On Tue 27 Sep 2016 at 12:05:37 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 04:52:34PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > You need a ~/.xsession file when you need a ~/.xsession file. Isn't it
> > one purpose of the wiki to explain how it fits into the traditional X
> > configuration and why one mig
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 04:52:34PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> You need a ~/.xsession file when you need a ~/.xsession file. Isn't it
> one purpose of the wiki to explain how it fits into the traditional X
> configuration and why one might be useful. Instead, we appear to have
> ~/.xsessionrc promoted as
On Tue 27 Sep 2016 at 10:29:44 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 03:15:54PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > Ok, let's go along with ~/.xsessionrc being the simplest way for a user
> > to configure his X session. I'll follow the advice on the wiki and have
> >
> > PATH=~/bin:$PATH
>
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 03:15:54PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> Ok, let's go along with ~/.xsessionrc being the simplest way for a user
> to configure his X session. I'll follow the advice on the wiki and have
>
> PATH=~/bin:$PATH
> xterm &
> iceweasel &
> exec fvwm
No, this is not what I advise
On Mon 26 Sep 2016 at 17:44:17 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 10:19:27PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > But now we have
> >
> > > User configuration may be done in a few different ways. The simplest
> > > way is to create a ~/.xsessionrc file,.
> >
> > The pedantic side of
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 05:58:59PM -0400, Neal P. Murphy wrote:
> A semantic observation (probably unrelated to the aforementioned editing):
> "... dot in ..." might be more clearly stated as "... source ( or '.') in
> ..." because the action is to source the script into the current shell (thus
> r
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 10:46:07PM -0700, Seeker wrote:
> It's possible that something changed with gdm3 after I stopped using it,
> or that it's been long enough I just don't remember, but I don't
> remember any of these in recent years using the .xsession file if you
> use a session other than
On 9/26/2016 2:44 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 10:19:27PM +0100, Brian wrote:
But now we have
> User configuration may be done in a few different ways. The simplest
> way is to create a ~/.xsessionrc file,.
The pedantic side of me asks - why is it the simplest way? An
On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 22:19:27 +0100
Brian wrote:
> On Sun 25 Sep 2016 at 18:55:03 +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> > The existence of ~/.xessionrc appears to cause more problems than it
> > purportedly solves.
>
> And it still won't lie down and die. It is determined to take over the
> traditional role o
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 10:19:27PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> But now we have
>
> > User configuration may be done in a few different ways. The simplest
> > way is to create a ~/.xsessionrc file,.
>
> The pedantic side of me asks - why is it the simplest way? And in what
> cirumstances?
Because
On Sun 25 Sep 2016 at 18:55:03 +0100, Brian wrote:
> The existence of ~/.xessionrc appears to cause more problems than it
> purportedly solves.
And it still won't lie down and die. It is determined to take over the
traditional role of ~/.xsession and prove its worth. However, kudos for
the editin
On Sat 24 Sep 2016 at 20:38:50 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 23 Sep 2016 at 17:36:11 +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> I don't think I shall be pointing a user to this wiki page in its
> present state.
~/.xessionrc as the primary file for configuring startup of X is not
only not necessary but has a disadva
On Fri 23 Sep 2016 at 17:36:11 +0100, Brian wrote:
> ~/.xsessionrc was introduced in 2007 in response to a perceived problem.
> If the choice of DE (or WM) and terminal is left in the care of the
> system's x-session-manager, x-window-manager and x-terminal-emulator
> nothing need be put in ~/.xse
On 9/23/2016 10:28 AM, Brian wrote:
On Fri 23 Sep 2016 at 10:07:43 -0700, Seeker wrote:
On 9/22/2016 6:18 PM, Seeker wrote:
In spite of the existence of 60xprofile and the fact that '~/.xprofile' did
get sourced in the ast, I'm not finding any information on when you
might expect xprofile
On Fri 23 Sep 2016 at 10:07:43 -0700, Seeker wrote:
> On 9/22/2016 6:18 PM, Seeker wrote:
> >On 9/22/2016 10:45 AM, Brian wrote:
> >>On Thu 22 Sep 2016 at 12:10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 09:00:11AM -0700, Seeker wrote:
> A little late, but personally I wo
On 9/22/2016 6:18 PM, Seeker wrote:
On 9/22/2016 10:45 AM, Brian wrote:
On Thu 22 Sep 2016 at 12:10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 09:00:11AM -0700, Seeker wrote:
A little late, but personally I would have tried using '~/.xprofile'
first.
I believe the information abo
On Thu 22 Sep 2016 at 16:19:26 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> I've edited https://wiki.debian.org/LightDM and written
> https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession from scratch. I hope this helps other
> people who were as lost and confused as I was.
>
> If you're still wondering what kind of documentation
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On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:31:20AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> > It makes a big difference for remote applications, since they will see the
> > .Xresources from the server but the .Xdefaults from the client.
Forgot to say that typically
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On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 08:57:18AM +, Curt wrote:
[...]
> Nicolas Georges gave some interesting information once when I said that
> .Xdefaults was "deprecated" concerning what is read by what where and
> why (went over my head, of course).
>
> H
On 2016-09-22, Dominic Knight wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 16:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> I've edited https://wiki.debian.org/LightDM and written
>> https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession from scratch. I hope this helps
>> other
>> people who were as lost and confused as I was.
>>
>> If you're
On 9/22/2016 10:45 AM, Brian wrote:
On Thu 22 Sep 2016 at 12:10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 09:00:11AM -0700, Seeker wrote:
A little late, but personally I would have tried using '~/.xprofile'
first.
I believe the information about this from the Arch Wiki applies eq
On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 16:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> I've edited https://wiki.debian.org/LightDM and written
> https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession from scratch. I hope this helps
> other
> people who were as lost and confused as I was.
>
> If you're still wondering what kind of documentation I
I've edited https://wiki.debian.org/LightDM and written
https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession from scratch. I hope this helps other
people who were as lost and confused as I was.
If you're still wondering what kind of documentation I was looking for,
you may use https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession as the
On Thu 22 Sep 2016 at 09:11:53 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:19:11PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > But I don't understand the concept of "user configuration" for a DM.
> > Wouldn't that be like a user configuring /etc/issue, the login prompt
> > or /etc/motd ?
>
> By u
On Thu 22 Sep 2016 at 09:11:53 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:19:11PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
>
> > I'm not a DE or DM user, so I'm know very little about them.
>
> Yes, THIS is the problem! You, and I, and everyone else on the guru side
> are just completely stumpe
On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 10:56 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 03:15:40PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > I edit ~/.xsessionrc to have a single line:
> >
> > . /home/tixy/.profile
>
> [...] how did you learn about it?
Reading the debian-user list for many years :-)
--
Tixy
On Thu 22 Sep 2016 at 12:10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 09:00:11AM -0700, Seeker wrote:
> > A little late, but personally I would have tried using '~/.xprofile'
> > first.
> >
> > I believe the information about this from the Arch Wiki applies equally
> > to Debian.
>
On Thu 22 Sep 2016 at 16:10:01 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:56:49AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 03:15:40PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> >>I edit ~/.xsessionrc to have a single line:
> >>
> >>. /home/tixy/.profile
> >
> >Which program reads ~/.x
On 9/21/2016 12:07 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
On 09/21/2016 11:05 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
it seems that I am using lightdm.
I know of absolutely no documentation for configuring lightdm as a
user. I suspect that the software *has
On 09/22/2016 09:59 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 02:50:30PM +0100, Brian wrote:
To read the manual
apt-get download lightdm
works every time.
Hmm, well.
$ cd /tmp
$ apt-get download lightdm
$ ls, man dpkg, ...
$ dpkg -x lightdm_1.10.3-3_amd64.deb ldm
$ gzip -dc ldm/usr
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 09:00:11AM -0700, Seeker wrote:
> A little late, but personally I would have tried using '~/.xprofile'
> first.
>
> I believe the information about this from the Arch Wiki applies equally
> to Debian.
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xprofile
wooledg@wooledg:~$ gr
On 9/22/2016 8:25 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
On 09/22/2016 10:15 AM, Tixy wrote:
On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 09:11 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:19:11PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
But I don't understand the concept of "user configuration" for a DM.
Wouldn't that be like a user
On Thu 22 Sep 2016 at 10:56:49 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 03:15:40PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > I edit ~/.xsessionrc to have a single line:
> >
> > . /home/tixy/.profile
>
> Which program reads ~/.xsessionrc
X.
> and how did you
On 09/22/2016 10:15 AM, Tixy wrote:
On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 09:11 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:19:11PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
But I don't understand the concept of "user configuration" for a DM.
Wouldn't that be like a user configuring /etc/issue, the login
prompt
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:56:49AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 03:15:40PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
I edit ~/.xsessionrc to have a single line:
. /home/tixy/.profile
Which program reads ~/.xsessionrc and how did you learn about it?
Which man page describes it? Does i
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 03:15:40PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> I edit ~/.xsessionrc to have a single line:
>
> . /home/tixy/.profile
Which program reads ~/.xsessionrc and how did you learn about it?
Which man page describes it? Does its existence merely "add on" to some
system-wide default scri
On Thu 22 Sep 2016 at 09:59:07 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 02:50:30PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > To read the manual
> >
> > apt-get download lightdm
> >
> > works every time.
>
> Hmm, well.
Worked, didn't it? A two second operation.
> $ cd /tmp
> $ apt-get download li
On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 09:11 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:19:11PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > But I don't understand the concept of "user configuration" for a DM.
> > Wouldn't that be like a user configuring /etc/issue, the login
> prompt
> > or /etc/motd ?
>
> By use
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 02:50:30PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> To read the manual
>
> apt-get download lightdm
>
> works every time.
Hmm, well.
$ cd /tmp
$ apt-get download lightdm
$ ls, man dpkg, ...
$ dpkg -x lightdm_1.10.3-3_amd64.deb ldm
$ gzip -dc ldm/usr/share/man/man1/lightdm.1.gz | nroff -m
On Thu 22 Sep 2016 at 09:11:53 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Don't believe me? I know none of us has lightdm installed, so here is
> a man page, allegedly from Debian wheezy:
>
> http://www.unix.com/man-page/debian/1/lightdm/
>
> It takes several tries for me even to find *that*, probably becau
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On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 09:11:53AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
[...]
> Don't believe me? I know none of us has lightdm installed, so here is
> a man page, allegedly from Debian wheezy:
>
> http://www.unix.com/man-page/debian/1/lightdm/
>
> It take
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:19:11PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> But I don't understand the concept of "user configuration" for a DM.
> Wouldn't that be like a user configuring /etc/issue, the login prompt
> or /etc/motd ?
By user configuration, I mean "which files can the user edit, without
superu
On Wed 21 Sep 2016 at 15:07:09 (-0400), Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> On 09/21/2016 11:05 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> >>it seems that I am using lightdm.
> >
> >I know of absolutely no documentation for configuring lightdm as a
> >user. I
On 09/21/2016 11:05 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
it seems that I am using lightdm.
I know of absolutely no documentation for configuring lightdm as a
user. I suspect that the software *has* no user configuration at all,
because every s
On 09/21/2016 11:20 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Anthony Baldwin wrote:
giving the full path in the rc.xml doesn't seem to make
any difference.
Are you sure openbox is aware of the change ?
(Did you restart it ? Does it react immediately on newly added
key combinations ?)
Normally, yes, O
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 05:20:31PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> You could put a script into /usr/bin (where it will be found, i hope),
> let it print the PATH to a file, bind it to a key combination, and
> look what it writes into the file:
> #!/bin/sh
> echo "$PATH" >/tmp/my_openbox_test_for
Hi,
Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> giving the full path in the rc.xml doesn't seem to make
> any difference.
Are you sure openbox is aware of the change ?
(Did you restart it ? Does it react immediately on newly added
key combinations ?)
> Yes, the $PATH is set in my .bashrc...
> Wait.. Is this why
Sorry that you're getting this twice again, Thomas,
but I keep flummoxing the list-reply function (old age + brain tumor).
Tony
On 09/21/2016 09:54 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Tony Baldwin wrote:
.config/openbox/rc.xml
bid
Well, a short while ago with cron it helped to tell the c
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> it seems that I am using lightdm.
I know of absolutely no documentation for configuring lightdm as a
user. I suspect that the software *has* no user configuration at all,
because every search I've ever done has come up with nothing.
? Which one?
it seems that I am using lightdm.
when I press W-b, and some others I get this:
Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory)
And you believe it's because of a PATH mismatch. OK. I don't have
experience with whichever desktop or window manager this is.
T
and some others I get this:
> Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory)
And you believe it's because of a PATH mismatch. OK. I don't have
experience with whichever desktop or window manager this is.
> But the script IS in ~/bin/
> $ which bid
> /home/tony/
, and some others I get this:
Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory)
But the script IS in ~/bin/
$ which bid
/home/tony/bin/bid
and that dir IS in my $PATH:
$ echo $PATH
/home/tony/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
and it IS executable:
$ ls -la bin/ |
Hi,
Tony Baldwin wrote:
> .config/openbox/rc.xml
> bid
Well, a short while ago with cron it helped to tell the clueless
software where the script is by an absolute path.
Probably:
/home/tony/bin/bid
> Shortuts for stuff in /bin/ or /usr/bin/ [...] seem to work fine
What user st
edove, Ctrl N to compose a new
message, then W-b/Ctrl-v to copy and paste my bid template),
These things used to work perfectly in Wheezy, and even in a previous
Jessie installation, but working in a new Jessie installation,
when I press W-b, and some others I get this:
Failed to execute child pr
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