On 2023-05-10 09:28:51 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 03:19:31PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On 2023-05-10 15:07:17 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > Note: if you play with .ssh/rc, be careful as there is a risk
> > > that you may not log in any more with ssh in case
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 03:19:31PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2023-05-10 15:07:17 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > Note: if you play with .ssh/rc, be careful as there is a risk
> > that you may not log in any more with ssh in case of mistake
> > (I'm wondering whether there is an undocumen
On 2023-05-10 15:07:17 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> Note: if you play with .ssh/rc, be careful as there is a risk
> that you may not log in any more with ssh in case of mistake
> (I'm wondering whether there is an undocumented way to skip it).
For this point, there are solutions there:
https
On 2023-05-10 14:36:25 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
[...]
> zira:~> ssh cventin xterm
> Connected to cventin (from 140.77.51.8)
> OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) [x86_64]
> DISPLAY: localhost:11.0
>
> and xterm is started as expected. FYI, some data, like DISPLAY, are
> output by my .ssh/rc sc
On 2023-05-09 20:07:26 +0200, zithro wrote:
> On 09 May 2023 18:06, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On 2023-05-05 15:04:27 +0200, zithro wrote:
> > >
> > > journalctl after GUI LOGOFF
> > > -
On 2023-05-09 14:17:14 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> zithro wrote:
> > On 09 May 2023 17:47, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > BTW, you should also try GNU Screen to see if you have the same issue
> > > with it (this could help debugging).
> >
> > Do you mean trying "ssh u@h screen" ?
> > Never tried scr
On 2023-05-09 19:44:48 +0200, zithro wrote:
> On 09 May 2023 17:47, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 2023-05-04 21:07:17 +0200, zithro wrote:
> > > Here is what happens chronologically :
> > >
> > > 1. I start various SSH connections to a host, some normal, some with X
> > > forwarding,
zithro wrote:
> On 09 May 2023 17:47, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > BTW, you should also try GNU Screen to see if you have the same issue
> > with it (this could help debugging).
>
> Do you mean trying "ssh u@h screen" ?
> Never tried screen with GUI apps, does that work ?
Not in a useful way. For
On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 08:07:26PM +0200, zithro wrote:
> I use Ctrl-D to close ssh sessions, "~." does not work, I get "bash: command
> not found".
To use the tilde commands in the ssh client, they have to be at the
"beginning of a line", which means you have to press Enter first. Or
at least ha
On 09 May 2023 18:06, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2023-05-05 15:04:27 +0200, zithro wrote:
journalctl after GUI LOGOFF
[...]
May 05 14:09:14 debzit sshd[14246
On 09 May 2023 17:47, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Hi,
On 2023-05-04 21:07:17 +0200, zithro wrote:
Here is what happens chronologically :
1. I start various SSH connections to a host, some normal, some with X
forwarding, like that: "ssh user@host" and "ssh -X -n user@host GUI_APP"
(like firejail fir
On 2023-05-05 15:04:27 +0200, zithro wrote:
>
> journalctl after GUI LOGOFF
>
[...]
> May 05 14:09:14 debzit sshd[14246]: Received disconnect from IP.IP.IP.IP
>
Hi,
On 2023-05-04 21:07:17 +0200, zithro wrote:
> Here is what happens chronologically :
>
> 1. I start various SSH connections to a host, some normal, some with X
> forwarding, like that: "ssh user@host" and "ssh -X -n user@host GUI_APP"
> (like firejail firefox, firejail thunderbird, etc). Ther
On 06 May 2023 07:07, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sat, May 06, 2023 at 10:24:52AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
Thanks both for the pointers, will report back with results
On 05 May 2023 19:14, Max Nikulin wrote:
Does it happen for newly created user with no customization?
Never tried !
I recommended to do it just for a case that you added something to init
files for the "zithro" user.
AFAIK I didn't customize a lot, as I'm rarely logging to X.
But it won't
On 06 May 2023 06:45, David Wright wrote:
*I login to VC1 and startx for an Xserver*
I think that's why you don't have my problem, your user is always logged
in, even when you close X.
Is the greeter just deferring the ssh command until you login?
Nope, they work without X "direct" login.
On 05/05/2023 12:33, David wrote:
That sounds like what is documented here, with the solution at the end:
$ apt show dbus-user-session
I have tried quite similar steps, it seems the cause is not
dbus-user-session per se.
I have a laptop with Debian 11 bullseye and "minimalistic" KDE
(origi
On Sat, May 06, 2023 at 10:24:52AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 05/05/2023 20:04, zithro wrote:
> > journalctl after GUI LOGOFF
>
> I do not see obvious problems. What might be inspected more closely:
>
> > May 05 14:09:14 debzit systemd[711]: Stopping D-Bus User Message Bus...
>
On Fri 05 May 2023 at 13:59:37 (+0200), zithro wrote:
> On 05 May 2023 07:33, David wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 19:07, zithro wrote:
> >
> > > this is a rather strange problem, I hope the title is explicit enough.
> >
> > Subject: Logging off an X s
On Sat 06 May 2023 at 09:57:30 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 05/05/2023 10:30, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 05 May 2023 at 09:13:04 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote:
> > > On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote:
> > > > 2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do
> > > > some stuff, t
On 05/05/2023 20:04, zithro wrote:
journalctl after GUI LOGOFF
I do not see obvious problems. What might be inspected more closely:
May 05 14:09:14 debzit systemd[711]: Stopping D-Bus User Message Bus...
^^^
If it is the bus
On 05/05/2023 10:30, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 05 May 2023 at 09:13:04 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote:
On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote:
2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do
some stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu.
Immediately, ALL the previous SSH connecti
On 05/05/2023 18:58, zithro wrote:
# loginctl list-sessions
SESSION UID USER SEAT TTY
111 1000 zithro
112 1000 zithro
141 1000 zithro pts/0
I do not see anything suspicious. I suppose, dbus-user-session
hypothesis by David may be more productive. Perhaps you may prev
On 05 May 2023 16:10, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
I have now full logs of before/after GUI logon/logoff, I posted them in the
other post.
Will try to make sense of it with this lead ... after a needed break ^^
I saved that for a look during weekend, now I'm supposed to fix
an update of... forget it
On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 03:26:12PM +0200, zithro wrote:
> On 05 May 2023 14:11, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> > No DE, just a window manager (fvwm2).
>
> Isn't that fluxbox ? That's the GUI I used on Slackware.
> Simple, lean, efficient !
No, quite a bit older. Fluxbox 2000-ish, fvwm 199-smal
On 05 May 2023 14:11, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 01:58:55PM +0200, zithro wrote:
On 05 May 2023 06:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
dbus is a candidate. Let me explain: I have a funny setup -- no systemd,
no dbus (still, Debian buster, and X).
I'm on bullseye, I know how to sw
So, previous post was BEFORE logging in into GUI via VNC.
Now, I have outputs from after GUI LOGIN and after GUI LOGOFF.
I've removed the maximum of useless lines (audio, GUI apps, gvfs stuff,
etc), but tried to keep the most about systemd and dbus, as I'm clueless
about what you wanna read ...
On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 01:58:55PM +0200, zithro wrote:
> On 05 May 2023 06:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > dbus is a candidate. Let me explain: I have a funny setup -- no systemd,
> > no dbus (still, Debian buster, and X).
>
> I'm on bullseye, I know how to switch back to old init, but have no cl
On 05 May 2023 07:33, David wrote:
On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 19:07, zithro wrote:
this is a rather strange problem, I hope the title is explicit enough.
Subject: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections
started previously from outside X
Yeah, I meant title==subject, I was hoping
On 05 May 2023 06:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
dbus is a candidate. Let me explain: I have a funny setup -- no systemd,
no dbus (still, Debian buster, and X).
I'm on bullseye, I know how to switch back to old init, but have no clue
about Dbus (kinda a Linux-GUI-with-systemd noob).
Which DE/DM y
On 05 May 2023 05:30, David Wright wrote:
Isn't it this issue?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19023885
Looks like it, yes !
I'm afraid I can't replicate the problem, though, as I don't have
a "log off" button or menu entry. That might suggest that the
problem is in something I don't r
On 05 May 2023 04:13, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote:
2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do some
stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu.
Immediately, ALL the previous SSH connections started in step 1 get
closed, hence all the shells and
On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 19:07, zithro wrote:
> this is a rather strange problem, I hope the title is explicit enough.
Subject: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections
started previously from outside X
> Here is what happens chronologically :
>
> 1. I start various SSH
On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 09:13:04AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote:
> > 2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do some
> > stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu.
[...]
> Perhaps it may be related to user D-Bus sessions, however I would
On Fri 05 May 2023 at 09:13:04 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote:
> > 2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do
> > some stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu.
> > Immediately, ALL the previous SSH connections started in step 1
> > get c
On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote:
2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do some
stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu.
Immediately, ALL the previous SSH connections started in step 1 get
closed, hence all the shells and the GUI apps (firefox, etc) !
Have you i
Hi all,
this is a rather strange problem, I hope the title is explicit enough.
Here is what happens chronologically :
1. I start various SSH connections to a host, some normal, some with X
forwarding, like that: "ssh user@host" and "ssh -X -n user@host GUI_APP"
(like firejail firefox, firejai
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