On Tuesday 16 April 2002 04:20 pm, - wrote:
> It looks like no one has any first hand experience with any of the 17
> computers. Can someone offer any opinions about the makeup and suitability
> of these computers for Linux operation based on the information provided on
> the web page? Linux is m
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 07:20:31PM -0400, - wrote:
| It looks like no one has any first hand experience with any of the
| 17 computers.
It looks like it.
| Can someone offer any opinions about the makeup and suitability of
| these computers for Linux operation based on the information
| provided
Winmodem.
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From:
alex
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:43
PM
Subject: Linux on Walmart's systemless
computers
Does anyone have first hand knowledge about the
MicroTech/Walmart computers that are
On 0, ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> by that response, you really prove that you have no clue whatsover about what
> drives the profit machine. it's not about raw cost versus median price. it's
> about whatever price a given market can afford. economics 101. check out
> holland, the ne
> the same product in china for the same proportionate dollar value, i've got
> no problem with them. if the median income in the u.s. is indeed $36,000 and
> their pc costs $500, then i hope that they make it available to those who
> make $3600 a year for $50. if that's proveably not the case, ge
begin ben quotation:
>
> by that response, you really prove that you have no clue whatsover about what
> drives the profit machine.
By yours, you prove you believe the "I am losing money on every sale,
but I'll make it up in volume" fallacy.
> it's not about raw cost versus median price.
It i
On Monday 15 April 2002 05:46 am, Shawn McMahon wrote:
> begin ben quotation:
> > libertarian, but i've got to give credit where credit is deserved. the
> > next step is to for all of us who really give a shit to ensure that
> > walmart offers equivalent proportionate discounts wherever it markets
begin ben quotation:
>
> libertarian, but i've got to give credit where credit is deserved. the next
> step is to for all of us who really give a shit to ensure that walmart offers
> equivalent proportionate discounts wherever it markets those machines, and,
> more, to encourage walmart to off
begin R R Potratz quotation:
>
> And what's it turn into on this list ?? Stupid bickering about the
> wages
> that people earn building these PCs...
A large contingent of Open/Free software users won't be content unless
those machines are sold at a loss. Any making of profit is considered
evi
On Sunday 14 April 2002 09:19 pm, Hall Stevenson wrote:
> * dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020414 21:55]:
> > I kinda hope walmart does well in this venture, just to show the
> > industry that we don't want windows pre-installed. Otherwise the local
> > shop is just as good, if not better.
>
> You know,
Amen
On 14 Apr 2002 at 23:19, Hall Stevenson wrote:
* dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020414 21:55]:
> I kinda hope walmart does well in this venture, just to show the
> industry that we don't want windows pre-installed. Otherwise the local
> shop is just as good, if not better.
You know, that was mos
And Amen
On 14 Apr 2002 at 20:46, Craig Dickson wrote:
begin Paul 'Baloo' Johnson quotation:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Nathan E Norman wrote:
>
> > Thankfully we have liberals around to pass laws to tell the rest of us
> > what to do.
>
> As opposed to conservatives who can't seem to keep laws
begin Paul 'Baloo' Johnson quotation:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Nathan E Norman wrote:
>
> > Thankfully we have liberals around to pass laws to tell the rest of us
> > what to do.
>
> As opposed to conservatives who can't seem to keep laws out of the
> bedroom or off women's bodies.
You know, mo
* dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020414 21:55]:
> I kinda hope walmart does well in this venture, just to show the
> industry that we don't want windows pre-installed. Otherwise the local
> shop is just as good, if not better.
You know, that was most people's biggest point when Walmart first
started do
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 08:30:44PM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote:
| * dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020414 20:07]:
| > On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 06:18:56PM -0500, Brian P.D. Smyth wrote:
| > | (snip)
| > | >
| > |
| > | Anyone have a reply to the original question?
| > |
| > | Has anyone successfully i
On Sunday 14 April 2002 05:09 pm, dman wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 06:18:56PM -0500, Brian P.D. Smyth wrote:
> | (snip)
> |
> |
> | Anyone have a reply to the original question?
> |
> | Has anyone successfully installed Debian on a Walmart OSless computer?
>
> I'd also like to know where such
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> Thankfully we have liberals around to pass laws to tell the rest of us
> what to do.
As opposed to conservatives who can't seem to keep laws out of the
bedroom or off women's bodies.
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On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> I am sure that intel chips are designed here, not far from the Burlingame
> district of Portland where I live, but when I go to the local computer parts
> store and buy a chip, it says made in Mexico, Malaysia, etc.
Go out TV Highway near SW 209th. For
* dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020414 20:07]:
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 06:18:56PM -0500, Brian P.D. Smyth wrote:
> | (snip)
> | >
> |
> | Anyone have a reply to the original question?
> |
> | Has anyone successfully installed Debian on a Walmart OSless computer?
>
> I'd also like to know where s
On Sun Apr 14, 2002 at 04:33:43PM -0700, ben wrote:
> On Sunday 14 April 2002 04:18 pm, Brian P.D. Smyth wrote:
> > (snip)
> >
> >
> > Anyone have a reply to the original question?
> >
> > Has anyone successfully installed Debian on a Walmart OSless computer?
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Register
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 06:18:56PM -0500, Brian P.D. Smyth wrote:
| (snip)
| >
|
| Anyone have a reply to the original question?
|
| Has anyone successfully installed Debian on a Walmart OSless computer?
I'd also like to know where such a package can be found. The nearest
Wal-Mart here only h
begin Noah Sombrero quotation:
>
> I was waiting for somebody to say that. This is what happens when you
> have a democratic government. The majority tells the minority how things
> will be. Mostly we are willing to live with that, unless a conservative is
> the minority. Which it doesn't see
On Sunday 14 April 2002 04:18 pm, Brian P.D. Smyth wrote:
> (snip)
>
>
> Anyone have a reply to the original question?
>
> Has anyone successfully installed Debian on a Walmart OSless computer?
>
> Brian
>
> Registered Linux User #22
not personally, but there was an article in the uk
(snip)
>
Anyone have a reply to the original question?
Has anyone successfully installed Debian on a Walmart OSless computer?
Brian
Registered Linux User #22
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On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 14:35:01 -0700, you wrote:
>On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 03:01:34PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 10:54:09AM -0700, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>> > Conservatives would be funny, if they weren't so tragic.
>>
>> Thankfully we have liberals around to pass laws to
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 03:01:34PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 10:54:09AM -0700, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> > Conservatives would be funny, if they weren't so tragic.
>
> Thankfully we have liberals around to pass laws to tell the rest of us
> what to do.
"Conservatives" a
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 09:59:47AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
> begin Shawn McMahon quotation:
>
> > Meanwhile, a few less girl babies get drowned because their parents
> > can't feed them.
>
> As I understand it, Chinese families that drown their baby daughters do
> so because the Chinese gov
Shawn McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> begin Nathan E Norman quotation:
> >
> > Wal-Mart sells Chinese crap which is cheaper in price and quality than
> > goods produced elsewhere (like, here).
>
> And as a result, gives Chinese people employment that they otherwise
> might not have.
>
>
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 10:54:09AM -0700, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> Conservatives would be funny, if they weren't so tragic.
Thankfully we have liberals around to pass laws to tell the rest of us
what to do.
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Gil-galad was an Elven-king.
>Actually, all Intel chips are manufactured up the street from where I
>live. Most Intel engineers are Oregonian. As far as companies,
>especially tech companies, go, you just don't get more Oregonian than
>Intel.
I am sure that intel chips are designed here, not far from the Burlingame
distric
begin Shawn McMahon quotation:
> Meanwhile, a few less girl babies get drowned because their parents
> can't feed them.
As I understand it, Chinese families that drown their baby daughters do
so because the Chinese government limits them to one child, and a son is
considered more desireable in
begin Nathan E Norman quotation:
>
> Wal-Mart sells Chinese crap which is cheaper in price and quality than
> goods produced elsewhere (like, here).
And as a result, gives Chinese people employment that they otherwise
might not have.
Americans average $36,000 a year; Chinese average $4,000. Sp
On 14 Apr 2002, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Oh yeah? Then will does your Intel chip likely say it was assembled in
> Malaysia or Costa Rica? And how many of Intel's engineers are actually
> American?
Actually, all Intel chips are manufactured up the street from where I
live. Most Intel engineers are
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 07:49:38PM -0400, Shawn McMahon wrote:
> > begin Paul 'Baloo' Johnson quotation:
> > > > Does the system on which you're reading this have an Intel processor?
> > >
> > > No, but they're not the evil empire.
> >
> > At least
Where, in all this pabulum of replies, is the answer to the original
question???
On 13 Apr 2002 at 22:02, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> True to some extent but you are using dangerous words. "local economy"
> is crap since Intel export most of low
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> True to some extent but you are using dangerous words. "local economy"
> is crap since Intel export most of low value-added activities to the
> outside-US and hires border-less for skill. I bet their security guards
> are local but many seem to understand
> Plus you'll be giving a job to some teenager in a Maquiladora or some
> slave-laborer in China and be putting a big $2 / week in their pocket
> (the former only) with which to buy some beans for their family to
> eat.
I certainly won't pretend to know what a decent wage is in China, but
maybe $2
Hi,
In the age of political correctness, I have to comment ...
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 11:18:16PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> I must disagree with you drawing any parallel between Intel and
> Wal-Mart. It's worse than comparing apples and oranges ... at least
> those are both fruit.
>
> Int
Hi: Les Vadasz, Vice President of Intel, told Hollings, flat out that his
legislation was a disgrace, that it was impossible to accomplish what he
wants for Hollywood, unless he's willing to sacrifice Open Source technology
to the depths of criminal disgrace, unless he's willing to sacrifice a
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 07:49:38PM -0400, Shawn McMahon wrote:
> begin Paul 'Baloo' Johnson quotation:
> > > Does the system on which you're reading this have an Intel processor?
> >
> > No, but they're not the evil empire.
>
> At least as much as Wal-Mart is. And, like Wal-Mart, they have a
>
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Shawn McMahon wrote:
> At least as much as Wal-Mart is. And, like Wal-Mart, they have a
> quality product that a lot of people want. In my old home town in
> Oklahoma, they were the best grocery store in town, and the ONLY 24-hour
> place to buy computer equipment.
Sounds k
begin Paul 'Baloo' Johnson quotation:
> > Does the system on which you're reading this have an Intel processor?
>
> No, but they're not the evil empire.
At least as much as Wal-Mart is. And, like Wal-Mart, they have a
quality product that a lot of people want. In my old home town in
Oklahoma,
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Shawn McMahon wrote:
> Does the system on which you're reading this have an Intel processor?
No, but they're not the evil empire. On the contrary, Hillsboro's not
far removed from a company town, and the local paper's been reporting
Intel has finally had enough out of Califo
begin Craig Duncan quotation:
>
> Plus you'll be giving a job to some teenager in a Maquiladora or some
> slave-laborer in China and be putting a big $2 / week in their pocket
> (the former only) with which to buy some beans for their family to
> eat.
Deprive that Chinese worker of that $2 / wee
begin Paul 'Baloo' Johnson quotation:
>
> But then again, do you *really* want to buy a computer from the evil
> empire?
Does the system on which you're reading this have an Intel processor?
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Craig Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Plus you'll be giving a job to some teenager in a Maquiladora or some
> slave-laborer in China and be putting a big $2 / week in their pocket
> (the former only) with which to buy some beans for their family to
> eat.
Good point.
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Elizabeth Barham writes:
> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 08:11:38PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> >
> > > But then again, do you *really* want to buy a computer from the evil
> > > empire?
> >
> But there might be a warranty - if the hard di
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Bill Gates is selling computers now?
evil empire, not Evil Empire.
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Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 08:11:38PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
>
> > But then again, do you *really* want to buy a computer from the evil
> > empire?
>
> Bill Gates is selling computers now?
>
> Aside from those video game things?
>
> I bet the
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 08:11:38PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> But then again, do you *really* want to buy a computer from the evil
> empire?
Bill Gates is selling computers now?
Aside from those video game things?
I bet the tech support department at Wall Mart is really
top-notch!
;)
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 09:43:05PM -0400, alex wrote:
> Can anyone set us straight about these computers?
No, but I can set you straight on Walmart: screw them. Give your
dollars to some local small-business person to build the same thing
for you. Screw Walmart.
Virtually any town of a decent si
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, alex wrote:
> Does anyone have first hand knowledge about the MicroTech/Walmart computers
> that are
> sold without an installed operating system?
>
> There's a lot of guessing and opining about these computers but no one seems
> to know
> for sure about the quality and whet
Does anyone have first hand knowledge about the
MicroTech/Walmart computers that are
sold without an installed operating
system?
There's a lot of guessing and opining about these
computers but no one seems to know
for sure about the quality and whether or not
there's any problem with usi
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