om: Gibson, Jodie MRS [mailto:jodie.gib...@defence.gov.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 10:57
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: RE: Emails [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
UNCLASSIFIED
Lee,
I haven't replied before this because it was the weekend, I wasn't at
work (therefore had no acce
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From: lee [mailto:l...@yun.yagibdah.de]
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 23:41
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Emails [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 01:43:44AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> What part of "not under human control" don't you understand
lee wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:31:51AM -0500, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
>
> > * The Debian user community has a high population of jerks, don't
> > ask them for help.
>
> > Yes, typical disclaimers are nonsensical on public lists. BUT, taking
> > the poster to task so aggressively an
On Sun,26.Jul.09, 14:24:10, lee wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:20:18AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Sat,25.Jul.09, 15:13:01, lee wrote:
> > >
> > > It is entirely inappropriate to post the disclaimer on the list.
> >
> > There is nothing in the CoC about such disclaimers.
>
> That do
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:31:45AM +0200, Hans Vogelsberger wrote:
> lee wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 08:22:31PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
>>> lee writes:
Why are you trying so much to justify inappropriate disclaimers?
>>> Why do you care? It doesn't mean anything: it's just silly.
>>
>
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:20:18AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat,25.Jul.09, 15:13:01, lee wrote:
> >
> > It is entirely inappropriate to post the disclaimer on the list.
>
> There is nothing in the CoC about such disclaimers.
That doesn't mean it's not inappropriate.
> > also entirely i
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 25 July 2009 16:31:51 Michael Ekstrand wrote:
>> Yes, typical disclaimers are nonsensical on public lists. BUT, taking
>> the poster to task so aggressively and for so long when it is likely
>> entirely outside his or her control is entirely inappropriate. Talk
>>
lee wrote:
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 08:22:31PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
lee writes:
Why are you trying so much to justify inappropriate disclaimers?
Why do you care? It doesn't mean anything: it's just silly.
You mean the disclaimer or defending it?
Both, and the whole thread too - silly,
2009/7/24 Gibson, Jodie MRS :
> UNCLASSIFIED
>
> Do you have a dedicated 'group' page (similar to yahoo groups) where people
> can post/read messages, or is it done totally through an e-mail list? IF
> through email, is there a 'daily digest' option where I can receive only one
> email a day (conta
On Sat,25.Jul.09, 15:13:01, lee wrote:
>
> It is entirely inappropriate to post the disclaimer on the list.
There is nothing in the CoC about such disclaimers.
> It is
> also entirely inappropriate for the poster not to say anythin
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 08:22:31PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> lee writes:
> > Why are you trying so much to justify inappropriate disclaimers?
>
> Why do you care? It doesn't mean anything: it's just silly.
You mean the disclaimer or defending it?
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lee writes:
> Why are you trying so much to justify inappropriate disclaimers?
Why do you care? It doesn't mean anything: it's just silly.
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:06:33PM -0600, Matthew Moore wrote:
> If this is at his place of work, he is probably just as able to
> change it as you are able to change the debian unsubscribe
> signature.
And?
He/she can always talk to whoever has control over the signature
and/or give a statement
On Saturday 25 July 2009 16:31:51 Michael Ekstrand wrote:
> Yes, typical disclaimers are nonsensical on public lists. BUT, taking
> the poster to task so aggressively and for so long when it is likely
> entirely outside his or her control is entirely inappropriate. Talk
> about shooting the messe
On Saturday July 25 2009 3:14:38 pm lee wrote:
> > Are you purposely being dense, or just trolling?
>
> What do you mean? Putting a disclaimer into a mail *is* under human
> control. If it's not, what then?
>
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:56:50PM -0600, Matthew Moore wrote:
> On Saturday July 25 2009 7:41:23 am lee wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 01:43:44AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > What part of "not under human control" don't you understand??
> >
> > You mean a machine has made these posts? M
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:31:51AM -0500, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
> * The Debian user community has a high population of jerks, don't
> ask them for help.
> Yes, typical disclaimers are nonsensical on public lists. BUT, taking
> the poster to task so aggressively and for so long when it is like
On Saturday July 25 2009 7:41:23 am lee wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 01:43:44AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > What part of "not under human control" don't you understand??
>
> You mean a machine has made these posts? Maybe --- that might explain
> why there aren't any answers from the OP --
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 2009-07-24 17:01, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
>>
>>> I'd suggest one of the dozen free e-mail services around.
>>>
>> You've never worked in a security-conscious bureaucracy, have you?
>>
>
> Not really, but I can nevertheless imagi
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 01:43:44AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> What part of "not under human control" don't you understand??
You mean a machine has made these posts? Maybe --- that might explain
why there aren't any answers from the OP --- but machines are usually
under human control. If they
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-07-24 17:01, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
>
>> I'd suggest one of the dozen free e-mail services around.
>>
>
> You've never worked in a security-conscious bureaucracy, have you?
>
Not really, but I can nevertheless imagine that even a
not-so-security-conscio
On 2009-07-24 17:01, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
Robert Holtzman wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, lee wrote:
I don't care if he or she has a choice. That's her or his problem, not
mine.
And just what would you suggest he do about it? Not post? Change jobs?
Commit suicide?
I'd suggest o
On 2009-07-24 18:26, lee wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 02:58:45PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, lee wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:14:00AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
Why do you assume he has a choice? Many organisations insert this for
all outgoing mail.
I don't c
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 02:58:45PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, lee wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:14:00AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>>
>>> Why do you assume he has a choice? Many organisations insert this for
>>> all outgoing mail.
>>
>> I don't care if he or she
Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, lee wrote:
>
>> I don't care if he or she has a choice. That's her or his problem, not
>> mine.
>>
>
> And just what would you suggest he do about it? Not post? Change jobs?
> Commit suicide?
>
I'd suggest one of the dozen free e-mail servi
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, lee wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:14:00AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
Why do you assume he has a choice? Many organisations insert this for
all outgoing mail.
I don't care if he or she has a choice. That's her or his problem, not
mine.
And just what would you sugg
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:14:00AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> Why do you assume he has a choice? Many organisations insert this for
> all outgoing mail.
I don't care if he or she has a choice. That's her or his problem, not
mine.
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On Sex, 24 Jul 2009, Harry Rickards wrote:
lee wrote:
You should really remove this part rather than continue to post it
here. It's ridiculous, impertinent and not at all important.
As other's have said, sometime's you're either not allowed, or can't
(it's added on by the MTA (or is it MDA?)).
Harry Rickards wrote:
You could also try gmane (IMHO the interface is better).
+1 there. It's extremely easy to configure icedove/thunderbird to access
the list there. news.gmane.org or snews.gmane.org for ssl.
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On 2009-07-24 03:46, Harry Rickards wrote:
As other's have said, sometime's you're either not allowed, or can't
(it's added on by the MTA (or is it MDA?)).
Either the MTA or automatically by the client.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_delivery_agent
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Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Fri,24.Jul.09, 12:25:02, Gibson, Jodie MRS wrote:
>> Do you have a dedicated 'group' page (similar to yahoo groups) where
>> people can post/read messages, or is it done totally through an e-mail
>
> You could try out google
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lee wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:25:02PM +1000, Gibson, Jodie MRS wrote:
>> UNCLASSIFIED
>
> ??
>
I'm no expert, but it looks to me as though that's something added on by
the Australian DoD regarding the security level of the email. See
http:/
On Fri,24.Jul.09, 12:25:02, Gibson, Jodie MRS wrote:
>
> Do you have a dedicated 'group' page (similar to yahoo groups) where
> people can post/read messages, or is it done totally through an e-mail
You could try out googlegroups. This mailing list is available there
(linux.debian.user) and you
On Fri,24.Jul.09, 00:30:39, lee wrote:
>
> > IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence
> > Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the
> > Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are
> > requested to contact the sender and
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:25:02PM +1000, Gibson, Jodie MRS wrote:
> UNCLASSIFIED
??
> Do you have a dedicated 'group' page (similar to yahoo groups) where
> people can post/read messages, or is it done totally through an e-mail
> list?
Debian-user is a mailing list. I don't know what a "group p
On 2009-07-23 23:24, Kevin Ross wrote:
Do you have a dedicated 'group' page (similar to yahoo groups)
where people can post/read messages, or is it done totally through
an e-mail list? IF through email, is there a 'daily digest' option
where I can receive only one email a day (containing all the
> Do you have a dedicated 'group' page (similar to yahoo groups)
> where people can post/read messages, or is it done totally through
> an e-mail list? IF through email, is there a 'daily digest' option
> where I can receive only one email a day (containing all the day's
> posts)? Or do I have to u
UNCLASSIFIED
Do you have a dedicated 'group' page (similar to yahoo groups) where
people can post/read messages, or is it done totally through an e-mail
list? IF through email, is there a 'daily digest' option where I can
receive only one email a day (containing all the day's posts)? Or do I
have
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