Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-25 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 13:40, Wesley J Landaker wrote: > On Friday 08 August 2003 8:07 am, Joerg Johannes wrote: > > On Friday 08 August 2003 15:44, Aaron wrote: > > > On -1782-Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 04:31:21PM -0700, Alan Connor > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus, > > > > > > > > Got that right. De

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 01:08:51AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > I'd like to read this, if I could just figure out what the address is > _supposed_ to be . . .:-) Click the ENGLISH link... - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :

RE: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Jeremy Davis
: Friday, August 08, 2003 1:10 PM To: Debian-User Subject: RE: Helping the newbie Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 11:35:49 -0400 From: "Jeremy Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thanks to everyone that has answered my questions. My linux requirements are pretty minimal compared to that of d

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 09:23:59AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > Well, I thought it worked. I get to what seems to be a german site; the > only things I see in English are things like links to go to the WebAlias > Main Page and "blank.gif"s. Here is a direct link to the english version: http://www.

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Also sprach Kent West (Sat 09 Aug 02003 at 08:49:49AM -0500): > Paul Johnson wrote: > > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 07:44:22AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > > >>http://learn.to/quote > >> > >>It results in an Alert dialog box in Mozilla that says:

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Sunday 10 August 2003 8:21 am, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 09:35:35PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 08:49:49AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > > Looking up learn.to > > > learn.to > > > Unable to lo

RE: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Hershel Robinson
Said Greg Folkert: > Stable is NOT "stability of the system"... STABLE means few if any > changes to the DISTRO. Said : Andreas Janssen: > ... Sarge or Sid are usable for > desktop systems (at least many people use it, I use Woody with KDE 3), May I ask another newbie question? Are both of thes

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 11:35:49 -0400 "Jeremy Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > routers and 7 Slackware machines running radius, DNS, Apache/PHP/Perl. Some > people say the "testing" tree is alpha some say its stable as redhat, so > which is it? Keep in mind, I don't run X, I just run linux based se

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:51:04PM -0400, Jeremy Davis wrote: > I am in the process of learning the the subtle differences in debian > compared to my main linux distro, which is Slackware. So I believe that I > am going to move to debian because of apt and all that it implies :) But I > do have a

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 07:44:22AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > http://learn.to/quote > > > It results in an Alert dialog box in Mozilla that says: "www.learn.to > could not be found. Please check the name and try again." Right, because there is no ww

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 08:49:49AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > Looking up learn.to > learn.to > Unable to locate remote host learn.to. > Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. > > lynx: Can't access startfile http://learn.to/quote Something is eithe

Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Jeremy Davis
I am in the process of learning the the subtle differences in debian compared to my main linux distro, which is Slackware. So I believe that I am going to move to debian because of apt and all that it implies :) But I do have a question. Am I missing something in apt-get when updating the packag

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Friday 08 August 2003 8:07 am, Joerg Johannes wrote: > On Friday 08 August 2003 15:44, Aaron wrote: > > On -1782-Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 04:31:21PM -0700, Alan Connor > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus, > > > > > > Got that right. Debian is the Linux of Linux. > > > > > > Slackware is the UNIX of L

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 16:30:09 2003 > > > I can testify that once you move to Debian, you will not move away. > > A > > Got that right. Debian is the Linux of Linux. Slackware is the UNIX of Linux. Alan -- For Linux/Bash users: Eliminate spam with the Mailbox-Sentry-P

RE: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Petrisor Marian
-Original Message- From: Hershel Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Helping the newbie Said Greg Folkert: > Stable is NOT "stability of the system"... STABLE means few if any > changes to the

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Michael D. Schleif wrote: I take it that this address is working for everyone except me? Hmmm. I just ssh'd into another network, and it works there. How interesting. I'm on Cox Cable at home, and there it does not work. We

RE: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 03:51, Hershel Robinson wrote: > Said Greg Folkert: > > > Stable is NOT "stability of the system"... STABLE means few if any > > changes to the DISTRO. > > Said : Andreas Janssen: > > > ... Sarge or Sid are usable for > > desktop systems (at least many people use it, I use

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Aaron
On -1782-Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 04:31:21PM -0700, Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus, > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 16:30:09 2003 > > > > > > I can testify that once you move to Debian, you will not move away. > > > > A > > > > > > Got that right. Debian is the Linux of Linux.

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 03:51:27AM -0400, Hershel Robinson wrote: > Said Greg Folkert: > > > Stable is NOT "stability of the system"... STABLE means few if any > > changes to the DISTRO. > > Said : Andreas Janssen: > > > ... Sarge or Sid are usable

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Kent West
Michael D. Schleif wrote: Also sprach Kent West (Sat 09 Aug 02003 at 08:49:49AM -0500): Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 07:44:22AM -0500, Kent West wrote: http://learn.to/quote It results in an Alert dialog box in Mozilla

RE: Helping the newbie

2003-08-12 Thread Wendell Cochran
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 11:35:49 -0400 From: "Jeremy Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thanks to everyone that has answered my questions. My linux requirements are pretty minimal compared to that of desktop users. I pretty much just use apache, perl, php, exim, proftpd, mrtg, iptables for custom packetf

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-11 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003, Jeremy Davis wrote: > I think linux servers are less complicated than linux desktops. At least > they are to me. The only headaches I've had with linux were on the desktop. > The desktop needs more software that I "don't understand" if that makes any > sense. XFree86, then

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-10 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Michael D. Schleif wrote: I take it that this address is working for everyone except me? Hmmm. I just ssh'd into another network, and it works there. How interesting. I'm on Cox Cable at home, and there it does not work. Well, I thought it w

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-10 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 09:35:35PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 08:49:49AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > Looking up learn.to > > learn.to > > Unable to locate remote host learn.to. > > Alert!: Unable to connect to remote hos

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-10 Thread leroyljr
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:51:04PM -0400, Jeremy Davis wrote: > Are the debian packages not kept up-to-date? Let me try to put this in perspective for you: When you upgrade a commercial distro, you have to spend the next two weeks figuring out why everything stopped working (even though it was

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-09 Thread Kent West
Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 01:08:51AM -0500, Kent West wrote: I'd like to read this, if I could just figure out what the address is _supposed_ to be . . .:-) Click the ENGLISH link... Do you mean the hyperlink you put i

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-09 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Jeremy Davis (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I am in the process of learning the the subtle differences in debian > compared to my main linux distro, which is Slackware. So I believe > that I am going to move to debian because of apt and all that it > implies :) > But I do have a question.

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-09 Thread Kent West
Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 07:44:22AM -0500, Kent West wrote: http://learn.to/quote It results in an Alert dialog box in Mozilla that says: "www.learn.to could not be found. Please check the name and try again." Right, becaus

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Top posting considered harmful. http://learn.to/quote On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 03:16:35PM -0400, Jeremy Davis wrote: > I think linux servers are less complicated than linux desktops. At least > they are to me. The only headaches I've had with linux

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-08 Thread Kent West
Paul Johnson wrote: Top posting considered harmful. http://learn.to/quote I'd like to read this, if I could just figure out what the address is _supposed_ to be . . .:-) -- Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

RE: Helping the newbie

2003-08-08 Thread Jeremy Davis
ED] Subject: Re: Helping the newbie On Friday 08 August 2003 15:44, Aaron wrote: > On -1782-Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 04:31:21PM -0700, Alan Connor > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus, > > > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 16:30:09 2003 > > > > > > > >

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-08 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am I missing something in apt-get when updating the > packages. I noticed that perl 5.6 is kind of old as well as the apache > 1.3.26. Are the debian packages not kept up-to-date? No, they are, we just do something called testing, which seems to be

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-08 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 08:50:17AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > Then in /etc/apt/apt.conf > >APT::Default-Release "testing"; > or >APT::Default-Release "unstable"; Apt pinning is considered harmful if you're running stable. Just use the back

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-08 Thread Joerg Johannes
On Friday 08 August 2003 15:44, Aaron wrote: > On -1782-Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 04:31:21PM -0700, Alan Connor > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus, > > > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 16:30:09 2003 > > > > > > > > > I can testify that once you move to Debian, you will not move > > > away. > > > > >

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-07 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 17:51, Jeremy Davis wrote: > I am in the process of learning the the subtle differences in debian > compared to my main linux distro, which is Slackware. So I believe that I > am going to move to debian because of apt and all that it implies :) But I > do have a question. A