preemptable association > is mobilized" and "mobilizes a

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 03:54:26PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:35:23AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote: I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry for stretch. All the documentation I find says to list

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 03:54:26PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > As I understand it "server" will do name resolution once and pick an IP > from the result. "pool" will periodically refresh the name and cycle to > a different member of the pool. Really? Why isn't this documented? Is it simply urba

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:35:23AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Begin rant: > > From someone who is currently battling a fresh jessie install that didn't > even come with ntpdate installed, and which using the above format > in /etc/ntp.conf is still about 12 hours off on an rpi-3. The ntpdate

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:35:23AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote: I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry for stretch. All the documentation I find says to list the ntp servers in the file as: server 0.XX.pool.ntp.org server

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Kushal Kumaran
ray writes: > I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry for > stretch. > > All the documentation I find says to list the ntp servers in the file as: > server 0.XX.pool.ntp.org > server 1.XX.pool.ntp.org > > An example source from 2017 is https://wiki.debian.org/DateTi

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 June 2017 09:27:19 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:56:59AM -0700, ray wrote: > > The latest Debian doc says to start the line with 'server'. > > The latest Debian implementation starts the line with 'pool'. > > > > Are these interchangeable? > > > > Additionally,

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote: > I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry > for stretch. > > All the documentation I find says to list the ntp servers in the file > as: server 0.XX.pool.ntp.org > server 1.XX.pool.ntp.org > > An example source from 2017 is

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:56:59AM -0700, ray wrote: > The latest Debian doc says to start the line with 'server'. > The latest Debian implementation starts the line with 'pool'. > > Are these interchangeable? > > Additionally, there is a parameter 'iburst' which I did not find in the > Debian d

NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread ray
I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry for stretch. All the documentation I find says to list the ntp servers in the file as: server 0.XX.pool.ntp.org server 1.XX.pool.ntp.org An example source from 2017 is https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime When I open /etc/ntp.conf