Re: [Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-17 Thread Charlie S
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 04:44:45 +0100 Dominic Knight sent: > On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 08:41 +1000, Charlie S wrote: > > > > > > After contemplation, my reply is: > > I suppose they still have a > > twirling > > thingy on the monitor while the machine boots? > > > > Be well, > > Charlie > > >

Re: [Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-16 Thread Dominic Knight
On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 08:41 +1000, Charlie S wrote: > > > After contemplation, my reply is: > I suppose they still have a > twirling > thingy on the monitor while the machine boots? > > Be well, > Charlie > Sorry, there is no longer enough time for one of those to be drawn ;) systemd-an

Re: [Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-16 Thread Charlie S
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 20:19:15 +0100 Brian sent: > On Sat 16 Jun 2018 at 12:06:24 +0200, Siard wrote: > > > Now in some local list, I've heard someone maintain that starting X > > with startx is very old, untested, deprecated, certainly in a > > systemd environment. A display manager would control

Re: [Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 20:19:15 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sat 16 Jun 2018 at 12:06:24 +0200, Siard wrote: > > > Now in some local list, I've heard someone maintain that starting X > > with startx is very old, untested, deprecated, certainly in a > > systemd environment. A display manager would contro

Re: [Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Jun 2018 at 12:06:24 +0200, Siard wrote: > Now in some local list, I've heard someone maintain that starting X > with startx is very old, untested, deprecated, certainly in a systemd > environment. A display manager would control various things concerning > your login session in cooperat

Re: [Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-16 Thread Felix Miata
Siard composed on 2018-06-16 12:06 (UTC+0200): > Now in some local list, I've heard someone maintain that starting X > with startx is very old, untested, deprecated, certainly in a systemd > environment. A display manager would control various things concerning > your login session in cooperation

Re: [Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-16 Thread Siard
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:44 -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 6/14/18, Siard wrote: > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:40 +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > > > Siard wrote on 06/13/18 17:28: > > > > > > > > I took a try and upgraded the xserver-*** packages in testing to > > > > version 2:1.20.0 taken fr

Re: [Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-14 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Cindy-Sue Causey wrote on 06/14/18 17:44: > On 6/14/18, Siard wrote: >> On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:40 +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >>> Siard wrote on 06/13/18 17:28: I took a try and upgraded the xserver-*** packages in testing to version 2:1.20.0 taken from unstable. It did wo

Re: [Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-14 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 6/14/18, Siard wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:40 +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> Siard wrote on 06/13/18 17:28: >> > >> > I took a try and upgraded the xserver-*** packages in testing to >> > version 2:1.20.0 taken from unstable. >> > It did work; X (started with 'startx') is back, despite

Re: [Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-14 Thread Siard
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:40 +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Siard wrote on 06/13/18 17:28: > > > > I took a try and upgraded the xserver-*** packages in testing to > > version 2:1.20.0 taken from unstable. > > It did work; X (started with 'startx') is back, despite the systemd > > packages having

Re: [Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-14 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Siard wrote on 06/13/18 17:28: > I took a try and upgraded the xserver-*** packages in testing to version > 2:1.20.0 taken from unstable. > It did work; X (started with 'startx') is back, despite the systemd > packages having version 238. > It looks like things will be back to normal after the nex

[Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-13 Thread Siard
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Which version of the systemd packages (udev, libsystemd0, etc.) is > installed? 238-5. > On my testing/unstable systems X can be started using "startx" with > xorg-server version 2:1.20.0-2 but systemd packages in version 237. > systemd 238 is not working. I took a try

Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-13 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Which version of the systemd packages (udev, libsystemd0, etc.) is installed? On my testing/unstable systems X can be started using "startx" with xorg-server version 2:1.20.0-2 but systemd packages in version 237. systemd 238 is not working. Regards, jvp.

Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-12 Thread Siard
A couple of months ago, xserver-common, xserver-xorg-core and xserver-xorg-legacy were upgraded from version 1.19.2 to 1.19.6 in Buster. But since then, when starting X from the console, the process soon comes to a grinding halt. These are the last lines: (==) Log file: "/home//local/share/xorg/