On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:17 AM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> Tangentially to that, it seems that someone needs to pick up the dropped
> baton and update the pictures.
Those are all copies of a diagram by Claudio Filho, if anyone updates
it, please send him a pull request to update the offic
rhkramer:
Intentionally cross posted. Aside: For those on the debian-user lists,
the thread came from the debian-backports list, but my frustration
should probably be expressed more to the debian-user list (or
debian-developer list, assuming there is such a list (to which I am
not subscribed)
On 13/01/18 07:24 AM, bw wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, January 13, 2018 09:07:58 AM bw wrote:
>>
It is a good point, however have you considered the effect of a visual
association along with a word and a number?
For me, no--why should I go to that tr
On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 17:05:54 (+), Curt wrote:
> On 2018-01-13, David Wright wrote:
> > On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 05:14:37 (+0100), Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote:
> >> On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration
> >> over Debia
On 2018-01-13, David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 05:14:37 (+0100), Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote:
>> On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration over
>> Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)"
>>
On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 16:56:05 (+), Glenn English wrote:
> Has anyone in this thread mentioned DNS yet?
Quoting RFC 1178:
“There is always room for an exception.
“I don't think any explanation is needed here. However, let me
add that if you later decide to change a name (to someth
On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 21:29:34 (-0600), John Hasler wrote:
> rhkramer writes:
> > The Toy Story names have no inherent sequence to them, and fail to aid
> > in my (and I suspect several others) understanding.
>
> I dislike them as well and would also prefer numbers. I never saw the
> movie nor ha
Has anyone in this thread mentioned DNS yet?
--
Glenn English
On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 05:14:37 (+0100), Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote:
> On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration over
> Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)"
> > [...] People use names, computers like numbers.
&g
On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 16:49:34 (+1300), Richard Hector wrote:
> On 13/01/18 10:03, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 14:01:34 (+), Ian Campbell wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrot
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > Some people always seem to remain confused. Perhaps they have
> > the same confusion with timezones, for similar reasons.
>
> Both are confusing. One, Debian has the possibility to improve.
Yes, we could "improve". But for many of us that doesn't
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 03:03:25PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
Which reason? The formal name of a release is the Release number.
And yet our sources.list files all contain
deb stretch main
and not
deb 9 main
And I had to look up "9" in that wiki page to even make this point.
The page
On 13-01-2018, at 09h 07'58", bw wrote about "Re: Frustration over Debian
naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)"
> > On Friday, January 12, 2018 11:14:37 PM Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote:
> > > On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright w
On Saturday, January 13, 2018 09:07:58 AM bw wrote:
> It is a good point, however have you considered the effect of a visual
> association along with a word and a number? For instance, everytime I
> think of debian "stretch" i see a purple octopus. For "buster" I see a
> yapping little dachshund
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 12, 2018 11:14:37 PM Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote:
> > On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration
> > over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports
On Friday, January 12, 2018 11:14:37 PM Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote:
> On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration
> over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)"
>
> > [...] People use names, computers like num
On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration over
Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)"
> [...] People use names, computers like numbers.
>
I do not take sides here, but I can't accept this statement. Numbers
are
On 13/01/18 10:03, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 14:01:34 (+), Ian Campbell wrote:
>> On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
But the various names and use of those names gets very frustra
rhkramer writes:
> The Toy Story names have no inherent sequence to them, and fail to aid
> in my (and I suspect several others) understanding.
I dislike them as well and would also prefer numbers. I never saw the
movie nor had any interest in it so to me the names might as well have
been picked
On Friday, January 12, 2018 04:03:25 PM David Wright wrote:
> Another reason: it's a convention that organisations use
> because it works. It's less ambiguous to write jessie than 8
> especially in contexts where lots of numbers are being discussed,
> and it's more memorable to most people. People
On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 14:01:34 (+), Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > But the various names and use of those names gets very frustrating
> > > for me, and
> > > I suspect I
Ian Campbell [2018-01-12 14:01:34Z] wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history explains this
>> nicely and is linked from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian
>
> I took their point to be that if one needs a wiki page to
On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > But the various names and use of those names gets very frustrating
> > for me, and
> > I suspect I am not the only one. The numbered versions, the Toy
> > Story names,
On Friday, January 12, 2018 09:01:34 AM Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > But the various names and use of those names gets very frustrating
> > > for me, and
> > > I suspect I
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> But the various names and use of those names gets very frustrating for me,
> and
> I suspect I am not the only one. The numbered versions, the Toy Story names,
> and then the testing, stable, old stable, old old stable is jus
Intentionally cross posted.
On Friday, January 12, 2018 04:58:38 AM Richard Hector wrote:
> Apologies for my misunderstanding. I hadn't made the mental link from
> wheezy to LTS (I don't (think I) have any wheezy machines left myself,
> but have acquired clients who do).
Aside: For those on the d
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