Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-30 Thread Mike McCarty
Alvin Oga wrote: hi ya mike On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Mike McCarty wrote: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hde bs=446 count=1 This works if /dev/hda is the exact same size and partitioning as /dev/hde. nah it leaves the br alone Umm, yes it leave the BRs alone. But the BRs don't

Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-30 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya mike On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Mike McCarty wrote: > > dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hde bs=446 count=1 > > This works if /dev/hda is the exact same size and partitioning > as /dev/hde. nah it leaves the br alone > system, or somebody? Otherwise, I'd fear possibly clobbering the >

gee-thanx Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-30 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya mike On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Mike McCarty wrote: > > trivial way to make it boot as /dev/hda: > > - assuming you are currently booting from /dev/hda to make the > > clone > > dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hde bs=446 count=1 > > I just checked, and with a floppy at least, it pres

Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-30 Thread Mike McCarty
Alvin Oga wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Matt Price wrote: non-identical, old disks which likely have bad sectors (so don't want to dd if=/dev/hde of=/dev/hdf or similar). good ... than use tar or cp or any other fs dependent copying so then, question is: how to run grub, preferably non

Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-30 Thread Mike McCarty
Alvin Oga wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Matt Price wrote: non-identical, old disks which likely have bad sectors (so don't want to dd if=/dev/hde of=/dev/hdf or similar). good ... than use tar or cp or any other fs dependent copying so then, question is: how to run grub, preferably non

Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-30 Thread Alvin Oga
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Matt Price wrote: > non-identical, old disks which likely have bad sectors (so don't want to > dd if=/dev/hde of=/dev/hdf or similar). good ... than use tar or cp or any other fs dependent copying > so then, question is: how to run grub, preferably non-interactively, >

Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-30 Thread Matt Price
ummm... well, you guys sureh ave been busy while I was away... I'm afraid Mike's right -- doubtless this wwas clearer to him than to alvin b/c he was helping me out in an earlier, similar thread. I am trying to duplicate these disks and make them bootable. Here's the situation: about 25 machin

Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-30 Thread Seeker5528
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:20:24 -0400 Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > following up on several earlier threads, including one of my own -- > > I'm trying desperately to install grub on an auxiliary hard drive > currently living on the 3rd IDE bus (/dev/hde). This is part of a

Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-29 Thread Mike McCarty
Alvin Oga wrote: hi ya mike - how about you let the orginal poster ask questions and/or present real problems he's facing ?? Umm, you do have the horse before the cart. You were the one who chose to respond to me rather than the OP. You asked the questions of me, rather than the OP. That is

Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-29 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya mike - how about you let the orginal poster ask questions and/or present real problems he's facing ?? - sme of your comments are contradcitory to those your stated earlier or later in within the context of just this emails - making clones of xxx into another disk is trivial or com

Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-29 Thread Mike McCarty
Alvin Oga wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Mike McCarty wrote: it'd be pointless to install the grub mbr on /dev/hde if it cannot boot Umm, no, what he's doing is perfectly reasonable. if doesn't work ... one should figure out technically why it will not work - some bios will NTO let

simplified -- Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-29 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya OP if you are doing your magic on /dev/hde and want to make it a bootable device as /dev/hda on another PC - let's assume you have /dev/hda ( hd0 ) and your clone /dev/hde ( hd1 ) - note and understand the grub terminology - also "cat /boot/grub/device.map"

Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-29 Thread Alvin Oga
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Mike McCarty wrote: > > it'd be pointless to install the grub mbr on /dev/hde if it cannot boot > > Umm, no, what he's doing is perfectly reasonable. if doesn't work ... one should figure out technically why it will not work - some bios will NTO let you boot from

Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-29 Thread Mike McCarty
Alvin Oga wrote: hiya matt On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Matt Price wrote: I'm trying desperately to install grub on an auxiliary hard drive currently living on the 3rd IDE bus (/dev/hde). do you know if your motherboard can boot from /dev/hde ?? - not all bios/mb supports booting from off-

Re: GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-29 Thread Alvin Oga
hiya matt On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Matt Price wrote: > I'm trying desperately to install grub on an auxiliary hard drive > currently living on the 3rd IDE bus (/dev/hde). do you know if your motherboard can boot from /dev/hde ?? - not all bios/mb supports booting from off-board controllers

GRUB woes (install to hde)

2005-09-28 Thread Matt Price
Hi folks, following up on several earlier threads, including one of my own -- I'm trying desperately to install grub on an auxiliary hard drive currently living on the 3rd IDE bus (/dev/hde). This is part of a scheme to do a mass debian install based on disk images... but for now, the important