Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Bannister wrote: > Curt wrote: > > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > >> A proactive admin should be aware of these things and schedule > > >> appropriate preventative maintenance. > > > > > > May I suggest Qualitative Maintenance as a better strategy. > > > > > > http://asset

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 08:48:26AM +, Curt wrote: > On 2014-06-25, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:52:46PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > >> > >> A proactive admin should be aware of these things and schedule > >> appropriate preventative maintenance. > > > > May I suggest Q

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-25 Thread Curt
On 2014-06-25, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:52:46PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: >> >> A proactive admin should be aware of these things and schedule >> appropriate preventative maintenance. > > May I suggest Qualitative Maintenance as a better strategy. > > http://assetinsight

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:52:46PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > > A proactive admin should be aware of these things and schedule > appropriate preventative maintenance. May I suggest Qualitative Maintenance as a better strategy. http://assetinsights.net/Glossary/G_Qualitative_Maintenance.html (as

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-23 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 23:52:46 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > $ man fsck.ext4 Ok, my bad 'cos I didn't re-read this for a long time, time where -a was different from -p. So, as fixes are those that won't need user's touch, I agree to your argument :) -- BOFH excuse #345: Having to manually track t

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-22 Thread Bob Proulx
B wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > Erasing error output just doesn't erase the cause, > > > and the cause might be very dangerous to the system's > > > health... > > > > Erasing the error output? Why are you erasing error output? I > > never suggested any such thing. > > So you're following

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-20 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 23:55:11 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > > Erasing error output just doesn't erase the cause, > > and the cause might be very dangerous to the system's > > health… > > Erasing the error output? Why are you erasing error output? I > never suggested any such thing. So you're follo

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Martin Richard wrote: > >> In fact fsck or the mount operation before fsck stalls (usually because of > >> xfs), so I never get to the recovery shell. > > > > xfs? The X Font Server? How is xfs involved? I am sure it is really > > something else. > > More li

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-20 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Martin Richard wrote: >> >> In fact fsck or the mount operation before fsck stalls (usually because of >> xfs), so I never get to the recovery shell. > > xfs? The X Font Server? How is xfs involved? I am sure it is really > something else. M

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-20 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:48:49PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Martin Richard wrote: > > In fact fsck or the mount operation before fsck stalls (usually because of > > xfs), so I never get to the recovery shell. > > xfs? The X Font Server? How is xfs involved? I am sure it is really > something

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-19 Thread Bob Proulx
B wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > What practical alternative suggestion do you have in response? > > First, try to understand why fsck has failed; is it > "just a small error"?, may be due to a power failure, > or is it a big failure? may be due to the HD falling > apart. > What exactly failed,

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Martin Richard wrote: > In fact fsck or the mount operation before fsck stalls (usually because of > xfs), so I never get to the recovery shell. xfs? The X Font Server? How is xfs involved? I am sure it is really something else. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-18 Thread Martin Richard
2014-06-17 10:22 GMT+02:00 Martin Richard : > > I'll explore the ssh solution, see if starting a daemon in the initramfs > can give me what I want. > A quick follow-up: Starting an ssh daemon in initramfs was complicated, in particular, once the real root filesystem is set, the connection become

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-17 Thread Martin Richard
2014-06-16 18:21 GMT+02:00 B : > On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 17:54:13 +0200 > Martin Richard wrote: > > I don't know if that is possible, but you can setup an > early SSH access. > That's what I read most of the time, but I don't understand why ssh would be able to do what I want and not getty. 201

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-16 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 14:34:58 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > What practical alternative suggestion do you have in response? First, try to understand why fsck has failed; is it "just a small error"?, may be due to a power failure, or is it a big failure? may be due to the HD falling apart. What exactly

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-16 Thread Bob Proulx
B wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > That will automatically run "fsck -y" at boot time. See the > > This is terribly dangerous and might rid all possibilities to > recover sensitive data. What practical alternative suggestion do you have in response? Please don't just say don't do it out of FU

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-16 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 13:09:02 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > That will automatically run "fsck -y" at boot time. See the This is terribly dangerous and might rid all possibilities to recover sensitive data. -- Phil: Infect a computer running Vista with a virus is like raping a hooker... sig

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Martin Richard wrote: > I would like to configure an access to a console during runlevel 1.The idea > is that sometimes, checkfs (performed at runlevel 1) may hang, and I'd like > to have access to a terminal to confirm. If the system needs to run an fsck and if the fsck fails I have always had it

Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-16 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 17:54:13 +0200 Martin Richard wrote: > I would like to configure an access to a console during runlevel > 1.The idea is that sometimes, checkfs (performed at runlevel 1) > may hang, and I'd like to have access to a terminal to confirm. I don't know if that is possible, but yo

Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-16 Thread Martin Richard
Hi, I would like to configure an access to a console during runlevel 1.The idea is that sometimes, checkfs (performed at runlevel 1) may hang, and I'd like to have access to a terminal to confirm. I tried to start getty on a tty as soon as possible in inittab but it does not work as expected. in